obvious Child

What could they hide behind? When Clinton and Bush Sr were in office they got on the boat. But when Dubya they have been almost adversarial. The situations requiring their help really haven't changed. Without Dubya hating to hide behind, what could they use as cover?

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jallman

They could very well hide behind their hatred of America their hatred of Bush is just a cover for that.

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McCain / Palin 08

Obama's idea of "change" is a 40 year Washington insider who has been recycled on the presidential ticket twice now. Lawwwd Change, yes laaaawd change.

disneydude

When I was in Europe last year....it was very obvious that they don't hate America....they do hate Bush....that was clear. They actually were very complimentary towards America.....but the vast majority of Europeans couldn't understand how we could have somebody as inept as Bush running this Country.

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disneydude

Because Bush Sr. and Clinton didn't lie and manipulate and start wars to advance an agenda. In fact, Rumsfield tried to get Bush Sr. to invade Iraq 2 decades ago.....Bush Sr. told him to get lost. Rumsfield had to wait another decade to find someone dense enough that he could get to go along with his agenda.....

obvious Child

I seriously doubt that. Anti-US sentiments during the Clinton and Bush Sr years were way below what we see today, especially in Europe. Bush Sr even got Syria to join the coalition against Saddam. That's hardcore. And Obamamania is sweeping Europe too. Without Dubya in office, what will they hide behind?

obvious Child

Frankly that's irrelevant at this point. We need help in Southern Afghanistan and Germany said no to Bush. How can they say no to a candidate they are bending over backwards for?

Hatuey

Could be because in the attempt to attack anything French maybe we missed the fact that the French armed forces(including their foreign legion) are some of the best trained in the world. Just saying. It's fun to make fun of the French however, if you're making fun of them but are completely ignorant of what France and their military is actually like, the joke is on you. Not them.

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McSame/Moose Field Dresser 08!

jallman

But it is of note that their foreign legion isn't made up of frenchmen.

Hatuey

And the U.S. government isn't made of Americans but it doesn't stop us from calling it the 'U.S. government'. :P

7thKeeper

Disgusting? I thought that was actually quite a nice rear Can't fault the taste in underwear either.

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