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Old 06-13-08, 12:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why the DEMS are just as bad as Bush !

No ethics and no principles from either parties !
Yet you will vote for both !!!!!!!

You are helping to destroy America !

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Old 06-13-08, 03:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Why the DEMS are just as bad as Bush !

It was stupid when they impeached Cilnton and this looks stupid as well. Not that there aren't merits to some of the arguments, just that at this point in time, what's the point? Let's say we do get the impeachment. Then Bush loses at his impeachment and has to leave the office. Does anyone doubt that this scenario that has virtually no chance of really occurring would have Bush out of office any sooner than he would have been anyway? Why waste US tax dollars to get Bush a 2-week vacation?

Common sense spending please.
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It was stupid when they impeached Cilnton and this looks stupid as well. Not that there aren't merits to some of the arguments, just that at this point in time, what's the point? Let's say we do get the impeachment. Then Bush loses at his impeachment and has to leave the office. Does anyone doubt that this scenario that has virtually no chance of really occurring would have Bush out of office any sooner than he would have been anyway? Why waste US tax dollars to get Bush a 2-week vacation?

Common sense spending please.
Bush has committed unprecedented crimes, and just as any other criminal, he must be held accountable for them.

Vincent Bugliosi explains why those responsible for the war must be brought to justice:

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Bush has committed unprecedented crimes, and just as any other criminal, he must be held accountable for them.

Vincent Bugliosi explains why those responsible for the war must be brought to justice:

The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder
I've read much of that book and heard him speak about it. As a lawyer, he should be embarrassed by its shoddiness.

For example, his smoking gun proof that Bush was saying that Iraq was responsible for 9/11, even though he never actually said it, is that people THOUGHT Iraq was responsible. So, it must have been because of Bush.

Yeah, that'll hold up in court.
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Bush has committed unprecedented crimes, and just as any other criminal, he must be held accountable for them.
So let's hypothesize a scenario here.

We impeach Bush.

Then he is found to have committed unprecedented crimes after a drawn out legal process.

Then he's removed from office. If we're lucky we're looking at what, December?

So we punish him by firing him one month early. Cost to taxpayer? High. Punishment level? Low. Am I missing something?
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I've read much of that book and heard him speak about it. As a lawyer, he should be embarrassed by its shoddiness.

For example, his smoking gun proof that Bush was saying that Iraq was responsible for 9/11, even though he never actually said it, is that people THOUGHT Iraq was responsible. So, it must have been because of Bush.

Yeah, that'll hold up in court.
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Yup!!! You got that right, bush & company LIED to everyone in the world so thats why people believed it. I mean who would have thought that bush & company would lie to start a war but now we know its true.
bush, chaney & company and Haliburton should be brought to court and pay for over 4,000 of our brave Troops lives.
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So let's hypothesize a scenario here.

We impeach Bush.

Then he is found to have committed unprecedented crimes after a drawn out legal process.

Then he's removed from office. If we're lucky we're looking at what, December?

So we punish him by firing him one month early. Cost to taxpayer? High. Punishment level? Low. Am I missing something?
So you would rather send the message to politicians that if it's too expensive to prosecute we won't do it?

You are missing a lot !!!!!!!!!!

If we don't hold politicians accountable for their actions what are we ?
Mindless saps that deserve to be screwed over?
Too late that's already happened.
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So you would rather send the message to politicians that if it's too expensive to prosecute we won't do it?

You are missing a lot !!!!!!!!!!

If we don't hold politicians accountable for their actions what are we ?
Mindless saps that deserve to be screwed over?
Too late that's already happened.
My point is that impeaching Bush is hardly worth calling "holding accountable." It would be like giving someone a $5 traffic fine. Would impeaching Bush really make a difference to him? At best it would give the appearance of punishment. Kind of like all the phony security measures put into place post 9/11 that do nothing but look important.

And yes, I do think from a cost/benefit perspective if it's too expensive to prosecute (benefit much less than cost) we shouldn't do it.
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My point is that impeaching Bush is hardly worth calling "holding accountable." It would be like giving someone a $5 traffic fine. Would impeaching Bush really make a difference to him? At best it would give the appearance of punishment. Kind of like all the phony security measures put into place post 9/11 that do nothing but look important.

And yes, I do think from a cost/benefit perspective if it's too expensive to prosecute (benefit much less than cost) we shouldn't do it.
OK when the next Prez. comes a long and devices a plan that will cost the US Taxpayers >$500,000,000,000.00, Because he knows that The American sheeple
won't hold him responsible. Will you then think a late impeachment is a good idea?

Your attitude is what makes the politicians so willing to screw us over !
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OK when the next Prez. comes a long and devices a plan that will cost the US Taxpayers >$500,000,000,000.00, Because he knows that The American sheeple
won't hold him responsible. Will you then think a late impeachment is a good idea?

Your attitude is what makes the politicians so willing to screw us over !
If there was a way to force that president to pay the $500,000,000,000 to the US people I would be all over it.

I understand you want to see the guy punished and I understand why. What I don't understand is how you can see an impeachment as any worthwhile punishment. It would be like buying a $10,000 rock to throw at your neighbors windows. I do not support wasting tax dollars to slap a guy on the wrist. Real punishment or don't waste my money, and impeachment will not generate a real punishment.

Now, had the impeachment been forthcoming say 2 years ago, maybe it'd have been worth something. 5 years ago, certainly. But today? It's not enough and has no benefits.
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