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Old 06-23-08, 05:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The fight against liberalism...

I hear people talk about the fight against liberalism. I would like to know how they will know when they have won that fight.
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I hear people talk about the fight against liberalism. I would like to know how they will know when they have won that fight.
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Does this answer your question IT? lol
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I hear people talk about the fight against liberalism. I would like to know how they will know when they have won that fight.
Never. Even when they had the House, the Senate, and the WH and 7 of 9 Supreme Court seats, everything is the "liberals" fault.

The will never "win" because they need to blame someone for the failures of their policies.
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I think it will happen when Socialists can no longer refer to themselves as liberals.
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I think it will happen when Socialists can no longer refer to themselves as liberals.
Give me two people in congress that are socialists, according to the classical definition. The only one I know is Bernie Sanders, and that's kinda a no brainer.
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Give me two people in congress that are socialists, according to the classical definition. The only one I know is Bernie Sanders, and that's kinda a no brainer.
That's the problem. They are able to hide using the banner of "liberal."

Suspects:

Lynn Woolsey (CA-6) -
George Miller (CA-7) -
Barbara Lee (CA-9) -
Pete Stark (CA-13)
Michael Honda (CA-15)
Nancy Pelosi (CA-8)
Sam Farr (CA-17)
Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hilda Solis (CA-32)
Diane Watson (CA-33)
Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Linda Sanchez (CA-39)
Bob Filner (CA-51)
John Conyers (MI-14)
Keith Ellison (MN-5)
Jerry Nadler (NY-8)
Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
Stephanie Tubbs Jones (OH-11)
Peter DeFazio (OR-4)
Bob Brady (PA-1)
Chaka Fattah (PA-2)
Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Jim McDermott (WA-7)
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That's the problem. They are able to hide using the banner of "liberal."

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Lynn Woolsey (CA-6) -
George Miller (CA-7) -
Barbara Lee (CA-9) -
Pete Stark (CA-13)
Michael Honda (CA-15)
Nancy Pelosi (CA-8)
Sam Farr (CA-17)
Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hilda Solis (CA-32)
Diane Watson (CA-33)
Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Linda Sanchez (CA-39)
Bob Filner (CA-51)
John Conyers (MI-14)
Keith Ellison (MN-5)
Jerry Nadler (NY-8)
Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
Stephanie Tubbs Jones (OH-11)
Peter DeFazio (OR-4)
Bob Brady (PA-1)
Chaka Fattah (PA-2)
Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Jim McDermott (WA-7)
Can you elaborate as to why you're accusing them of being socialist?
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Can you elaborate as to why you're accusing them of being socialist?
They are all members of the Democratic Progressive Caucus, it was founded by Democratic Socialists of America member Bernie Sanders to push the DSA's legislative agenda. The DSA maintained the DPC's website until 1999.

All members have extensive ultra-left voting records.


1. Barbara Lee (D-CA): Former agent of the Black Panther leader and convicted killer, Huey Newton. Lee conspired with fellow communist, Cong. Ron Dellums, who used his authority to impede U.S. foreign policy with regard to the Communist dictatorship of Grenada ... Anti-American Communist who supports America's enemies and has actively collaborated with them." (Radical Road Map, James H. Hansen, p.189)

2. Jim McDermott (D-WA): "In 2002, McDermott and fellow Progressive Caucus member Rep. David Bonoir (D-Mich) and Rep. Mike Thompson (D-CA) traveled to Baghdad, where they publicly embraced Saddam Hussein and created propaganda on his behalf."

3. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill), who has accepted an award from the DSA, once told one of its writers: "The American people are not ideological; therefore, the way to go is to attack private power." (ibid)

4. John Conyers (D-MI): "In 1981 Conyers co-hosted a delegation from the Soviet front World Peace Council, giving that group a forum in Congress. Conyers endorsed a Communist-led antiwar demonstration in Washington in 1983 and...spoke at another Washington demonstration led by ANSWER in 2003." (Radical Road Map's, James H. Hansen, p 189)

5. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) "has taken part in...CAIR (a radical group with ties to Mideast terrorist organizations) events...including a Ramadan iftar...hosted (on Capitol Hill) by Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), Loretta Sanchez (D-CA), and Barbara Lee (D-CA)." (Kucinich Headlines Muslim Fundraiser, WorldNetDaily.com, Nov. 30, 2003)
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That's the problem. They are able to hide using the banner of "liberal."

Suspects:

Lynn Woolsey (CA-6) -
George Miller (CA-7) -
Barbara Lee (CA-9) -
Pete Stark (CA-13)
Michael Honda (CA-15)
Nancy Pelosi (CA-8)
Sam Farr (CA-17)
Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Hilda Solis (CA-32)
Diane Watson (CA-33)
Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Linda Sanchez (CA-39)
Bob Filner (CA-51)
John Conyers (MI-14)
Keith Ellison (MN-5)
Jerry Nadler (NY-8)
Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
Stephanie Tubbs Jones (OH-11)
Peter DeFazio (OR-4)
Bob Brady (PA-1)
Chaka Fattah (PA-2)
Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Jim McDermott (WA-7)
I also have in my hand a list of 205 communists in the State Department.
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I also have in my hand a list of 205 communists in the State Department.
Dont forget the 140 islamists and atheists! Or the G A Y S!
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