donc

He would have been better off if he had left that one alone.

Stinger

Some, some is not. And without factoring how many troops that were available to get hurt in training accidents and by other means the numbers are meaningless.

And do you judge each President by the number of deaths not attributed to hostile fire? Why?

Why are you surprised we are at war. We are in a hostile action.

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donc

Two Sentences, two questions, answer to your first question “no’ makes your second question that you apparently answered for me, moot.



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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und Top that off with the question no one seems to want to answer or even acknowledge....How did over 4k troops die in the 1st 4 years of his presidency compared with 883 more during Bush's 1st 4 years?>






In your Quixote flailing at windmills to get the nomination for the “Debate Politics Asshat of the Year Award”, you evidently didn’t check the origin of what I was responding too.

That is it above. You’ll notice that it didn’t say anything about accidents, or other means, just deaths.

When it was first put out it was a typical right wing smear job on President Clinton, ignoring the fact that the originators were just stating natural causes.

I’m sure you will click your heels together and find some obscure off the wall thing to respond to, that will find most on this forum scratching there head, and muttering wtf. I’m done with this 180 post thread.

Back to you Stinger, I’m off to give you yet another nomination, realizing that there are quite a few worthy opponents for the award, but in my not so humble opinion you, much like Presidential candidate Ron Paul, will continue plodding along, he to get the nomination of President of the United States, you to get the coveted ““Debate Politics Asshat of the Year Award” keep flailing Stinger ,as Yogi would say it’s not over till it’s over.

TheHonestTruth

Patriotism is not unquestioning loyalty to political leaders.

Patriots will support what we're doing right, and dissent against what our current leaders doing wrong.

Stinger

No I asked for your opinion which you can choose to give or not. The answer to the first being no pretty much makes the chart moot on top of the fact it does not account for the total numbers of troops serving under each President.



Responding to one post/poster then switching to another and then back can be confusing, take note.

I could really care less, if you are just going to engage in hyperbole and ad hominem don't bother. Note my sig.

independent_thinker2002

I don't see sigs in this thread. You mean the sig that has a logic fallacy in it. "The Gang that is always right." Intelligent people stop speaking in absolutes when the become adults.

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Stinger

Oh well if you can't carry on a reasonable debate.............

independent_thinker2002

People are going to wonder about your mental health if you don't stop talking to yourself.

mpg

What do you call it when people oppose random members of the military in a way that says nothing about the policies of the civilian government?

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TheHonestTruth

If you are against the way government officials are using a military you shouldn't support more recruitment to that military.