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Old 01-18-08, 09:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My father considers him one of the greatest presidents in US history, since I was born in 1984 I didnt pay attention to much of the world except what was going on in my own house. We were still living in NYC at the time until 86 when we moved upstate. My father credits Reagans policies the reason we were able to move out of the cesspool that was NYC at the time. Many of the left wing partisans will say the Reagan was a racist but quite the contaray here is what he said about us Latinos



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Bernardo de Galvez during the American Revolution".
-President Ronald Reagan



In addition to saying that we are Republicans but just dont know yet, whatever that meant I supose. Here is another kicker for those who said Reagan was horrible to the middle class my father and my mother were and still continue to be Union workers. My father is a Union Electrician which became Possible because of Gerald Ford telling NYC to go **** themselves. Reagan for all of his accomplishments had his downfalls.

1. He corted the Evangelical right which has set the agenda being decided by them and them alone but hopefull 2008 will break the religious moonbat hold

2. Amensty he gave illegal aliens amensty that is crap no matter how you slice it.

Nobody is perfect but he was pretty damm good for someone who was governor of California.
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Old 01-18-08, 09:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Ronald Reagan

Ronald Reagan was an embarrassment as a human being. I was naive enough to have voted for him in 1984...because I didn't study the elections and just voted against my parents at the time (who had actually been fairly conservative Republicans...until the first four years of Reagan).....

Reagan, although he had some accomplishments...left the nation with a legacy that is still haunting us today.
He is the reason for the vast numbers of homeless mentally ill people on the streets today because he cut funding and had them released...today there is still hardly any available mental health programs for the mentally ill.

He left AIDS unchecked for several years....didn't even utter the word....because he saw it as a "gay" disease and didn't give a damn that people were dying right and left.

He left this nation with a huge national debt...that took decades and a democrat to get us out of.....unfortunately the current clown in the whitehouse has put us right back into even a worse debt......

I am ashamed to have voted for Reagan.....personally I think a lot of the "love" that some people have for Reagan is similar to the "good old days".....they really weren't all that good....but with age.....the memories fade....
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He is the reason for the vast numbers of homeless mentally ill people on the streets today because he cut funding and had them released
De-institutinalization occurred as a result of court action. And a change of philosophy in the field in the direction of "normalization."


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He left AIDS unchecked for several years....didn't even utter the word....because he saw it as a "gay" disease and didn't give a damn that people were dying right and left.
AIDS was never a major killer in the USA. It was then, as now, primarily a behaviorly spread disease. Reagan's opinion of the behavior probably could have reduced the number of new cases, but that itself would cause, then and now, a whole new nest of problems.


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He left this nation with a huge national debt
The debt, as a percentage of GDP, declined during the Reagan years. And this despite the increase in spending.

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...that took decades and a democrat to get us out of
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We are still in debt. For all intents and purposes, the USA has been in debt since the 19th Century.

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....unfortunately the current clown in the whitehouse has put us right back into even a worse debt......
Debt levels and deficit levels are lower today than in 2000, again as percentage of GDP.
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Re: Ronald Reagan

Reagan wasn't racist, because he claimed he wasn't, and because he said something nice about latinos? Give me a break.

-In 1964, Reagan opposed passage of the Civil Rights act.

- Ronald Reagan also opposed the Open Housing Act, which would bar discrimination in the rental and sale of housing.

-Reagan also helped sink a similar initiative in California, which helped propel him to the governorship.

-And who can forget, that he kicked off his presidential campaign by giving a speech in Philidelphia, Mississippi, where the Klan killed three civil rights workers, the day before the anniversary of their deaths. He made no mention of the murders, but did make sure to mention that he believed in "states rights."

-As president, Reagan cut funding for civil rights enforcement and opposed "MLK day".

-Reagan vetoed the imposition of sanctions on Aparthied South Africa.

Now it's possible that reagan himself may not have personally been racist. But all evidence shows that he wasn't afraid to be racist politically, especially if it would help him win.
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De-institutinalization occurred as a result of court action. And a change of philosophy in the field in the direction of "normalization."




AIDS was never a major killer in the USA. It was then, as now, primarily a behaviorly spread disease. Reagan's opinion of the behavior probably could have reduced the number of new cases, but that itself would cause, then and now, a whole new nest of problems.




The debt, as a percentage of GDP, declined during the Reagan years. And this despite the increase in spending.

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We are still in debt. For all intents and purposes, the USA has been in debt since the 19th Century.



Debt levels and deficit levels are lower today than in 2000, again as percentage of GDP.
Ronald Reagan is one of the top 3 presidents of all time.......He inherited a total garbage mess from Carter who was not qualified to be president........., He got out hostages back from Iran, Cut interest rates from the highest they ever have been, curbed inflation and instituted tax cuts that stimulated the economy, but best of all he defeated the Soviets in the Cold War........

God Bless you President Reagan, may you rest in peace.....
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Reagan wasn't racist, because he claimed he wasn't, and because he said something nice about latinos? Give me a break.

-In 1964, Reagan opposed passage of the Civil Rights act.
And like the patriot act, the name is meant to deceive.

The civil rights act of 1964 did not protect any rights, it stripped them. It brought us quotas, even though proponents claimed it is absurd to claim this legislation would bring about quotas.
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The debt, as a percentage of GDP, declined during the Reagan years. And this despite the increase in spending.

Debt levels and deficit levels are lower today than in 2000, again as percentage of GDP.
The funny thing is that not only are you factually incorrect since the national debt rose from about 30% of GDP to about 70% of GDP during the Reagan and Bush I years and are wrong about debt levels as a percentage of GDP being lower in 2000 than now (about 60% in 2000 compared to about 67% now), but two bleating sheep thank you for your factual errors. Before making statements like this, you might want to do a little research first rather than just repeating the Republican party line.
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Ronald Reagan is one of the top 3 presidents of all time.......
By what standard? Who was bumped out? Lincoln, Washington or Jefferson?
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I dont think democrats have much to say on this issue would they preffered their guy Jimmy Carter had another term?
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By what standard? Who was bumped out? Lincoln, Washington or Jefferson?

Jefferson and maybe Washington..........
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