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Limbaugh threatens to leave the country if the health-bill passes

They're happy with their doctor.



There is no bill proposing a Canadian style system.

You left off this part from the article:

And nearly three out of four said they're happy with their overall health care coverage.

Where does it say anything similar to what you claim???

The real analysis:

Poll Finds Large Majority Of Americans Happy with Their Health Insurance

According to Gallup's data, 87% of people with private insurance and 82% of people on Medicare or Medicaid say that the quality of their health care is excellent or good. Similarly, 75% of those with private plans and 74% on government-run plans rate their insurance plan as excellent or good. It's hard to convince people that change is necessary when they are pretty content with how things are, which is part of the reason Obama's job is so hard.
Poll Finds Large Majority Of Americans Happy with Their Health Insurance - The Gaggle Blog - Newsweek.com

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Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

Please link to what he said in the highlighted area that has been convienently left out.


A little honesty goes a long way. :thumbs:

I started this thread in the News/blog forum, but the mods say fit to move it here. Rush's comments were properly quoted and the links worked in the original post, but for whatever reason none of that seemed to carry over to here. So, here's a link to the original article containing Rush's quote. And here is a link to him "clarifying" his earlier statement about moving there.

Now, notice the contrast between both statements:

I don't know. I'll just tell you this, if this passes and it's five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented -- I am leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica.

And then he says...

I've had all kinds of reporters: "Are you serious? Do you really mean this?" So I've had to patiently explain today to people who do not bother to stay informed on this stuff what the genesis and the primary context of my comment was. I said, "Look, there are insurance companies who don't want to be put out of business." We've talked to them on the program. I've talked to them privately. They are establishing health care clinics with quality doctors in places like Costa Rica. They're going to continue to sell policies to people who have the ability to fly down there and get treatment. If I have to get thrown into this massive government health care insurance business and end up going to the driver's license office every day when I need to go to the doctor, yeah, I'll go to Costa Rica for treatment, not move there.

Big difference between "I'm leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica" versus "I'll go to Costa Rica for treatment."

Fact is, Rush got caught in a lie and he knows it. So, know he's back pedalling which for him is typical. Frankly, I think the entire situation is funny. He opposes government run "Obamacare"/Universal health care so much he'll go to a country that has it. Such a hypocrite. :roll:
 
You mean...you're not aware it exists?
Until now, no. Care to share?

Global wait times are on the rise...on a globe where the Dems are telling us all other industrialized nations have universal health care?
Almost all other industrial nations of the world DO have universal healthcare.

World-wide shortages are what they don't want discussed. Wait times they don't want discussed. They'd rather pass a bill that charges you today where the majority of benefits don't kick in for 5 years. They don't want any of this discussed, and your "global wait times" on the rise is an absolute joke, btw.:lol:
There is a global shortage of healthcare workers.

This fact is not in dispute and has been brought up by numerous organizations including the WHO
WHO | The global shortage of health workers and its impact

Fewer workers means longer wait times to see the workers that ARE there
 
Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

I started this thread in the News/blog forum, but the mods say fit to move it here. Rush's comments were properly quoted and the links worked in the original post, but for whatever reason none of that seemed to carry over to here. So, here's a link to the original article containing Rush's quote. And here is a link to him "clarifying" his earlier statement about moving there.

Now, notice the contrast between both statements:



And then he says...



Big difference between "I'm leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica" versus "I'll go to Costa Rica for treatment."

Fact is, Rush got caught in a lie and he knows it. So, know he's back pedalling which for him is typical. Frankly, I think the entire situation is funny. He opposes government run "Obamacare"/Universal health care so much he'll go to a country that has it. Such a hypocrite. :roll:

Your making a mountain out of a molehill. I've also heard him say many times that he might move to New Zealand.

Hell, my wife and I have told the kids dozens of times that we were going to move to Costa Rica. Will we?? It's doubtful. Were we lying? No, we were giving the kids a hard time, just like Rush was to hyper partisans like you. He likes nothing better than to get people like you so upset that you foam at the mouth, and you fall for it every time.
 
Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

Who said anything about me being upset about his wild statement? That's Rush Limbaugh for you...gotta put the shock value in just about everything he says.

It doesn't matter to me whether he was joking or not. I think it's hypercritical that he'd make such a statement in the first place while also putting down Universal health care in this or any other country whether he would move there or merely travel there to seak medical treatment. But hey...that's just the way Rush is. Your side can have him. I really don't care for the man personally.
 
Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

I started this thread in the News/blog forum, but the mods say fit to move it here. Rush's comments were properly quoted and the links worked in the original post, but for whatever reason none of that seemed to carry over to here.

Upon further review...my original post can be found at post #22, complete with the original links.

Rev, if you really want to read the complete quote might I suggest you either click on the appripriate link to the article or go to Rush's website and read the entire transcripte from 3/09/10 and 3/10/10. To that, all I can say is "mean what you say and say what you mean". Then you don't have to clarify anything to anybody.
 
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Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

Upon further review...my original post can be found at post #22, complete with the original links.

Rev, if you really want to read the complete quote might I suggest you either click on the appripriate link to the article or go to Rush's website and read the entire transcripte from 3/09/10 and 3/10/10. To that, all I can say is "mean what you say and say what you mean". Then you don't have to clarify anything to anybody.


Really? So when should I be looking for Alec Baldwin to leave the country? how about Sandra Bullock? After all they only said it 6 years ago, and still haven't left....

In any case, this thread only seems to be to bash Limbaugh, good for you, you succeeded....Fact is Limbaugh makes his money off hyperbole, and runs rings around whom ever the left can match up against him, so bash away.....


j-mac
 
When Art Bell left the country, Clear Channel set him up with millions of dollars worth of broadcasting equipment so that he could still do his radio show.

Limbaugh leaving the country will not get Limbaugh off the air. If anything it will only increase his ratings.

Yea, he might become as popular as Al Jazeera. :mrgreen:
 
Almost all other industrial nations of the world DO have universal healthcare.


And of those that do, most are looking desperately to get out of providing that HC as it bankrupts their countries, are they not?


j-mac
 
And of those that do, most are looking desperately to get out of providing that HC as it bankrupts their countries, are they not?


j-mac

no, they are not.
 
Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

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i was planning to move there for the winters
guess it will now be belize instead

he's echoing palin's position that while it is OK for them to personally benefit from socialized medicine that it is a bad measure for the country
He never benefitted from socialized medicine, you don't know what you're talking about.
 
Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

I started this thread in the News/blog forum, but the mods say fit to move it here. Rush's comments were properly quoted and the links worked in the original post, but for whatever reason none of that seemed to carry over to here. So, here's a link to the original article containing Rush's quote. And here is a link to him "clarifying" his earlier statement about moving there.

Now, notice the contrast between both statements:



And then he says...



Big difference between "I'm leaving the country. I'll go to Costa Rica" versus "I'll go to Costa Rica for treatment."

Fact is, Rush got caught in a lie and he knows it. So, know he's back pedalling which for him is typical. Frankly, I think the entire situation is funny. He opposes government run "Obamacare"/Universal health care so much he'll go to a country that has it. Such a hypocrite. :roll:




You and the huff post are the only ones lying here. :shrug:


He did not say he was moving to costa rica, ever. In context he said he would go to a country for medical care if needed where he could pay out of pocket if that was outlawed here.


Context betrays your lies. :pimpdaddy:
 
Yea, he might become as popular as Al Jazeera. :mrgreen:
If there was a talk radio show that sounded like you it would be like Limbaugh with Al Franken's message coming out of his mouth.
 
If you are going to condemn it, than you shouldn't do it.




FAIL


Sean penn volunteered to be a human shield for Iran or Iraq (i forget which). The sarcasm smiley :ssst: should have been a clue for you that I was not wishing death on sean penn for having "different political views" but rather thinking if he ever cashed a check his mout wrote, we shouldn't stop because he sits his ass in front of an Iranian nuke plant. :shrug:
 
With all that money? I can think of several. Not many people outside the US even know who any of these talk radio guys are. They're not relevant outside their borders. If they're independently wealthy any country will take them in.

If I recall, he has a criminal record.. drugs.. and that has in the past stopped many a people moving around the world. Hell Snoop Dog had to go to the highest courts in the UK to be allowed back into the UK just for a visit .. or was it Norway... one of those.

I guess he could always settle in some Central American or South American country or Africa.. his money would be welcome. Then again he would need to get over his racist traits to do that :).
 
Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

He never benefitted from socialized medicine, you don't know what you're talking about.

actually, it is the quality and low cost of medical care that caused me to decide on costa rica ahead of belize as my winter destination

and unfortunately, most of the reich wing, being chickenhawks, never experienced the socialized medicine that is practiced in the military
 
Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

actually, it is the quality and low cost of medical care that caused me to decide on costa rica ahead of belize as my winter destination

and unfortunately, most of the reich wing, being chickenhawks, never experienced the socialized medicine that is practiced in the military




hmm. I have. It for the most part, sucks. 800mg of motrin and your on your way.


:shrug:



btw do you think "reich wing" makes you sound intelligent? Just curious. :pimpdaddy:
 
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no, they are not.


This was originally posted by the AP, from the Canadian Press, Now it has been scrubbed. I wonder why?


SASKATOON — The incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association says this country's health-care system is sick and doctors need to develop a plan to cure it.
"We know that there must be change," she said. "We're all running flat out, we're all just trying to stay ahead of the immediate day-to-day demands."
The pitch for change at the conference is to start with a presentation from Dr. Robert Ouellet, the current president of the CMA, who has said there's a critical need to make Canada's health-care system patient-centred. He will present details from his fact-finding trip to Europe in January, where he met with health groups in England, Denmark, Belgium, Netherlands and France.
His thoughts on the issue are already clear. Ouellet has been saying since his return that "a health-care revolution has passed us by," that it's possible to make wait lists disappear while maintaining universal coverage and "that competition should be welcomed, not feared."
In other words, Ouellet believes there could be a role for private health-care delivery within the public system.
He has also said the Canadian system could be restructured to focus on patients if hospitals and other health-care institutions received funding based on the patients they treat, instead of an annual, lump-sum budget. This "activity-based funding" would be an incentive to provide more efficient care, he has said.
Doig says she doesn't know what a proposed "blueprint" toward patient-centred care might look like when the meeting wraps up Wednesday. She'd like to emerge with clear directions about where the association should focus efforts to direct change over the next few years. She also wants to see short-term, medium-term and long-term goals laid out.
"A short-term achievable goal would be to accelerate the process of getting electronic medical records into physicians' offices," she said. "That's one I think ought to be a priority and ought to be achievable."
A long-term goal would be getting health systems "talking to each other," so information can be quickly shared to help patients.
Doig, who has had a full-time family practice in Saskatoon for 30 years, acknowledges that when physicians have talked about changing the health-care system in the past, they've been accused of wanting an American-style structure. She insists that's not the case.
"It's not about choosing between an American system or a Canadian system," said Doig. "The whole thing is about looking at what other people do."
"That's called looking at the evidence, looking at how care is delivered and how care is paid for all around us (and) then saying 'Well, OK, that's good information. How do we make all of that work in the Canadian context? What do the Canadian people want?' "
Doig says there are some "very good things" about Canada's health-care system, but she points out that many people have stories about times when things didn't go well for them or their family.
"(Canadians) have to understand that the system that we have right now - if it keeps on going without change - is not sustainable," said Doig.
"They have to look at the evidence that's being presented and will be presented at (the meeting) and realize what Canada's doctors are trying to tell you, that you can get better care than what you're getting and we all have to participate in the discussion around how do we do that and of course how do we pay for it."
Dr. Anne Doig says patients are getting less than optimal care and she adds that physicians from across the country - who will gather in Saskatoon on Sunday for their annual meeting - recognize that changes must be made.

Canada Considering Moving Away From Socialized Health Care - Fish Wrapper Will Ignore | The Dead Fish Wrapper Watch

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The National Health Service is not free health for the majority of able-bodied adults. ''Contributions'' are deducted from worker paychecks, and this payment can no longer be considered meager. Roughly 10 percent is deducted at the source. During the Administration of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, the idea of socialized medicine has been chipped away at so that the original program is barely recognizable.

Although doctor visits are still free, each prescription item costs $:2.50 ($4.25). As for dental and ophthalmological services, there is a fee for everything, except the eye examination. Dentures cost $:100 ($170) and up, and anything other than basic ''National Health specs'' (which resemble the old Granny glasses) are quite costly. Lenses and frames may be charged together or separately, and it behooves one to compare prices.

Of course, there are many exceptions. Health care and medication are free for babies and young children and also for old-age pensioners. People needing continuous medication may also receive it free. There is also a system in which a flat rate is paid for all medical necessities, similar to certain American health maintenance organization policies. Indeed, many citizens also carry private medical insurance to supplement the National Health coverage. Most general practitioners are ''panel'' doctors, working within the national system, although an increasing number of private doctors are not affiliated with it.

As for the level of medical services received, they are of the finest quality. The Walsgrave Hospital in Coventry, England, has been acclaimed as the finest hospital in Europe. However, the waiting time for non-emergency surgery can be years.

One of the drawbacks to the British system, as I see it, is that when hospitalization is required, one is operated on by a hospital surgeon or specialist. One's general practitioner is not a surgeon. Thus the doctor who is most familiar with the patient's life style, family situation and general health background does not perform the operation. This has psychological and possible physical consequences for the patient.

As the need for more available and affordable medical services grows in this country, the British health system seems to be moving toward a more capitalist, private pay-for-care structure. Both systems have their strengths and weaknesses, and it would be a tough call as to which is preferable. LOUISE SIMMONS Harrison, N.Y., Sept. 12, 1988

Britain Chips Away at Socialized Medicine - Letter - NYTimes.com


and finally a comprehensive look by real doc's, not those that Obama hands white coats to for the photo.


In August, 2003, Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP) announced with great fanfare that some 8,000 physicians and medical students have endorsed a Proposal by the Physicians’ Working Group for Single-Payer National Health Insurance. This was published in JAMA, along with two favorable editorials, although the AMA is officially opposed to a “single-payer” system.[1]
This is the latest effort in a long march toward socialized medicine that began with President Truman more than five decades ago. Incremental steps have brought huge cost increases, burgeoning numbers of uninsured patients, a proliferation of bureaucratic rules and draconian criminal penalties, a deterioration in the quality of care, physician demoralization, patient anger, and dire predictions of impending bankruptcy of federal entitlement programs.
Small steps toward the goal having had so many adverse side effects, a “great leap forward”[2] is now proposed to enact the program once and for all–no going back. The current problems in American medicine are not attributed to past actions, but rather to stopping short of the goal of forcing all Americans into a single, uniform program.
Perhaps the advocates for this “giant leap” have forgotten the origin of the phrase “Great Leap Forward”: the 1958-1960 fiasco launched by Mao Zedong, which resulted in from 10 to 30 million deaths from starvation in China.[3]
We should certainly take the basic precaution of looking before we leap.

Why the United States Should Reject Socialized Medicine


j-mac
 
Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

hmm. I have. It for the most part, sucks. 800mg of motrin and your on your way.


:shrug:



btw do you think "reich wing" makes you sound intelligent? Just curious. :pimpdaddy:

I heard on here one time the perfect descriptor of about every one of justabubba's posts: "bargument".:lol:
 
FAIL


Sean penn volunteered to be a human shield for Iran or Iraq (i forget which). The sarcasm smiley :ssst: should have been a clue for you that I was not wishing death on sean penn for having "different political views" but rather thinking if he ever cashed a check his mout wrote, we shouldn't stop because he sits his ass in front of an Iranian nuke plant. :shrug:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...s-seen-eating-less-salt-4.html#post1058505087
 
He ran from the military during the Vietnam Conflict so it wouldn't surprize me to see him run now.
 
Re: Limibaugh: I'll move to Costa Rica...

I heard on here one time the perfect descriptor of about every one of justabubba's posts: "bargument".:lol:

this is all you can come up with to counter my posts?
 
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