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Left Wing Inspired Violence

Not must be, but would more likely be someone on the left. In the US anyway. Left/Right mean different things in other parts of the world.


Given the left is less likely to be supportive of Israel, and if RFK was killed because he supported Israel, it would more likely be by someone on the left. What's faulty about this logical conclusion?

You probably weren't even born yet when RFK was shot, because you certainly display that you have no idea what the left did or did not support at that time.

What leftists do or do not support now is irrelevent to what happened over 40 years ago, especially consiering how the target was so liberal for his time.
 
You probably weren't even born yet when RFK was shot, because you certainly display that you have no idea what the left did or did not support at that time.

What leftists do or do not support now is irrelevent to what happened over 40 years ago, especially consiering how the target was so liberal for his time.

Stop it. RFK was a McCarthyi style Conservative and not part of the Democratic renaissance of the 1960s.
 

So to find equivalence (oh yeah, well your mother wear's army boats), we have to go back 30-40 years? Get serious! Better yet, get a real argument. Yes, there were periods of a violent left, but we are dealing with a contemporary issue, not discussing human history. The Right is in the spot light. Their collective defensiveness and their propensity to grasp at straws is a prima facie case on their guilt. Repent!
 
Wisconsin Dems Promote Violence Against New Repub Governor!

So the sticker depicts a “bullet train” aimed right for Scott Walker’s head and the friendly people in the union gleefully show blood splattering from his head as the “bullet” hits him!



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•It was a liberal who bit the finger off a man who disagreed with him on healthcare.
•It was Obama-loving Amy Bishop who took a gun to work and murdered co-workers.
•Joseph Stack flew his plane into the IRS building after writing an anti-conservative manifesto.
•It was liberals who destroyed AM radio towers outside of Seattle.
•It's liberals who burn down Hummer dealerships.
•It was progressive SEIU union thugs who beat a black conservative man who spoke his mind.
•It's doubtful that a conservative fired shots into a GOP campaign headquarters.
•In fact, Democrats have no monopoly on having their offices vandalized.
•Don't forget it was Obama's friend Bill Ayers who used terrorism as a tool for political change. SDS is still radical, with arrests in 2007 and the storming of the CATO Institute in July 2008.
•It was a liberal who was sentenced to two years for bringing bombs and riot shields to the Republican National Convention in 2008
•It was a liberal who threatened to kill a government informant who infiltrated her Austin-based group that planned to bomb the RNC.
•It was liberals who assaulted police in Berkeley.
•It was liberals who intimidated and threw rocks through the windows of researchers.
•The two Black Panthers who stood outside polls intimidating people with nightsticks were probably not right-wingers.


Liberals Hate

•National Public Radio legal affairs correspondent Nina Totenberg:

f there is retributive justice [Sen. Jesse Helms] will get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.

•Howard Dean:

I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for . . .

•British pundit Charlie Brooker, during the presidency of George W. Bush:

John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. — where are you now that we need you?

•Democrat Representative Pete Stark, speaking to a Republican:

You think you are big enough to make me, you little wimp? Come on. Come over here and make me, I dare you. You little fruitcake.

•Alabama Democratic congressional incumbent Earl Hilliard, on challenger, Artur Davis:

Davis and the Jews, No Good for the Black Belt

•Markos Moulitsas Zuniga crowed over the death of American contractors in Iraq:

I feel nothing over the death of merceneries [sic]. They aren’t in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.

•Duncan “Atrios” Black discussing ABC’s The Note:

[M]y take on The Note has always been, with apologies to Douglas Adams:

A bunch of mindless jerks who will be first up against the wall when the revolution comes
.

•Huffington Post blogger Tony Hendra wished for Dick Cheney to die:

O Lord, give Dick Cheney’s Heart, Our Sacred Secret Weapon, the strength to try one more time! For greater love hath no heart than that it lay down its life to rid the planet of its Number One Human Tumor.

•USA Today syndicated columnist Julianne Malveaux, on Clarence Thomas:

I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease.

•Washington Post syndicated columnist Richard Cohen:

For hypocrisy, for sheer gall, [Newt] Gingrich should be hanged.

•Comedian and (former) talk show host Craig Kilborn [Caption under footage of George W. Bush]:

Snipers Wanted

•Sandra Bernhard:

"Sarah Palin will be Gang raped by my big black brothers"

•Members of the St. Petersburg Democratic Club:

And then there’s Rumsfeld who said of Iraq “We have our good days and our bad days.” We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say “This is one of our bad days” and pull the trigger.

•Actor Alec Baldwin on Conan O’Brien:

If we were in other countries, we would all right now, all of us together, all of us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! We would stone him to death! [crowd cheers] Wait! Shut up! Shut up! No shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families.

•Comedian Chris Rock:

If President Clinton would pardon me I would whip Starr’s ass right now. I will get a crew from Brooklyn and we will stomp him like, like, we’re Savion Glover. We’ll stomp him like it’s bringing da noise.

•Director Spike Lee on Charlton Heston:

Shoot him with a .44 caliber Bulldog.

•James Carville on Ken Starr:

He’s one more mistake away from not having any kneecaps.

•Syndicated columnist Alexander Cockburn:

There is a sound case to be made for dropping a tactical nuclear weapon on the Cuban section of Miami. The move would be applauded heartily by most Americans. Alas, Operation Good Riddance would require the sort of mature political courage sadly lacking in Washington, D.C., these days.

•Columnist, author, media pundit, journalist, and newspaper editor Dan Savage:

My plan? Get close enough to Bauer to give him the flu, which, if I am successful, will lay him flat just before the New Hampshire primary. I’ll go to Bauer’s campaign office and cough on everything. Phones and pens. Staplers and staffers. I even hatch a plan to infect the candidate himself; I’ll keep a pen in my mouth until Bauer drops by his offices to rally the troops. And when he does, I’ll approach him and ask for his autograph, handing him the pen from my flu-virus-incubating mouth.

•Democrat Senator Robert Byrd:

There are white niggers. I’ve seen a lot of white niggers in my time. I’m going to use that word.

•Democrat presidential candidate Jesse Jackson on Jews:

Hymies

and on New York City:

Hymietown

•During his presidential campaign, Jesse Jackson was linked with (and refused to denounce) Louis Farrakhan, who has at times been linked with the Congressional Black Caucus, which also supported his Million Man March. Farrakhan is a man of the left who has been a harsh critic of President Bush.

◦Here’s Farrakhan on Jews:

Many of the Jews who owned the homes, the apartments in the black community, we considered them bloodsuckers because they took from our community and built their community but didn’t offer anything back to our community.

◦Farrakhan on Pope John Paul II:

no good cracker

◦Farrakhan on white people:

White people are potential humans – they haven’t evolved yet.

Murder and lying comes easy for white people.

Malachy McCourt, 2006 Green Party candidate for governor in New York State, on Chris Matthews' "Hardball":
Matthews: "Look, let me ask you this. Where are you on capital punishment?"

Malachy McCourt: "Capital punishment? I think that if, if I've got to find that guy in Spain who indicted Pinochet and get him for war crimes, and I get him to do the same thing for Bush. And in that case, I would be for capital punishment. Otherwise, I am against it . . . "

Democratic Talk Radio's Stephen Crockett:
"If I had my way, I would see Katherine Harris and Ken Blackwell strapped down to electric chairs and lit up like Christmas trees. The better to light the way for American Democracy and American Freedom!"

Warren County Community College adjunct English professor, John Daly:
"Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors."

The Village Voice's Michael Feingold -- in a theater review:
"Republicans don't believe in the imagination, partly because so few of them have one, but mostly because it gets in the way of their chosen work, which is to destroy the human race and the planet. Human beings, who have imaginations, can see a recipe for disaster in the making; Republicans, whose goal in life is to profit from disaster and who don't give a hoot about human beings, either can't or won't. Which is why I personally think they should be exterminated before they cause any more harm."

Courtland Milloy, in the Washington Post ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04018.html ):
I know how the "tea party" people feel, the anger, venom and bile that many of them showed during the recent House vote on health-care reform. I know because I want to spit on them, take one of their "Obama Plan White Slavery" signs and knock every racist and homophobic tooth out of their Cro-Magnon heads.

Paul Krugman, the New York Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/opini ... ugman.html ):
A message to progressives: By all means, hang Senator Joe Lieberman in effigy.

New York State Comptroller Alan Hevesi, introducing Senator Schumer at a college commencement ( http://www.therightperspective.org/2011 ... ushs-eyes/ ):
"The man who, how do I phrase this diplomatically, who will put a bullet between the president's eyes if he could get away with it.

Bill Maher:
"needlessly tomorrow....I'm just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That's a fact."I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn't be dying

Michael Moore:
"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win."

A "humor bit" from the Randi Rhodes show:
"A spoiled child (Bush) is telling us our Social Security isn't safe anymore, so he is going to fix it for us. Well, here's your answer, you ungrateful whelp: [audio sound of 4 gunshots being fired.] Just try it, you little b*stard. [audio of gun being cocked]."

Daily Kos diarist, snafubar:
"One of the reasons I have such trouble believing in God is that if he were real and the justice that pious believers speak of were genuine, guys like George Bush should be vaporized instantaneously one day just by opening his mouth. I'm still waiting."

From a fund raising ad put out by the St. Petersburg Democratic Club:
"..And then there's Rumsfeld who said of Iraq 'We have our good days and our bad days.' We should put this S.O.B. up against a wall and say 'This is one of our bad days' and pull the trigger. Do you want to salvage our country? Be a savior of our country? Then vote for John Kerry and get rid of the whole Bush Bunch."

Markos Moulitsas Zuniga (founder and publisher of Daily Kos) on the four Americans who were murdered by terrorists and then had their corpses desecrated in Fallujah, Iraq:
"Let the people see what war is like. This isn't an Xbox game. There are real repercussions to Bush's folly. That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries. They aren't in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them."
 
It does not consider reality as a factor in the equation. Besides, you already proved yourself incorrect in your very post, above. Left/right is very different outside the US. You are trying to use a US politcal definition on someone who is non-US. Lastly, this person is just militant. Political party is irrelevant. You're premise is, as I said, completely absurd and is nothing but an erroneous attempt at villification.
So, if I've proven myself incorrect, who wins the argument?

I'm not trying to vilify anybody (well, other than Sirhan Sirhan). My argument was simply to counter Spud's supposition that Sirhan Sirhan committed the act out of nationalism, thus making him right wing. Soooo, my carefully thought out defense here is, Spud started it.:2razz:
 
You probably weren't even born yet when RFK was shot, because you certainly display that you have no idea what the left did or did not support at that time.

What leftists do or do not support now is irrelevent to what happened over 40 years ago, especially consiering how the target was so liberal for his time.
I admit, JFK and RFK were both before my time. I really wasn't making an argument about why RFK was killed. I was simply stating that, today, in the US, if someone was shot for being pro-Israel, the shooter would more likely be left wing.
 
You can go back even further, all the way to the American Revolution. Then list your claims up until presnt day. You will certainly find that the American Left has always been much more violent than the Right. We've waged the most foreign wars and have been guilty of the most violence against the citizenry of the US.

The sky is blue too.
 
Obamator
God bless you sir, best post I've seen posted here in response to the liberal lefts claims that only the right peddles hate and violence.
Of course you can can expect little in the way of response, for when presented with “facts” of their own hatred and violent spewings, they will flee like rats.
 
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Obamator
God bless you sir, best post I've seen posted here in response to the liberal lefts claims that only the right peddles hate and violence.
Of course you can can expect little in the way of response, for when presented with “facts” of their own hatred and violent spewings, they will flee like rats.

I appreciate your comment since I get a lot of flack from the left here. But this place is a piece of cake compared to the lunes over at Bluelight forum. That place will drive you crazy.
 
So, if I've proven myself incorrect, who wins the argument?

I'm not trying to vilify anybody (well, other than Sirhan Sirhan). My argument was simply to counter Spud's supposition that Sirhan Sirhan committed the act out of nationalism, thus making him right wing. Soooo, my carefully thought out defense here is, Spud started it.:2razz:

Speaking of Sirhan Sirhan and Obama's bud Bill Ayers...

Bill Ayers denied emeritus status at UIC
Son of RFK — now U. of I. board chair — rips prof for dedicating book to his father’s assassin
When retiring University of Illinois at Chicago professor Bill Ayers co-wrote a book in 1973 [sic], it was dedicated in part to Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Robert F. Kennedy.
That came back to haunt Ayers when the U. of I. board, now chaired by Kennedy’s son, considered his request for emeritus status Thursday. It was denied in a unanimous vote.

Zombie » Sirhan Sirhan dedication backfires on Bill Ayers 36 years later
 
Here's another one. Someone posted about her being a tea partier on another thread. I corrected it but it took me while to find the facts. I just knew it didn't sound like someone on the right, but someone on the left trying to cause a stink. I was right.


Bluegrass Pundit: That Crazed Tea Partier who sent a threatening email that led to a Florida school shutdown is really a lefty

Right-wing talker, and former Allen West Chief-of-Staff, Joyce Kaufman made a provocative statement at a July tea party rally,
”if ballots don’t work, bullets will."
That statement was followed by a threatening email and phone call from someone claiming to agree with Kaufman. The threats led to a 300 Florida schools being locked down and caused Kaufman to resign as Allen West's Chief-of-Staff. The woman making the threats has now been identified. She is no Tea Partier at all. She is a lefty member of the Green Part trying to get Kaufman in trouble.
Over at the liberal Huffington Post, they reported an AP version of the arrest that never mentioned the woman was a lefty Green Party member faking agreement with Kaufman.
 
Haha. It's fun to watch people claim that Sirhan Sirhan was a member of the left considering how incredibly conservative Palestinian society is. This argument that he was 'probably' from the left fails to realize that the majority of Palestinian militants aren't left or right in the American context of politics. The paradigm is an entirely different one.

.....and yet the palestinian cause is finding support by american liberals/leftists in growing numbers in the last several years. Haven't you noticed? I have. I believe american jews are paying attention as well.


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WASHINGTON (JTA) -- Jewish approval of President Obama is dropping, a new national survey has found.

Some 51 percent of American Jews approve of the job Obama is doing, compared to the 44 percent who disapprove, according to a just-completed American Jewish Committee survey. The numbers represent a drop from the 57 percent approval rating Obama got from Jews the last time the AJC did a survey, in March, and a sharp decline from the 79 percent approval rating Obama had among Jews in a May 2009 poll. Obama captured 78 percent of the Jewish vote in the presidential election two years ago......
 
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