| Archives Gonzales "Scandal" Thoroughly Debunked; Originally Posted by Billo_Really
Well then, I guess I'll step up...
After several attempts at getting that stupid video ... |
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Originally Posted by Billo_Really Well then, I guess I'll step up...
After several attempts at getting that stupid video to play all the way through, I was able to discern it is the same old stupid arguement, "blah, blah, blah..........what about Clinton?"
Hannity starts off by saying liberals are saying the DA's were laid off because of political reason's but there was little evidence of that. When in fact, there is evidence of that. The very first example was how the Administration changed the reason for the layoff's after being taken to task for them. Why would they change their reasons', if the reason's were on the up and up? As I recall, they first said they were layed off due to performance issues. However, they never listed what those performance issues were. And Hannity didn't either! He echoed the Administrations "performance" rap, but never gave the evidence that proved it. The rest of the video was about Clinton. | Yeah what possible relevance could there be to pointing out that every president since Ike has hired and fired political appointees for political reasons? Or that Clinton fired 93, or that he fired prosecutors who were investigating his crimes in Arkansas and replaced them with cronies...without anyone blinking an eye?
And I don't know what video you watched but Hannity clearly acknowledges in it that the Administration simply had someone else they wanted in some of those posts (which there is nothing wrong with-that's the nature of political appointments).
Political appointees are hired and fired at the SOLE DISCRETION of the president. He needs no explanations or reasons. There was nothing even remotely controversial or abnormal about this.
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09-04-07, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by niftydrifty I would agree to "true debate" you on this "subject." psst, transcript of the video is available on lexis nexis. Hannity's comparison of Clinton's firings near the beginning of his term, with Bush's, near the end, is just the tip of the iceberg regarding his spin. | Didn't you once call me a liar for capitalizing the first letter of your name?
Sorry, I think I'll wait for someone from planet Earth to get into a True Debate with, thank you. |
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09-04-07, 08:05 PM
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Current Mood: | Re: Gonzales "Scandal" Thoroughly Debunked There really is no scandal here. US Attourneys serve at the pleasure of the president. Dismissing them is not a crime. If you have a problem with the law, change the law. Sure, it wasn't a great PR move, and it was probably just a partisan political charade, but it really has no relevence as to why they were let go. It does make one wonder why he resigned though.
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09-04-07, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by aquapub Didn't you once call me a liar for capitalizing the first letter of your name? | nope, never did. how very Hannity-ish of you. I pointed out that you can't look at a screen and repeat to anyone else what is obviously there. it was evidence that you can't reproduce what you see. and likewise, you've just misrepresented what happened. it's no wonder you go on and on and on about how losers are somehow winners, and vice-versa. Quote: |
Originally Posted by aquapub Sorry, I think I'll wait for someone from planet Earth to get into a True Debate with, thank you. | translation: "I'm scared ****less of being made a fool of. I'd much rather continue to parrot wingnuts and use emoticons in place of arguments."
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09-09-07, 03:56 AM
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Yeah what possible relevance could there be to pointing out that every president since Ike has hired and fired political appointees for political reasons? Or that Clinton fired 93, or that he fired prosecutors who were investigating his crimes in Arkansas and replaced them with cronies...without anyone blinking an eye?
And I don't know what video you watched but Hannity clearly acknowledges in it that the Administration simply had someone else they wanted in some of those posts (which there is nothing wrong with-that's the nature of political appointments).
Political appointees are hired and fired at the SOLE DISCRETION of the president. He needs no explanations or reasons. There was nothing even remotely controversial or abnormal about this.
| Except that they lied about why they did it.
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Originally Posted by niftydrifty nope, never did. how very Hannity-ish of you. I pointed out that you can't look at a screen and repeat to anyone else what is obviously there. | Actually what you did is baselessy claim that I cannot reproduce what I see...with zero examples or evidence...and then accuse me of being a liar for it-exactly like I said you did, and yes, correctly stating the facts is very "Hannity-ish."
Here's what you said (Immigration Race Quotas, post 83): Quote:
Originally Posted by niftydrifty as a user of lexis nexis, I can speak on behalf of aquapub. his ability to quote information from non-linkable sources is similar to his ability to spell my name correctly, it's "niftydrifty." not "Nifty Drifty." I mean, seriously, my name is right there. and he sees something different. doesn't that tell you something?
aquapub is about as honest as a two-headed nickel. I would trust him only about as far as I could throw him.
translation: "I'm scared ****less of being made a fool of. I'd much rather continue to parrot wingnuts and use emoticons in place of arguments." |
Like I said, sorry, I think I'll wait for someone from planet Earth to get into a True Debate with, thank you. And you can sace your little 5th-grade taunting for someone insecure enough to be manipulated by such drivel. |
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Originally Posted by Billo_Really Except that they lied about why they did it. | There was conflicting testimony about a question that should never have been asked. |
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09-09-07, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by aquapub Actually what you did is baselessy claim that I cannot reproduce what I see...with zero examples or evidence...and then accuse me of being a liar for it-exactly like I said you did, and yes, correctly stating the facts is very "Hannity-ish."
Like I said, sorry, I think I'll wait for someone from planet Earth to get into a True Debate with, thank you. And you can sace your little 5th-grade taunting for someone insecure enough to be manipulated by such drivel. | LOL. you say "with zero examples or evidence." then you go right on to quote the example I gave!
uh .... DUH!
I didn't call you a liar. you're not a liar, because a liar intentionally deceives. you can't be a liar, if you have no idea about what the hell you're talking about. you can't intentionally deceive if your deception is inherent.
you lack the ability to look at information and reproduce it, just as i demonstrated. you don't know what a liar is. and you're obviously reluctant to enter into a true debate. why? because you're a worthless dumbass whom couldn't debate his way out of a wet paper bag. |
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Originally Posted by niftydrifty LOL. you say "with zero examples or evidence." then you go right on to quote the example I gave!
uh .... DUH! | Duh is right. Your claim was that I cannot reproduce what I see in debate. You provided zero examples or evidence. Then you ridiculously claimed that me capitalizing the first letter of my name was a demonstration of this inability. This is not an example of me not being able to reproduce what I see. It's an indication that I capitalize proper nouns.
This idiocy is exactly why I have zero interest wasting time on a True Debate with you...well that and the bipolar PMS trip you also went on later in this post. Quote:
Originally Posted by niftydrifty I didn't call you a liar. | Your exact words: " aquapub is about as honest as a two-headed nickel. I would trust him only about as far as I could throw him."
(Immigration Race Quotas, post 83)
Yes, you called me a liar, and now you are backpeddling. Quote:
Originally Posted by niftydrifty you're not a liar, because a liar intentionally deceives. | And now you're contradicting yourself. Quote:
Originally Posted by niftydrifty you can't be a liar, if you have no idea about what the hell you're talking about. you can't intentionally deceive if your deception is inherent.
you lack the ability to look at information and reproduce it, just as i demonstrated. you don't know what a liar is. and you're obviously reluctant to enter into a true debate. why? because you're a worthless dumbass whom couldn't debate his way out of a wet paper bag. | You're right. Me capitalizing the first letter of a person's name is proof that I cannot correctly interpret things.
I should sharpen my abilities so I can spew kindergarten taunts and smears like you.
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Originally Posted by niftydrifty ...you're a worthless dumbass whom couldn't debate his way out of a wet paper bag. | | Moderator's Warning: | 
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