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The Tea Party Movement

Fiddytree said:
Again, the genesis of the Tea Party Movement was the Bush bailouts of 2008.
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Yip and the Tea Party was formed in 2007. But niggling little facts like that quite frequently escape the majority of the Tea Party ranters here at DP.;)
 
Simba said:
Anyone notice at the Tea Party gatherings, that their all white people who voted for Bush and had nothing to say about his greatest expansion of government since Great Society, and have no gualms about spending a Trillion dollars for a war based on lies?
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What planet are you from.........Its true Bush was a big spender but Barry has spent more in a year then Bush did in eight and Bush had 9/11 and the biggest natural disaster in history in Katrina on his watch

Were those the same lies that "Slick Willie" told when he advocated regime change in 1998? Why do I bother.......
 
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Who was that guy on some news channel that mentioned there should be a protest like the Boston Tea Party? That's how it all began. And, no, it wasn't Fox News, Romper Room members.
 
Navy Pride said:
What planet are you from.........Its true Bush was a big spender but Barry has spent more in a year then Bush did in eight and Bush had 9/11 and the biggest natural disaster in history in Katrina on his watch

Were those the same lies that "Slick Willie" told when he advocated regime change in 1998? Why do I bother.......
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Wrong. Get your facts straight old man. You are listening to way too much FauxNews and you have your information wrong. :doh:doh:doh:doh:doh
 
Obama has quadrupled the deficit with the stimulus package.

•President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008. President Obama would add another $1 trillion.
•President Bush began a string of expensive finan*cial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.
•President Bush created a Medicare drug entitle*ment that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new govern*ment health care fund.
•President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. Presi*dent Obama would double it.
•President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already in*creased this spending by 20 percent.
•President Bush tilted the income tax burden more toward upper-income taxpayers. President Obama would continue that trend.

•President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.
UPDATE: Many Obama defenders in the comments are claiming that the numbers above do not include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. They most certainly do. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is included in the numbers above. Also, some Obama defenders are claiming the graphic above represents biased Heritage Foundation numbers. While we stand behind the numbers we put out 100%, the numbers, and the graphic itself, above are from the Washington Post. We originally left out the link to WaPo. It has now been added.

CLARIFICATION: Of course, this Washington Post graphic does not perfectly delineate budget surpluses and deficits by administration. President Bush took office in January 2001, and therefore played a lead role in crafting the FY 2002-2008 budgets. Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for the FY 2009 budget deficit that overlaps their administrations, before President Obama assumes full budgetary responsibility beginning in FY 2010. Overall, President Obama’s budget would add twice as much debt as President Bush over the same number of years.

Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.
 
Navy Pride said:
What planet are you from.........Its true Bush was a big spender but Barry has spent more in a year then Bush did in eight
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Absolutely preposterous bull****. Where do you get this stuff?
 
Simba said:
Anyone notice at the Tea Party gatherings, that their all white people who voted for Bush and had nothing to say about his greatest expansion of government since Great Society, and have no gualms about spending a Trillion dollars for a war based on lies?
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Anyone notice how the anti-tea party types will make it up as they go along?



The tea party has been proven to represent the demographics of this country pretty close. playing the race card wont work. :shrug:
 
Mellie said:
Obama has quadrupled the deficit with the stimulus package.
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False.

The stimulus cost $700 or so billion. The vast majority of the deficits in the last two years is caused by reduced revenue from a suffering economy, not additional spending.
 
BWG said:
Federal Income Taxes on Middle-Income Families at Historically Low Levels — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
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More Progressive clap trap....On the site for this particular Chicago based propaganda so called "think tank" that is chock full of prior Carter, and Clinton drones, is one of the founders of the CBPP, Richard W. Boone. As the tribute opens it outlines Boone's efforts with the Feilds Foundation, and his ties to other founders of the CBPP, then as one of his colleges describes him, "A Godfather of Social Justice" in the Chicago area.

Sorry BWG, I don't take well to propaganda.


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
More Progressive clap trap....On the site for this particular Chicago based propaganda so called "think tank" that is chock full of prior Carter, and Clinton drones, is one of the founders of the CBPP, Richard W. Boone. As the tribute opens it outlines Boone's efforts with the Feilds Foundation, and his ties to other founders of the CBPP, then as one of his colleges describes him, "A Godfather of Social Justice" in the Chicago area.
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translation: doesn't have a counter argument, and thus will malign the staff of the organization producing the facts which work against his stated political beliefs

Sorry BWG, I don't take well to propaganda.


j-mac
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unless that propaganda is disseminated from faux news, then pour another glass of kool aid, please
 
justabubba said:
translation: doesn't have a counter argument, and thus will malign the staff of the organization producing the facts which work against his stated political beliefs
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No, you have it wrong again, and possibly projecting here.

Here is the gushing video discussing their co founder Richard Boone....

Video: Honoring Richard W. Boone — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Now did they or did they not describe him as a "Godfather of Social Justice"?


unless that propaganda is disseminated from faux news, then pour another glass of kool aid, please
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that is a sword that cuts both ways there bubba....
Same could be said for your blather obviously derived from the likes of Olbermann, and Mahr.


j-mac
 
Yeah, all this makes the analysis based on CBO numbers completely wrong.

j-mac said:
No, you have it wrong again, and possibly projecting here.

Here is the gushing video discussing their co founder Richard Boone....

Video: Honoring Richard W. Boone — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Now did they or did they not describe him as a "Godfather of Social Justice"?





that is a sword that cuts both ways there bubba....
Same could be said for your blather obviously derived from the likes of Olbermann, and Mahr.


j-mac
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misterman said:
Yeah, all this makes the analysis based on CBO numbers completely wrong.
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The CBO numbers are wrong.....


Washington is buzzing with news that the Congressional Budget Office has a new cost estimate for the President’s proposal to further expand the federal government’s control over the health care system. The White House is doubtlessly pleased because the takeaway message, as blindly regurgitated by the Associated Press, is that a giant new entitlement program is going to “drive down red ink:”

The Congressional Budget Office estimated the legislation would reduce the federal deficit by $138 billion over its first 10 years, and continue to drive down the red ink thereafter. Democratic leaders said the deficit would be cut $1.2 trillion in the second decade – and Obama called it the biggest reduction since the 1990s, when President Bill Clinton put the federal budget on a path to surplus.
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Michael Cannon already has explained that the cost estimate is fraudulent because of what it leaves out, so let me explain why it is fraudulent because of what it includes. The CBO has a very dismal track record of getting the numbers wrong, in part because there is no attempt to measure how a bigger burden of government has negative macroeconomic effects, but also because the number crunchers do a poor job of measuring the degree to which people (recipients, health care providers, state and local politicians, etc.) will modify their behavior to become eligible for other people’s money. The problem is compounded by similar mistakes for revenue estimates from the Joint Committee on Taxation, which (like CBO) makes no attempt to capture macroeconomic effects and has a less-than-stellar history of predicting behavioral responses.

If the legislation passes, we will get more spending, more taxes, and more debt. Equally troubling, we will get more dependency. That’s good for Washington and bad for the country.

Lies, Damned Lies, and CBO Estimates | Cato @ Liberty
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j-mac
 
j-mac said:
The CBO numbers are wrong.....
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Wrong CBO numbers, Jack. I'm talking about the ones the CBPP used in their analysis of tax rates.
 
misterman said:
Wrong CBO numbers, Jack. I'm talking about the ones the CBPP used in their analysis of tax rates.
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And what makes you think that the numbers from a group founded on a principle of Social Justice would be any more credible?


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
And what makes you think that the numbers from a group founded on a principle of Social Justice would be any more credible?


j-mac
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I didn't say that. I said they used CBO numbers.

You watch way too much Glenn Beck btw.
 
misterman said:
I didn't say that. I said they used CBO numbers.

You watch way too much Glenn Beck btw.
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Yeah, you can stop that with the "Beck" demonization stuff now, it's beneath you I hope....But as I showed the CBO has a dismal record of getting the numbers right so why hang your hat on that?


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Yeah, you can stop that with the "Beck" demonization stuff now, it's beneath you I hope
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I didn't demonize anyone.

But as I showed the CBO has a dismal record of getting the numbers right so why hang your hat on that?
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You showed no such thing.

Nobody can say they got the healthcare numbers wrong yet, because we don't have the actual numbers. It's still in the future.

In any event, CBOs tax rate numbers weren't predictions anyway, they were past numbers.
 
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