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Liberal's Guide to Debate

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1. Make stuff up and don't give sources

Need data to back up what you say? No problem. Just make stuff up like this:

"2 million people in developing countries have died due to global warming."

Actually, say "Over 50 million men, women and children have succumed to the starvation

brought on by global warming cause by the United States." That is much more dramatic.

If some conservative asks for a source for the claim just say "everyone knows that".


2. Don't respond to arguments you might not win


Some darn republican make a really good post with a logical argument and cited sources?

Simple! Just don't respond!

Instead: bump threads made by your fellow liberals with smiley faces and quoting

pyramids.

That silly article on what John Kerry said will be buried in no time!


3. Make a completely new page on wikipedia.com, then make a post citing your page as

a source.


Don't worry about the wikipedia admins. Those guys are busy keeping all the other

liberals from edited historical pages. It will take them a week to see that someone

made up a page about an event that never happened, and by that time your original post

on the forums will be safely under the radar.


4. Blame Jews

Violence in the middle east? Blame the Jews.

Stock market lose points today? It was the Jew bankers.

Car break down? Those Jew mechanics must have sabotaged it.

Got fired for smoking pot? The Jews forced you to.

Tripped and fell on the sidewalk? Jewish black magic.

Disability check come a week late? It was that Jew mailman's fault.

Can't get laid? The Jews made you ugly and unpopular.



5. Quote other liberals to make arguments

Want to attack the Bush administration but can't make your own argument? No problem!

Just find something Moore wrote or an op-ed from the New York times.

This way you can spam the boards with an endless supply of ideas you didn't think of.

"New Post"
"Control-C"
"Control-V"
"Send"


6.




1. Make stuff up and don't give sources

Need data to back up what you say? No problem. Just make stuff up like this:

"2 million people in developing countries have died due to global warming."

Actually, say "Over 50 million men, women and children have succumed to the starvation brought on by global warming cause by the United States." That is much more dramatic. If some conservative asks for a source just say "everyone knows that".


2. Don't respond to arguments you might not win


Some darn republican make a really good post with a logical argument and cited sources?

Simple! Just don't respond!

Instead: bump threads made by your fellow liberals with smiley faces and quoting pyramids.

That silly article on John Kerry's latest blunder will be buried in no time!


3. Make a completely new page on wikipedia.com, then make a post citing your page as a source.

Don't worry about the wikipedia admins. Those guys are busy keeping all the other liberals from edited historical pages. It will take them a week to see that someone made up a page about an event that never happened, and by that time your original post on the forums will be safely under the radar.


4. Blame Jews

Violence in the middle east? Blame the Jews.

Stock market lose points today? It was the Jew bankers.

Car break down? Those Jew mechanics must have sabotaged it.

Got fired for smoking pot? The Jews forced you to.

Tripped and fell on the sidewalk? Jewish black magic.

Disability check come a week late? It was that Jew mailman's fault.

Can't get laid? The Jews made you ugly and unpopular.


5. Quote other liberals

Want to attack the Bush administration but can't make your own argument? No problem! Just find something Moore wrote or an op-ed from the New York times.

This way you can spam the boards with an endless supply of ideas you didn't think of.

"New Post"
"Control-C"
"Control-V"
"Send"


6. Never make a real argument


Attempting to make real arguments based on facts can lead to disaster. Conservatives might occasionally take 5 minutes to check your sources and see you made stuff up.

If you forget and attempt to honestly debate someone (and start losing), frantically start replying to other posts and other people. Make it look like you have more important things to do than prove what you said.



7. Call Bush a Nazi


Calling Bush a Nazi is a great one liner. You can put that sentence in a text file on your desktop then have it ready to copy and paste every time you open up the forums. It saves time and precious energy that would otherwise be spent on playing video games or smoking pot.

There is a slight chance someone might take the time to reference history books and dispute your claim (Nazi's apparently were evil spacemen or something from the year 1492). If this happens simply use the previously mentioned quote spamming technique.



8. Make yourself a victim


Trying to make an argument about gun control? Say a white man in a pickup truck shot off your leg.

Global warming? Your dad's farm dried up because of the increased temperatures, causing him to comit suicide.

Israel? Your mother was raped and killed by Jewish soldiers.

Abortion? Your sister was raped by satan and would have given birth to the anti-christ if it wasn't for that hero doctor with the coathanger.

People will be afraid to call you on your bull if you might actually have some emotional stake in an argument. Be careful with details though: you could get proven to be a fake. If someone asks just say "it's too painful to talk about".


************************************

Follow these rules and soon you will have a post count of over 8000 without having to actually debate anyone, making you the winner of the internet.
 
Lmao.That.Is.Great.
Enough said. *waits for flamers*
 
This is pointless, a waste of time, bandwidth and human energy.

Liberals do not have a monopoly on this behavior. Those on both the left and right wings, where the feathers end and empty space begins, engage in the exact same tactics.
 
That might've been the most pointless post I've ever seen.
 
Originally posted by Skip:
That might've been the most pointless post I've ever seen.
Nice avatar. Is that a young Sugar Ray Obama?
 
Actually, say "Over 50 million men, women and children have succumed to the starvation brought on by global warming cause by the United States." That is much more dramatic.

"More dramatic" or not, liberals- unlike their ideological adversaries- generally know how to spell.
 
"More dramatic" or not, liberals- unlike their ideological adversaries- generally know how to spell.

I wanted the liberal argument to be true to form.
 
That might've been the most pointless post I've ever seen.

I disagree as to the post's pointlessness. We all need to read some fiction on this forum now and then...:2wave:
 
1. Make stuff up and don't give sources

Need data to back up what you say? No problem. Just make stuff up like this:

"2 million people in developing countries have died due to global warming."

Actually, say "Over 50 million men, women and children have succumed to the starvation

brought on by global warming cause by the United States." That is much more dramatic.

If some conservative asks for a source for the claim just say "everyone knows that".


2. Don't respond to arguments you might not win


Some darn republican make a really good post with a logical argument and cited sources?

Simple! Just don't respond!

Instead: bump threads made by your fellow liberals with smiley faces and quoting

pyramids.

That silly article on what John Kerry said will be buried in no time!


3. Make a completely new page on wikipedia.com, then make a post citing your page as

a source.


Don't worry about the wikipedia admins. Those guys are busy keeping all the other

liberals from edited historical pages. It will take them a week to see that someone

made up a page about an event that never happened, and by that time your original post

on the forums will be safely under the radar.


4. Blame Jews

Violence in the middle east? Blame the Jews.

Stock market lose points today? It was the Jew bankers.

Car break down? Those Jew mechanics must have sabotaged it.

Got fired for smoking pot? The Jews forced you to.

Tripped and fell on the sidewalk? Jewish black magic.

Disability check come a week late? It was that Jew mailman's fault.

Can't get laid? The Jews made you ugly and unpopular.



5. Quote other liberals to make arguments

Want to attack the Bush administration but can't make your own argument? No problem!

Just find something Moore wrote or an op-ed from the New York times.

This way you can spam the boards with an endless supply of ideas you didn't think of.

"New Post"
"Control-C"
"Control-V"
"Send"


6.




1. Make stuff up and don't give sources

Need data to back up what you say? No problem. Just make stuff up like this:

"2 million people in developing countries have died due to global warming."

Actually, say "Over 50 million men, women and children have succumed to the starvation brought on by global warming cause by the United States." That is much more dramatic. If some conservative asks for a source just say "everyone knows that".


2. Don't respond to arguments you might not win


Some darn republican make a really good post with a logical argument and cited sources?

Simple! Just don't respond!

Instead: bump threads made by your fellow liberals with smiley faces and quoting pyramids.

That silly article on John Kerry's latest blunder will be buried in no time!


3. Make a completely new page on wikipedia.com, then make a post citing your page as a source.

Don't worry about the wikipedia admins. Those guys are busy keeping all the other liberals from edited historical pages. It will take them a week to see that someone made up a page about an event that never happened, and by that time your original post on the forums will be safely under the radar.


4. Blame Jews

Violence in the middle east? Blame the Jews.

Stock market lose points today? It was the Jew bankers.

Car break down? Those Jew mechanics must have sabotaged it.

Got fired for smoking pot? The Jews forced you to.

Tripped and fell on the sidewalk? Jewish black magic.

Disability check come a week late? It was that Jew mailman's fault.

Can't get laid? The Jews made you ugly and unpopular.


5. Quote other liberals

Want to attack the Bush administration but can't make your own argument? No problem! Just find something Moore wrote or an op-ed from the New York times.

This way you can spam the boards with an endless supply of ideas you didn't think of.

"New Post"
"Control-C"
"Control-V"
"Send"


6. Never make a real argument


Attempting to make real arguments based on facts can lead to disaster. Conservatives might occasionally take 5 minutes to check your sources and see you made stuff up.

If you forget and attempt to honestly debate someone (and start losing), frantically start replying to other posts and other people. Make it look like you have more important things to do than prove what you said.



7. Call Bush a Nazi


Calling Bush a Nazi is a great one liner. You can put that sentence in a text file on your desktop then have it ready to copy and paste every time you open up the forums. It saves time and precious energy that would otherwise be spent on playing video games or smoking pot.

There is a slight chance someone might take the time to reference history books and dispute your claim (Nazi's apparently were evil spacemen or something from the year 1492). If this happens simply use the previously mentioned quote spamming technique.



8. Make yourself a victim


Trying to make an argument about gun control? Say a white man in a pickup truck shot off your leg.

Global warming? Your dad's farm dried up because of the increased temperatures, causing him to comit suicide.

Israel? Your mother was raped and killed by Jewish soldiers.

Abortion? Your sister was raped by satan and would have given birth to the anti-christ if it wasn't for that hero doctor with the coathanger.

People will be afraid to call you on your bull if you might actually have some emotional stake in an argument. Be careful with details though: you could get proven to be a fake. If someone asks just say "it's too painful to talk about".


************************************

Follow these rules and soon you will have a post count of over 8000 without having to actually debate anyone, making you the winner of the internet.


Give me one example of a liberal on this fourm blameing the jewish PEOPLE for anything.
 
I wanted the liberal argument to be true to form.

I didn't see any sources for your argument, Free Thinker. Nor did I see you respond to any of the comments you might not win. Yet in posting this thread you appear to be a victim of propaganda especially when you claim Liberals always blame the Jews and they always call Bush a Nazi without any proof or citing any sources. So what does that make you, Free Thinker? Well, I guess it makes you a self described Liberal in your own image. :2rofll:
 
That wasnt even good plaigarism

dot dot dot.

What content did I steal exactly sir?

My name on perspectives is crySPOON by the way. I posted it there first.
 
I didn't see any sources for your argument, Free Thinker. Nor did I see you respond to any of the comments you might not win. Yet in posting this thread you appear to be a victim of propaganda especially when you claim Liberals always blame the Jews and they always call Bush a Nazi without any proof or citing any sources. So what does that make you, Free Thinker? Well, I guess it makes you a self described Liberal in your own image. :2rofll:

YOUR WORDS CUT LIKE A KNIFE INTO MY HEART. I AM UNPLUGGING MY COMPUTER NOW. I CONCEDE YOU THE INTERNET, YOU HAVE WON IT FAIR AND SQUARE.
 
so pacifisism eqautes to liberalism? do you even no what liberalism is?

I could take the time to point out your post looks like you slammed a package of sausages on your keyboard, but I won't do that.

Liberals today may say that if needed they will go to war, but that is almost never the case. I believe american liberalism's core is pacifism spawned by apathy and/or fear, only forced into action by a screaming public.

Go talk to "Ghandi>Bush", I'm sure you have much in common my afro puffed fellow internet person.
 
so pacifisism eqautes to liberalism? do you even no what liberalism is?

The better question is "do you?"

Bigoted, knee jerk reactionary politics is NOT liberal. Neither is a slavish devotion to dogma, the utilization of specious rhetoric aimed at obfuscating one's hatred or the display of sympathies for those whose attitudes are the very antithesis of liberality.

No actual liberal would be motivated to put a link in his signature that attempted to rationalize the hatred that motivates him to single out one people from all the peoples in the world and say "You do not deserve self-determination". A real liberal would see through that b.s. in a heartbeat.

There is a big difference between understanding liberal principles and simply conforming to a jack-booted political doctrine that you have convinced yourself makes you a liberal.

I would suggest you learn the difference.
 
The better question is "do you?"

Bigoted, knee jerk reactionary politics is NOT liberal. Neither is a slavish devotion to dogma, the utilization of specious rhetoric aimed at obfuscating one's hatred or the display of sympathies for those whose attitudes are the very antithesis of liberality.

No actual liberal would be motivated to put a link in his signature that attempted to rationalize the hatred that motivates him to single out one people from all the peoples in the world and say "You do not deserve self-determination". A real liberal would see through that b.s. in a heartbeat.

There is a big difference between understanding liberal principles and simply conforming to a jack-booted political doctrine that you have convinced yourself makes you a liberal.

I would suggest you learn the difference.

Im more of a social democrat then a liberal so that least we agree on something. Ive no problem with isreali self determination so long as it doesnt take away the rights of others. The rights of the palestinian people are not respected under isreali ocupation. Thats recogniseing a problem not hateing a people. If you could see the difference then you might be able to debate issues rather then people. This is unlikely but i live in hope.

As for my link, it links to a jewish speaker so i doubt there any anti-semitism involved. Incidenlty the concept of human rights [such as those being dennied to the palestinians] has it origins in the classical liberal phillosophy behind the liberal revolutions* so that certainly questions your own liberalism.

* see the "declartion of the rights of man"
 
Red_Dave said:
Im more of a social democrat then a liberal so that least we agree on something.

You say you are a "social democrat", which confirms that you view these labels in terms of a group you join rather than the principles to which one adheres. At least we have that established

Red_Dave said:
Ive no problem with isreali self determination so long as it doesnt take away the rights of others.

Yet you support anti-zionism, which is the movement that seeks to deny that right. Do you always talk out of both sides of your mouth?

Red_Dave said:
As for my link, it links to a jewish speaker so i doubt there any anti-semitism involved.

Yeah, that one sure threw me off. A gentile finding some Jewish voices in order to obfuscate. What's next, Israel Shahak? Are there any antisemites out there who DON'T pull this trick? I sure haven't seen any.


Red_Dave said:
Incidenlty the concept of human rights [such as those being dennied to the palestinians] has it origins in the classical liberal phillosophy behind the liberal revolutions* so that certainly questions your own liberalism.

No, my own liberalism also takes into account the human rights of the Jewish residents of Israel, which your view doesn't. Heck, what's a little premeditated murder between friends, right? Heaven forbid that anybody could possibly suggest that murder was an infringement of a human right!!
 
You say you are a "social democrat", which confirms that you view these labels in terms of a group you join rather than the principles to which one adheres. At least we have that established



Yet you support anti-zionism, which is the movement that seeks to deny that right. Do you always talk out of both sides of your mouth?



Yeah, that one sure threw me off. A gentile finding some Jewish voices in order to obfuscate. What's next, Israel Shahak? Are there any antisemites out there who DON'T pull this trick? I sure haven't seen any.




No, my own liberalism also takes into account the human rights of the Jewish residents of Israel, which your view doesn't. Heck, what's a little premeditated murder between friends, right? Heaven forbid that anybody could possibly suggest that murder was an infringement of a human right!!

Well i dont see captalism in its current state working in humanitys intrests, espicially in the long term so the liberal label hardly sticks. That said im strongly in favor the rights set out in classical liberal documents like the declaration of the rights of man.Im not sure thats anything to do with being part of a group.

Well like i say i have no problem with jewish self determination as long as it didnt denny the rights of others. If pulled off sucessfuly a two state solution to the conflict could do this. I dont belive one people group has a "right" to abuse the rights of others. If anyones vision of zionism respects the right of other races ive not problem with it.

Im not sure ive ever said is isreali citizens didnt have rights. If fact ive barley mentioned or criticised isreali citizens. What i have mentioned and criticised is the isreali government. What your doing is failling to mention the difference.

I think a mistake alot of people on both sides make is asummeing that if someone condems one side they automatically support everything the other side does. For example you wrongly seam to assume that because i cricticise Isreal i automatically support killing jewish citizens or automatically support Hamas [which i dont for the same reason i dont support likud]. Likewise when i criticised hezbollah for targetting civillians I was accused by a co-worker of supporting isreali policy in palestine. Both of you where are wrong and for the same reason.
 
It's amusing the OP offered no sources or links to validate his claims about Liberals...Basically, he's guilty of the very offenses he's accusing others of.
 
I have been insulted, wrongly contradicted, and keen dispositions used in vain by numerous Republican separatist on this forum and especially within Myspace Republican forums...

Americans really need to consider amending the haste and foolish belittlement between political parties and against each other, because this form of un-Americanism only separates the bridges of solidary needed.

If you have issues with a specific politican please offer concern toward that individual politican. Please stop putting political parties within a collective union. In America, every American have the right to be preceived as individual regardless the negative and collective forces that dictates other-wise.

To me the originator of this post isn't finding solutions this great country deserves. Rather, all I see is more American separation and enmity.

The American Separatist mentality cannot go on controling the proper directions this great country deserves to travel upon.

Please find solutions; Americans continuously are being genocide and yet, political representatives we elect from both parties cannot seem to find congressional time to seriously combat this engross reality.

Nor do I read Americans in here finding such engross realities valid; of course if its not within your communities it's considered an American poverty concern, mostly enlisted by minorities who don't vote nor have the right image to be primary Americans.
 
To "justagirl": Touché. That was a good one liner and more effective than the guy that replied after you with a heartfelt book about finding real solutions to social problems.

chosendudenyc: When I decide to make a serious post you can reply seriously. This post was a joke to be taken and responded to as a joke. I make plenty of serious threads on real issues, and if you want to start pouring your heart out do it there.
 

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