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Tea Party Called Racist? What the MSM won't tell you

I know of no Tea Party function sponsored by Fox News but I do know that Fox News covered the Tea Parties as they should.

So then why is it that after people started being critical of Fox News involvement in the Tea Parties, Rupert Murdoch said in reply to the question of why they sponsor Tea party events, "That is something I think we should not be doing." A week later a Tea Party event in my area was supposed to have Hannity show up and oops surprise! He cancelled his appearance after boss man reigned in the dogs.
 
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So then why is it that after people started being critical of Fox News involvement in the Tea Parties, Rupert Murdoch said in reply to the question of why they sponsor Tea party events, "That is something I think we should not be doing." A week later a Tea Party event in my area was supposed to have Hannity show up and oops surprise! He cancelled his appearance after boss man reigned in the dogs.

Hannity isn't a news person for Fox News, he is an OP Ed person. If Fox News was going to sponsor Tea Party Events then Hannity would have participated but didn't and was called back to New York. Hannity,Beck, O'Reilly are not part of the Hard News on Fox, they are opinion people.
 
So then why is it that after people started being critical of Fox News involvement in the Tea Parties, Rupert Murdoch said in reply to the question of why they sponsor Tea party events, "That is something I think we should not be doing." A week later a Tea Party event in my area was supposed to have Hannity show up and oops surprise! He cancelled his appearance after boss man reigned in the dogs.
everytime i turned on fox news for a several month stretch, it was always a 'tea party' theme...they were always at the events, i seem to remember hannity hosting his show from several of them, both on tv and radio....fox was for all intents and purposes, sponsoring them.
 
everytime i turned on fox news for a several month stretch, it was always a 'tea party' theme...they were always at the events, i seem to remember hannity hosting his show from several of them, both on tv and radio....fox was for all intents and purposes, sponsoring them.

you are certainly entitled to your opinion but that opinion doesn't make it fact. Hannity was prevented from going on stage at a Tea Party for fear that it sent the wrong message for Fox News. Hannity however is a Op Ed person vs. a hard news person. Covering the Tea Party's however seems to be the responsible thing to do since that group is made up of members of all political spectrum. I love the Tea Party movement because it is grass roots, has members of all parties, and is drawing attention even the braindead Obama supporters as to the agenda of this leftwing campaigner in chief. Like far too many the attack machine of this Administration and supporters ignores the Tea Party message and instead tries to destroy the individuals involved. Same tactic is played in this forum as well, attack the messenger and ignore the message.
 
you are certainly entitled to your opinion but that opinion doesn't make it fact. Hannity was prevented from going on stage at a Tea Party for fear that it sent the wrong message for Fox News.

What would have been the "wrong message"?

Hannity however is a Op Ed person vs. a hard news person. Covering the Tea Party's however seems to be the responsible thing to do since that group is made up of members of all political spectrum.

You mean that there are Socialists in the tea party? :shock:

I love the Tea Party movement because it is grass roots, has members of all parties, and is drawing attention even the braindead Obama supporters as to the agenda of this leftwing campaigner in chief.

"Members of all parties" indeed. :rofl

Like far too many the attack machine of this Administration and supporters ignores the Tea Party message and instead tries to destroy the individuals involved. Same tactic is played in this forum as well, attack the messenger and ignore the message.

What is the tea party message?

"I hate Obama."?
 
I gave my opinion on it, and that wasn't good enough. Because the people that run that entire network showed up and sponsored them that still means Fox didn't sponsor them apparently.

Also, just because the kids drive mom and grandpa to a rally, doesn't make them supporters. Here are some real stats for you:
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A recent gallop poll also indicated that the tea party movement has 18% of Americans support, so less than 2 out of 10 support it. Even less than that are active in it.
 
I gave my opinion on it, and that wasn't good enough. Because the people that run that entire network showed up and sponsored them that still means Fox didn't sponsor them apparently.

Also, just because the kids drive mom and grandpa to a rally, doesn't make them supporters. Here are some real stats for you:
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A recent gallop poll also indicated that the tea party movement has 18% of Americans support, so less than 2 out of 10 support it. Even less than that are active in it.

So exactly what is your point? If it has so little support why are you even giving it any attention?

It does allow for you to divert from the disaster we have in the WH and in charge of the govt. today. Keep ignoring the actual facts to focus on what you describe as an insignificant movement.
 
Because this is a forum and it's something to talk about? I dunno you instigated a response and I gave you one. Your best rebuttal is to scoff at mine. Also hey, I can fully understand the WH and it's misgivings, I just know how to take it into proportion and not conclude that our country is going to be in ruins because of who is in there. It hasn't happened before when we had worse people in office, and it won't happen now.
 
Because this is a forum and it's something to talk about? I dunno you instigated a response and I gave you one. Your best rebuttal is to scoff at mine. Also hey, I can fully understand the WH and it's misgivings, I just know how to take it into proportion and not conclude that our country is going to be in ruins because of who is in there. It hasn't happened before when we had worse people in office, and it won't happen now.

I responded to your post of yesterday and you ignored it. Actual results trump your rhetoric. You call previous leadership worse than what we have now? The results don't support your "feelings and opinions" No President in U.S. History has ever run trillion dollar deficits or had 16 million unemployed after spending trillions to prevent both from happening. Obama sold you a bill of goods and you continue to buy it. The fact remains results matter more than rhetoric yet the braindead continue to buy rhetoric because it is easier than actually doing research to verify the rhetoric.

You want so badly to buy what Obama tells you that you ignore what Obama is doing. This country wasn't built on the principles Obama is implementing and thus the failures we have right now. Too bad the youth of this country, a youth that you want us to take seriously, ignores history, ignores civics, and ignores the direction our leftwing campaigner in chief is taking this country.
 
Because this is a forum and it's something to talk about? I dunno you instigated a response and I gave you one. Your best rebuttal is to scoff at mine. Also hey, I can fully understand the WH and it's misgivings, I just know how to take it into proportion and not conclude that our country is going to be in ruins because of who is in there. It hasn't happened before when we had worse people in office, and it won't happen now.

This is what you consider a better Administration that others?

Pick Your Reason

When your friends can't explain why they voted for Democrats, give them this list. They can then pick a reason .

10. I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

9. I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

8. I voted Democrat because Freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

7. I voted Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

6. I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

5. I voted Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies through abortion so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

4. I voted Democrat because I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education, and Social Security benefits.

3. I voted Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as the democrats see fit.

2. I voted Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.

1. I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my ass that it is unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

I'll keep my Freedom, my God and my Guns... You keep the Change...
 
This is what you wanted Conservative. A chance to attack somebody on something that has nothing to do with your original subject. You got your chance, and I will leave it at that.
 
This is what you wanted Conservative. A chance to attack somebody on something that has nothing to do with your original subject. You got your chance, and I will leave it at that.

Yep, often times partisan hacks are just looking for a soap box to spew their talking points from.
 
This is what you wanted Conservative. A chance to attack somebody on something that has nothing to do with your original subject. You got your chance, and I will leave it at that.

What you did was ignore the data I provided you and the sites to verify that data. There wasn't a personal attack there but there was an attack on the information you provided which said absolutely nothing of value. You want to be taken seriously then stop posting opinions as fact and verify any data before posting it. It is your ideology and comments that I attacked, not you. Suggest you try doing the same thing with me.

I responded to your post #24 and you ignored that response. The question is why?
 
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What specifically do you want me to talk about?

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1. I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my ass that it is unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

I would consider that a personal attack.
 
What specifically do you want me to talk about?

Also:


I would consider that a personal attack.

A personal attack on who? Did you vote for Obama? You call yourself a centrist and I know that no true centrist would vote for Obama

It would be helpful if you addressed post #25 which of course you ignored.
 
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I gave my opinion on it, and that wasn't good enough. Because the people that run that entire network showed up and sponsored them that still means Fox didn't sponsor them apparently.

Also, just because the kids drive mom and grandpa to a rally, doesn't make them supporters. Here are some real stats for you:
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A recent gallop poll also indicated that the tea party movement has 18% of Americans support, so less than 2 out of 10 support it. Even less than that are active in it.

I think the stat is pretty fair actually. What SHOULD scare the democrtats to death are the 41%

Of course this ignores the fact that even Mary Francis Berry said the Tea Party was no more racist than anyone else, but by calling them racist you will take away the emphasis on the real problems...the bad economy...continued unemployment, and rampant government spending. And thats out of the mouth of a democrat supporter.

I think the OP point is simply this...why do you think the left works so hard to marginalize the successful blacks in this country that dont accept the past as an excuse to continue to fail? Why is there no coverage of people that support the Tea Party that HAPPEN to be black? Why do you think that reporter in the video was so ANGRY for those blacks not toeing their expected role?

Because God help the left if minorities ever wake up and stop looking at just what the democrats have done to **** them over throughout history.
 
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I think the stat is pretty fair actually. What SHOULD scare the democrtats to death are the 41%

Of course this ignores the fact that even Mary Francis Berry said the Tea Party was no more racist than anyone else, but by calling them racist you will take away the emphasis on the real problems...the bad economy...continued unemployment, and rampant government spending. And thats out of the mouth of a democrat supporter.

I think the OP point is simply this...why do you think the left works so hard to marginalize the successful blacks in this country that dont accept the past as an excuse to continue to fail? Why is there no coverage of people that support the Tea Party that HAPPEN to be black? Why do you think that reporter in the video was so ANGRY for those blacks not toeing their expected role?

Because God help the left if minorities ever wake up and stop looking at just what the democrats have done to **** them over throughout history.

I have seen coverage of black tea party members o' plenty, including coverage on CNN from a tea party group that specifically catered towards blacks. I'm not sure how you mean they marginalize successful blacks.


What specifically about #25 would you want addressed? There is a lot there, and I think I covered some of it, could you bold out what you are talking about and repost?
 
If you want to have a credible discussion then you have to get away from the liberal talking points from MediaMatters, Huffington Post, MoveOn, and other leftwing sites that take things out of context and distort reality. I know of no Tea Party function sponsored by Fox News but I do know that Fox News covered the Tea Parties as they should. Do you know the difference between the Opinion personnel and hard news personnel? From your post I don't think you have a clue.



And that is a problem, why? In your state the Tea Party candidate Rand Paul won without Republican support. That has happened in other states as well. The fact that GOP Candidates showed up to support tea party candidates goes to show how polarizing the Obama agenda is and what a disaster it has created.


There are a lot of Democrats and Independents in the Tea Party. The initial roots come from the opposition to the massive growth in the sie of govt, overwhelming debt, intrusion into the lives of all Americans with programs like National Healthcare, and redistribution of wealth. Ron Paul is an honest politician and practices what he preaches when it comes to spending. He takes no pork for his District and I live in the Houston area and know his record. Conservative politicians are more closely aligned with the goals of the Tea Party than liberal Democrats. Not sure why you have a problem with that.



Why would anyone who believes in personal responsibility, reduction in the size of the govt, individual wealth creation, tax cuts for all taxpayers align themselves with the Democrat Party. I was a Democrat for decades before I realized the party had left me. You seem to have a problem with the Tea Party agenda and love to label people Republicans and Democrats instead of Americans who care about what is happening in this country.

I had no use for John McCain but he sure beat the alternative. I guarantee you he wouldn't have added 3 trillion to the debt in two years and we wouldn't have 16 million unemployed. Have you paid any attention to Obama and his speeches. He has been on one constant campaign and demonizes conservatives at every turn. He never accepts responsibility and continues to blame Bush for everything even though the Democrats were in charge of the Congress from 2007 on. Obama has had total control including a filibuster proof Senate during part of his first term and has made things worse. The results are there for all to see. Some however remain blind.

I really don't believe you have a clue as to what the Tea Party stands for as there isn't just one Tea Party group, they are different in every part of the country but their common theme is united, smaller govt, stop the massive spending on programs that don't work, support the private sector, stop trying to redistribute wealth.

You are projecting when you say that Tea Party supporters are much older and have a common theme of taking our country back saying they don't want us young people controlling anything. What exactly is Obama allowing the young people to control? According to him you aren't smart enough to handle your own health care, you aren't smart enough to spending your own money, you aren't smart enough to make the right choices in life. The Tea Party wants the govt. out of the decision making process for ALL Americans. They are about personal responsibility, individual wealth creation, consequences for poor choices and failures. I have seen on evidence that they are against the younger people. It would help you however to pay a little more attention to the experience that older people have instead of stereotyping older people into the same category.

Why do you believe a word Obama says? He has yet to tell you the truth on any issue and BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury Dept. websites are non partisan and have the actual facts. Obama and Democrats state that the Bush tax cuts cost the country trillions and created the debt. Why doesn't the checkbook of the United States, U.S. Treasury, show that. Why is it that the U.S. Treasury shows income tax revenue growing AFTER the Bush tax rate cuts? Explain that to me then explain how raising taxes on the top income earners in this country are going to make a dent in the 13.4 trillion dollar debt we now have when that amounts to about 40 billion dollars if it is collected at all. I don't know why people like you are concerned about what others make including the rich. No rich person got rich and made someone else poor as this isn't a zero sum economy.

I really get frustrated when young people claim that they aren't being listened to or taken seriously when they make statements like you have just made. All this outrage over what rich people make and pay in taxes. You do know it was their money before it went to the govt. thus tax cuts aren't an expense to the Federal Govt. Where is your outrage over the 3.8 trillion dollar budget today and the trillion dollar deficits each of Obama's first two years? Please name for me any other President in U.S. History that had a trillion dollar deficit in any year?


It does seem to me that if you want to be taken seriously then you will stop buying what you are told and research to verify the rhetoric. I gave you non partisan sites as a good place to start.

Bolded parts of post that you ignored.
 
I know of no Tea Party function sponsored by Fox News but I do know that Fox News covered the Tea Parties as they should. Do you know the difference between the Opinion personnel and hard news personnel?

I responded to this, you didn't like my answer.

And that is a problem, why? In your state the Tea Party candidate Rand Paul won without Republican support. That has happened in other states as well. The fact that GOP Candidates showed up to support tea party candidates goes to show how polarizing the Obama agenda is and what a disaster it has created.

Rand Paul won because he used his dad's leftover cash to take out McConnell's boy. Rand Paul won because there is neo-con, and then there is ultra-con he would be an ultra-con. Sharon Angle would be an ultra-con, Sarah Palin would be an ultra-con. Most of these people percribe less to the complicated nature of politics and more to the "these are my people taking my land back" kind of attitude that seems to permeate throughout the Tea Party movement.

There are a lot of Democrats and Independents in the Tea Party. The initial roots come from the opposition to the massive growth in the sie of govt, overwhelming debt, intrusion into the lives of all Americans with programs like National Healthcare, and redistribution of wealth. Ron Paul is an honest politician and practices what he preaches when it comes to spending. He takes no pork for his District and I live in the Houston area and know his record. Conservative politicians are more closely aligned with the goals of the Tea Party than liberal Democrats. Not sure why you have a problem with that.

I had no problem with it, because Ron Paul like I said is a man of his word and I respect him for it. What I have a problem with, is Republicans, conservatives, and conservative media twisting it for their own gain, something I believe wasn't the initial use for it.

Why would anyone who believes in personal responsibility, reduction in the size of the govt, individual wealth creation, tax cuts for all taxpayers align themselves with the Democrat Party.

If you make under $25,000 a year, Obama has already given a tax cut. The tax cuts phase out for people making over 250k and are set permanent for people making under that. I to agree the government is getting a bit hefty specifically with it's many bueracrcies, but this is nto a problem created by Obama exclusively, this has been going on at an exponetial rate with democrats and republicans since FDR.

Have you paid any attention to Obama and his speeches. He has been on one constant campaign and demonizes conservatives at every turn. He never accepts responsibility and continues to blame Bush for everything even though the Democrats were in charge of the Congress from 2007 on. Obama has had total control including a filibuster proof Senate during part of his first term and has made things worse. The results are there for all to see. Some however remain blind.

I totally agree, Obama has not been taking full responsiblity, he hasn't been tough enough, and this is why the healthcare debate dragged on for so long, something he could have accomplished within 6 months took him a whole year+ to accomplish.

I really don't believe you have a clue as to what the Tea Party stands for as there isn't just one Tea Party group, they are different in every part of the country but their common theme is united, smaller govt, stop the massive spending on programs that don't work, support the private sector, stop trying to redistribute wealth.

I know completely what they stand for, but the bigger national tea parties have outside influences involved in shaping the way they do business now, such as Dick Armey.


What exactly is Obama allowing the young people to control? According to him you aren't smart enough to handle your own health care, you aren't smart enough to spending your own money, you aren't smart enough to make the right choices in life.
Obama has created consumer protections that help people like me have better control over their finanices and credit. Because I have no insurance right now, my pregnant girlfriend doesn't have to worry about not having insurance when she has the baby because she can stay on her mom's until she is 26 if she so chooses.

Where is your outrage over the 3.8 trillion dollar budget today and the trillion dollar deficits each of Obama's first two years? Please name for me any other President in U.S. History that had a trillion dollar deficit in any year?
I stated with inflation FDR has spent much more than Obama, and since FDR every single president since then (due to inflation) has spent more and more Dem or Rep.


Why do you believe a word Obama says? He has yet to tell you the truth on any issue and BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and the U.S. Treasury Dept. websites are non partisan and have the actual facts. Obama and Democrats state that the Bush tax cuts cost the country trillions and created the debt. Why doesn't the checkbook of the United States, U.S. Treasury, show that. Why is it that the U.S. Treasury shows income tax revenue growing AFTER the Bush tax rate cuts? Explain that to me then explain how raising taxes on the top income earners in this country are going to make a dent in the 13.4 trillion dollar debt we now have when that amounts to about 40 billion dollars if it is collected at all. I don't know why people like you are concerned about what others make including the rich. No rich person got rich and made someone else poor as this isn't a zero sum economy.

I do not believe everything he says and I don't expect rolling back Bush tax cuts as solving our defict crisis, but it won't hurt anything either.
 
JohnWOlin;1058905165]I responded to this, you didn't like my answer.

I didn't like your answer because it was wrong. Fox News isn't sponsoring Tea Party rallies and you have provided no evidence refuting my statement.

Rand Paul won because he used his dad's leftover cash to take out McConnell's boy. Rand Paul won because there is neo-con, and then there is ultra-con he would be an ultra-con. Sharon Angle would be an ultra-con, Sarah Palin would be an ultra-con. Most of these people percribe less to the complicated nature of politics and more to the "these are my people taking my land back" kind of attitude that seems to permeate throughout the Tea Party movement.

That is your opinion but the fact remains he is a Tea Party activist and the latest polls that I saw have him leading in the General Election. Sharon Angle is a true grass roots candidate running against one of the most corrupt and liberal candidates in the Senate. She is in a tight race with a corrupt, overfunded politician, Harry Reid.


I had no problem with it, because Ron Paul like I said is a man of his word and I respect him for it. What I have a problem with, is Republicans, conservatives, and conservative media twisting it for their own gain, something I believe wasn't the initial use for it.

This is done by both political parties. The one in charge now and claimed they would "drain the swamp" have actually added more alligators to swamp.

If you make under $25,000 a year, Obama has already given a tax cut. The tax cuts phase out for people making over 250k and are set permanent for people making under that. I to agree the government is getting a bit hefty specifically with it's many bueracrcies, but this is nto a problem created by Obama exclusively, this has been going on at an exponetial rate with democrats and republicans since FDR.

If you make under 25,000 a year you don't pay any taxes and get a transfer payment from those that do. Tax cuts phasing out doesn't help the economy because it changes human behavior. You and others need to stop with the distortion, tax rate cuts grew govt. revenue during JFK, Reagan, and GW Bush. Obama gave a rebate, no rate cut and when that money was gone it was gone. It was paid out over a year but then it was gone.

I totally agree, Obama has not been taking full responsiblity, he hasn't been tough enough, and this is why the healthcare debate dragged on for so long, something he could have accomplished within 6 months took him a whole year+ to accomplish.

Obama has zero leadership skills and that was evident on his resume. Too many bought the hope and change message and ignored that resume. Healthcare is a personal responsibility not a govt. responsibility. Too many personal factors affect one's health. I don't expect you to pay for mine so why should I pay for yours?


I know completely what they stand for, but the bigger national tea parties have outside influences involved in shaping the way they do business now, such as Dick Armey.

Anything that changes the way things are going now should be embraced. Too many are ignoring the results to focus on rhetoric. Fact is the Bush years weren't nearly as bad as the media is portraying them. They continue to get a pass in claiming it was tax cuts that caused the deficits when the reality was those tax cuts grew income tax revenue and GDP. Too much false information being accepted as the truth. I learned a long time ago to trust but verify. No one is verifying the rhetoric today and it is actual verifiable results that will vindicate Bush.

Obama has created consumer protections that help people like me have better control over their finanices and credit. Because I have no insurance right now, my pregnant girlfriend doesn't have to worry about not having insurance when she has the baby because she can stay on her mom's until she is 26 if she so chooses.

What Obama has done is give more lip service to a problem and he ignored the biggest cause of the problem we have today, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. There are laws on the books to prevent what happened in the financial community but those laws weren't enforced so what did Democrats do, create new laws. Where is the guarantee these will be enforced.

I am sorry to hear you don't have insurance,neither did our Founders. There are consequences for actions and decisions people face. Sorry but it isn't the taxpayers responsibility but as you seem to be finding out a family issue to solve those personal problems.


I stated with inflation FDR has spent much more than Obama, and since FDR every single president since then (due to inflation) has spent more and more Dem or Rep.

FDR had a World War but the reality is no President has spent as much money as Obama and no President other than Obama had a trillion dollar deficit. No President other than Obama ever added 3 trillion to the debt in two years. Inflation is basically non existent in the present, it is all dollars being spent without getting positive results.


I do not believe everything he says and I don't expect rolling back Bush tax cuts as solving our defict crisis, but it won't hurt anything either.

giving people a tax hike during a recession will destroy this economy further. Your take home pay is going to be less. Stop and think about what your take home pay funds and what you are going to do with less money. Yes, eliminating the Bush tax cuts will hurt the economy.
 
I didn't like your answer because it was wrong. Fox News isn't sponsoring Tea Party rallies and you have provided no evidence refuting my statement.

I provided plenty, in fact after Murdoch said a few years ago that supporting the tea party movement was the most important thing Fox could do, he retreaded on the fact after probes by the various organizations that Fox News is apart of: MicShots: Fox News Pulls Support for Tea Party...

Sharon Angle is a true grass roots candidate running against one of the most corrupt and liberal candidates in the Senate. She is in a tight race with a corrupt, overfunded politician, Harry Reid.
All senators from Reid to McConnell create provisions and earmarks to better suit their needs. If any of them appropriate funds for their own pet projects I would object to that, however Angle is an all out loon. Anything she says is pure gold. You can't right one wrong with another wrong, especially if that wrong likely won't work with her own peers either.

Obama has zero leadership skills and that was evident on his resume. Too many bought the hope and change message and ignored that resume. Healthcare is a personal responsibility not a govt. responsibility. Too many personal factors affect one's health. I don't expect you to pay for mine so why should I pay for yours?
But you do realize that you are already paying for millions of childrens healthcare right and that most of the healthcare bill as it is now is more about driving cost down and making the system more fair? As I stated, without the healthcare bill, my girlfriend would not be able to have guaranteed insurance on her mom's insurance for the next 5 years. She has a few pre-existing conditions as well that before would have been uncoverable or make the rates go up even higher. With the healthcare bill, insurance companies can't do this anymore.

Also to be honest, I don't really care about the deficit I was just pointing out that while Obama has spent more money, every single president since FDR has spent more than the last (other than Carter and Bush Sr. they were about even with the previous spending). Even with the surplus Clinton gave us, that was just a surplus over money we borrowed out, we still had a national deficit, and it is more of an abstract number than anything else.
 
JohnWOlin;1058905201]I provided plenty, in fact after Murdoch said a few years ago that supporting the tea party movement was the most important thing Fox could do, he retreaded on the fact after probes by the various organizations that Fox News is apart of: MicShots: Fox News Pulls Support for Tea Party...

If that is true why was Hannity prevented from participating in a Tea Party event?

All senators from Reid to McConnell create provisions and earmarks to better suit their needs. If any of them appropriate funds for their own pet projects I would object to that, however Angle is an all out loon. Anything she says is pure gold. You can't right one wrong with another wrong, especially if that wrong likely won't work with her own peers either.

You show that you are in Kentucky yet you call Angle a loon. I don't know a thing about Angle but I do know about Reid and the true disaster he has been as Majority Leader and the results generated. Angle can do no worse in my opinion.

But you do realize that you are already paying for millions of childrens healthcare right and that most of the healthcare bill as it is now is more about driving cost down and making the system more fair? As I stated, without the healthcare bill, my girlfriend would not be able to have guaranteed insurance on her mom's insurance for the next 5 years. She has a few pre-existing conditions as well that before would have been uncoverable or make the rates go up even higher. With the healthcare bill, insurance companies can't do this anymore.

Yes, I do know that and we also know the results of that spending. Why create another massive entitlement program without solving the problem. There is nothing in that bill that improves the quality of healthcare or increases the supply of doctors. we live in a free enterprise, capitalistic economy and this bill destroys incentive to become a doctor. MA has universal healthcare now and ER usage is skyrocketing as are the costs. Why can the Feds do better? You are buying a bill of goods with no historical results to back up the rhetoric. this country doesn't need National Healthcare to get pre-existing conditions or portability issues handled.

Also to be honest, I don't really care about the deficit I was just pointing out that while Obama has spent more money, every single president since FDR has spent more than the last (other than Carter and Bush Sr. they were about even with the previous spending). Even with the surplus Clinton gave us, that was just a surplus over money we borrowed out, we still had a national deficit, and it is more of an abstract number than anything else.

There was NO clinton surplus, as it was a manufactured surplus that took money from SS to make it appear that there was a surplus. Clinton added 1.2 trillion to the debt and benefited from the Reagan peace dividend but left us with the dot.com bubble bursting. You cannot take money out of SS that was intended for the future and use it to show a surplus when it will be needed in the future to handle SS responsibilities. Somehow a projected surplus so many is real whereas actual deficits don't exist. Doesn't make any sense.

Hardly a Conservative outlet for information. Guess Huffington Post got it wrong

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/15/fox-news-pulls-sean-hanni_n_539719.html

You do know that there is a difference in covering the Tea Party vs participating in the Tea Party? Just like there is a difference between the Fox News Opinion Commentators and their Hard News personnel
 
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This may have been Meghan Kelly misspeaking:



The intro isn't opinion, it's propaganda. I like how Sean is speaking to the crowd. I like how he used a little girl's sign as a prop.



CNN had this:





This has a lot of interesting clips:

 
You show that you are in Kentucky yet you call Angle a loon. I don't know a thing about Angle but I do know about Reid and the true disaster he has been as Majority Leader and the results generated. Angle can do no worse in my opinion.

What does me being from KY have anything to do with me calling Angle a loon? Oh wait is it because I'm wearing overalls with no shirt under it and I'm sitting out on my porch blowing into a jug while I **** my sister?

entitlement program
Making sure children in our nation, the best nation in the world can grow up healthy is "entitlement"? I think we should get rid of senior citizens discounts, now that's entitlement.
 
What does me being from KY have anything to do with me calling Angle a loon? Oh wait is it because I'm wearing overalls with no shirt under it and I'm sitting out on my porch blowing into a jug while I **** my sister?


Making sure children in our nation, the best nation in the world can grow up healthy is "entitlement"? I think we should get rid of senior citizens discounts, now that's entitlement.

Because what you read isn't necessarily what is happening. I live in TX and don't claim to have total knowledge of Angle. Why would you call her a loon without truly knowing her. My father grew up in Ky, I worked in Louisville and still have family in Ky. Getting a little sensitive?

As for heathy children, are you going to let the govt. raise yours? Growing up healthy is a responsibility of the parents, not the Federal govt. You control what your kids eat, not the govt. As for senior citizen discounts, that is a private business decision, not the governments? I really fear for your child if this is the way you think. No wonder we are in the mess we are with the attitude you seem to have regarding private industry, entitlements, and the role of Govt.
 
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