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Old 06-19-08, 09:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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High Gas? 86% to 96% democRats Block Drilling, New Refineries, etc.

Just when you thought "Gee I don't pay enough for gas these days" The Democrats come to the rescue. Blocking once again not only allowing us to drill where China is drilling off our own damn coast, but also block the building of new refineries. Why is it that these clowns care little about the working man paying hundereds of dollars a week to fill up?


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Old 06-19-08, 10:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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And every single expert has stated over and over again, that opening up for drilling will not lower gas prices, and that at the earliest any oil can start coming out of the ground (realistically) is 5 years, with 10 years till its in full production.

So tell me.. partisan hack attack, or just plain stupidity if you believe that drilling will lower gas prices.
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Old 06-19-08, 11:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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And every single expert has stated over and over again, that opening up for drilling will not lower gas prices, and that at the earliest any oil can start coming out of the ground (realistically) is 5 years, with 10 years till its in full production.

So tell me.. partisan hack attack, or just plain stupidity if you believe that drilling will lower gas prices.


Every single one? That is a rather silly claim. Got any more? Hell you got any legitimate links backing up your absurd claim?



Introduce more supply, open more refineries and prices will drop. It's called common sense punchy.



The "stupidity" is thinking otherwise.
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Every single one? That is a rather silly claim. Got any more? Hell you got any legitimate links backing up your absurd claim?



Introduce more supply, open more refineries and prices will drop. It's called common sense punchy.



The "stupidity" is thinking otherwise.
Do you know how long it takes to build a refinery let alone find and drill for oil!?

McClatchy Washington Bureau | 06/17/2008 | McCain's call for offshore oil drilling won't bring relief soon

and loads of other articles, point out it will take YEARS (5 to 17 years) before any oil to any effect on the oil price will happen. Hell the news, including the US news (maybe not Fox) has said it too.

US Elections - Times Online - WBLG: Why John McCain's offshore oil plan makes no sense

Another great article that exposes the hyperholes and flaws of McCains propaganda.
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Do you know how long it takes to build a refinery let alone find and drill for oil!?

McClatchy Washington Bureau | 06/17/2008 | McCain's call for offshore oil drilling won't bring relief soon

and loads of other articles, point out it will take YEARS (5 to 17 years) before any oil to any effect on the oil price will happen. Hell the news, including the US news (maybe not Fox) has said it too.

US Elections - Times Online - WBLG: Why John McCain's offshore oil plan makes no sense

Another great article that exposes the hyperholes and flaws of McCains propaganda.



wait didn't you just claim that"


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And every single expert has stated over and over again, that opening up for drilling will not lower gas prices

Are you now conceding this point?
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wait didn't you just claim that"





Are you now conceding this point?
Not conceding anything, you have been totally debunked as usual. Its about time you concede that the whole drill in the sea argument of McCain and Bush is nothing but political pandering to a clueless population in an election year, and you have fallen for their propaganda.
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Not conceding anything, you have been totally debunked as usual. Its about time you concede that the whole drill in the sea argument of McCain and Bush is nothing but political pandering to a clueless population in an election year, and you have fallen for their propaganda.



So will drilling and refineries reduce gas prices or not? You are stating contradictory things here.

It is simple. More supply=lower prices. No propaganda needed.


China is drilling of my coast. Why can't we?


You debunked nothing.
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Vice President Dick Cheney's office acknowledged on Thursday that he was mistaken when he asserted that China, at Cuba's behest, is drilling for oil in waters 60 miles from the Florida coast.

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He cited his source as columnist George Will...


The Associated Press: Cheney's false comment on oil drilling attacked
George Will? This is where he's been getting his info, guess that explains a little.
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how about addressing the topic not where you think i got a piece of information from....


typical libs. making stuff up. failing to bck it up then ignoring the topic to attack the poster.
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China is drilling of my coast. Why can't we?
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Vice President Dick Cheney's office acknowledged on Thursday that he was mistaken when he asserted that China, at Cuba's behest, is drilling for oil in waters 60 miles from the Florida coast.
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how about addressing the topic not where you think i got a piece of information from....
Uh, I addressed the statement that 'China is drilling off my coast' was wrong, as Dick Cheney's office acknowledged (George Will also conceded he was wrong).

I made no mention of where you got your information, only where Dick Cheney said he got his.

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typical libs.
Thanks for the compliment...
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...making stuff up.
What did I make up? You're making stuff up, by saying I made stuff up...
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failing to bck it up...
What did I fail to back up, I showed where Dick Cheney office admitted to being wrong about China drilling off the shores of the U.S.

Would you like a more authoritative voice? He's even on your side, he wants to drill in the Gulf. It's right there in the link I provided.
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Jorge Pinon, a senior energy fellow at the University of Miami specializing in Latin America, said Cuba has awarded offshore oil leases, or concessionary blocs, in its offshore waters to six oil companies — none of them Chinese — and soon may announce an agreement with Brazil's state oil company, Petrobras.

"But no one is currently drilling in any of those concessions," said Pinon in a telephone interview. Pinon, who supports drilling in the eastern Gulf and believes it can be done without hurting the environment, said China is being raised as an unnecessary "boogeyman" by drilling proponents.

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...then ignoring the topic to attack the poster.
YOU brought up China drilling off our coast.

How, specifically, did I attack you?...
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