| US Partisan Politics and Political Platforms Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp; Originally Posted by obvious Child
Frankly that's irrelevant at this point. We need help in Southern Afghanistan and Germany ... |
07-23-08, 08:00 AM
|
#21 (permalink)
| | Guru
Join Date: Jan 2006 Last Online: Today 07:21 PM Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,849
Thanks: 307
Thanked 938 Times in 638 Posts
Lean: Liberal Gender: 
Current Mood: | Re: Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp Quote:
Originally Posted by obvious Child Frankly that's irrelevant at this point. We need help in Southern Afghanistan and Germany said no to Bush. How can they say no to a candidate they are bending over backwards for? | Its not irrelevant at all. How can we expect our allies to trust us when we have a leader that has a history of lying?
GWB bankrupted the integrity of this country with out allies. A new leader without the history of GWB might be able to begin to repair that damage.
__________________ ETERNAL VIGILANCE IS THE PRICE OF LIBERTY - Thomas Jefferson
THOSE WHO DENY FREEDOM TO OTHERS, DESERVE IT NOT FOR THEMSELVES - ABRAHAM LINCOLN |
| |
07-23-08, 11:47 AM
|
#22 (permalink)
| | I Heart Sarah Palin
Dungeon Master
Join Date: Jul 2005 Last Online: Today 05:40 AM Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 15,909
Thanks: 3,390
Thanked 2,595 Times in 1,834 Posts
Lean: Centrist Gender: 
Current Mood: | Re: Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp Quote:
Originally Posted by 7thKeeper Disgusting? I thought that was actually quite a nice rear  Can't fault the taste in underwear either. | I thought it looked like moldy cottage cheese being piped through a black bag.
__________________ McCain / Palin 08
Obama's idea of "change" is a 40 year Washington insider who has been recycled on the presidential ticket twice now. Lawwwd Change, yes laaaawd change. |
| |
07-25-08, 01:43 AM
|
#23 (permalink)
| | User
Join Date: Jul 2006 Last Online: Today 04:46 PM
Posts: 55
Thanks: 4
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Lean: Centrist Gender:  | Re: Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp Quote:
Originally Posted by jallman I thought it looked like moldy cottage cheese being piped through a black bag. | Aaaw, come on. Have some sense of humour and don't take it so seriously. I know you have one, I've witnessed it before. Unless I somehow completely missed something here.. 
__________________ ...we honor leaders for what they achieve, but we often prefer to close our eyes to the way they achieve it...
In the real world, politics is compromise and democracy is politics. Anyone who would be a statesman has to be a successful politician first. Also, a leader has to deal with people and nations as they are, not as they should be. As a result, the qualities required for leadership are not necessary those that we would want our children to emulate - unless we wanted them to be leaders. |
| |
07-25-08, 02:47 AM
|
#24 (permalink)
| | That European Guy
Mod team member
Join Date: Jan 2005 Last Online: 09-04-08 04:48 AM Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,986
Thanks: 84
Thanked 243 Times in 171 Posts
Lean: Liberal Gender:  Awards:
Current Mood: | Re: Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp Quote:
Originally Posted by obvious Child Europeans should be alarmed at the departure of Dubya. Without Dubya in office, they can't hide behind their overwhelming hatred of him. Without that cover and with cozy relations between them and Obama, how are they going to deny requests to send their troops into conflict zones like Southern Afghanistan? How are they going to say no to donating money to Iraq or relieving Iraqi debt? Without Dubya in office, it's going to be a lot harder to say no to requests coming out of the US. | There is no overwhelming hatred of America. In fact I have met very few people who hate America. Although I do meet people who hate what America has become in the last 5-7 years, including myself. |
| |
07-25-08, 03:56 PM
|
#25 (permalink)
| | Slayer of the DP Newsbot
Join Date: Aug 2005 Last Online: Today 07:16 PM Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 10,183
Thanks: 913
Thanked 2,178 Times in 1,185 Posts
Lean: Conservative Gender: 
Current Mood: | Re: Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp Quote:
Originally Posted by GarzaUK There is no overwhelming hatred of America. In fact I have met very few people who hate America. Although I do meet people who hate what America has become in the last 5-7 years, including myself. | So, when did you last meet yourself? 
__________________ Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2008 |
| |
07-25-08, 06:49 PM
|
#26 (permalink)
| | Passionate
Join Date: Sep 2005 Last Online: Today 12:29 PM
Posts: 9,559
Thanks: 1,674
Thanked 858 Times in 595 Posts
Lean: Liberal Gender:  | Re: Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Hill Europeans aren't the only ones sick of Bush and other aging Cold War relics like McSame.  | I hope you ignore the insults that the right are giving you in this thread. Soooooo predictable. *humongous eye roll* |
| |
07-25-08, 07:01 PM
|
#27 (permalink)
| | Dare to be powerful
Mod team member
Join Date: Oct 2006 Last Online: Today 07:20 PM Location: Where the sun doesn't shine
Posts: 7,339
Thanks: 904
Thanked 2,003 Times in 1,211 Posts
Lean: Independent Gender:  Awards: | Re: Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp Are you talking to Joe Hill, or the cottage cheese ass?
__________________ "Fatigue makes cowards of us all" - Vincent T. Lombardi. |
| | | The Following User Says Thank You to WI Crippler For This Useful Post: | |
07-25-08, 07:33 PM
|
#28 (permalink)
| | Young Money Millionaire
Dungeon Master
Join Date: Oct 2006 Last Online: Today 11:20 AM
Posts: 11,916
Thanks: 2,461
Thanked 2,702 Times in 1,746 Posts
Lean: Liberal Gender: 
Current Mood: | Re: Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp Quote:
Originally Posted by WI Crippler Are you talking to Joe Hill, or the cottage cheese ass? | That ass is quite cheesy. We have so many fine liberal women. And this is the best they could do? Where was New Coup's best friend?
__________________ McSame/Moose Field Dresser 08! |
| | | The Following User Says Thank You to Hatuey For This Useful Post: | |
07-25-08, 09:25 PM
|
#29 (permalink)
| | Assheimer's Award winner
Join Date: Sep 2005 Last Online: Today 07:05 PM Location: Nudist Capital of the World
Posts: 7,030
Thanks: 1,601
Thanked 544 Times in 427 Posts
Lean: Conservative Gender: 
Current Mood: | Re: Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp Quote: |
Are you talking to Joe Hill, or the cottage cheese ass?
| obviously Joe Hill
she can not talk to the ass While she chows down on the ass
. *munch munch slurp slurp*
__________________ These days it seems that the deadliest place on earth for an American to be is inside the womb. - Joshua P. Allem |
| |
07-25-08, 10:59 PM
|
#30 (permalink)
| | Guru
Join Date: Jan 2006 Last Online: Today 07:21 PM Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,849
Thanks: 307
Thanked 938 Times in 638 Posts
Lean: Liberal Gender: 
Current Mood: | Re: Europe eager to support Obama after 8 years of WarChimp Quote:
Originally Posted by GarzaUK There is no overwhelming hatred of America. In fact I have met very few people who hate America. Although I do meet people who hate what America has become in the last 5-7 years, including myself. | That is exactly the sentiment I found in Greece last year.
I had been told to expect a lot of anti-America sentiment.
What I found was most people there loved Americans and had no hatred for America.....but they left no doubt about their feelings for GWB.
THAT's the problem....and THAT is exactly why Obama is the man we need. We need someone who will repair the damage that Bush has done with our Allies.
Bush and his isolationist....screw everybody else...we'll go it alone mentality...marginalized our allies and damaged our reputation in the world community. I believe that both Obama and McCain can work to repair that damage...however, I think Obama has the upper hand here.....as was evidenced by the support he has gotten this last week. |
| | | The Following User Says Thank You to disneydude For This Useful Post: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | | |