danarhea

Sam Brownback (R-Verizon) has lambasted Chinese authorities for installing software to spy on people who come to the Olympics in Beijing. There is just one problem with that. He is also one of the Senators who voted for the FISA update that not only allows spying on American citizens, but gives immunity to the telecoms for their own illegal spying at the behest of the Bush administration.

Sorry Sam, but I sincerely hope that you are not enough of an idiot to wonder why your demands are falling on deaf ears. You can't have it both ways.

Article is here.

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Tucker Case

LMAO! Now that's funny...

Kernel Sanders

I didn't even notice that

neilsimon

What is up with the flip-flopping these days? Seems pretty weird to me. BTW, Sam Brownback?

GottaHurt

Yes, FISA, the legislation of "the failed Bush administration", the same legislation Obama gave a YES vote on.

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Kernel Sanders

And he has taken an enormous amount of heat for this, especially from his supporters. At one point the largest group on his website was devoted to convincing him to reverse his position.

GottaHurt

That would be a good 527, Barack-O-Flop & FISA. He was for it, before he was against it.

Kernel Sanders

There was never a chance he would change his stance, what with all the ridiculous focus on flip-flopping lately. Still, there's something to be said for being sensitive to the wishes of your supporters. Not that you could tell by the current government, whose approval rating for the two biggest branches combined doesn't rise to a majority. No, blindly following one point of view regardless of additional developments or the will of the people is SOP in America today

allenwrench

Well China and the US are not that far apart when TEOTWAK arrives.

If we look at the various powers the government has through executive orders, we are pretty much a Democratic, Communist Nation Under God with only the swish of the pen from the president.

Here are just a few of them...

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

THE EXECUTIVE ORDER

What happened to all our individual freedoms with these executive orders?

It was lost long ago in the deluded American dream that believes the individual American can survive on their own.

Without a strong government you guys would be speaking Chinese or Russian. What happened to the personal property of Iraq when the US took it down? Ditto for your homes and McMansions if another country decided to move here.

Now, I am not making excuses for heavy handed tactics of the government, but I just bring this all up to remind us what can happen in a democratic country may not be that much different from what happens in some communist regimes.

Al I can say is if the government gets too out of hand from being drunk with power, sober em up some. Take to the streets and shut America down from coast to coast.

If we citizens would have been organized as engaged citizens, both political conventions could have been given the message loud and clear that we do not want political business a usual in the US and we the people are ready to shut you down if you keep up screwing up...and we will shut you down consistently and by any means necessary.

But coming back to reality this gives a glimpse of how engaged the citizens of the US of A are...

Citizens' Action Forum

lets look at another forum with lots of traffic...except when it comes to activism.

Activism Forum - Whistle Stopper Political Forums

Well, maybe next time around the country would be more energized. Of course this presupposes we have the gas and the planes will still be flying so we can get to the conventions to voice our disgust about this putrid mess we call the American political system.