Winnb

I'm asking anybody on the forum. Whoever wants to answer is fine with me.

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Finished a book "Don't Tread on Me" 400+ years of America's fighting men and women."

Many laughed at the tea party crowd during our intitial revolution as well. Many were confused like Winnb to begin the thread needing a platform or an easily searched Google sought out site that will book out platform.

The original tea tossers weren't a platform either..and both movements came from the same outrage.....lack of representation.

Why do you need a platform...a list of grievances? Why does it have to be structured thus? Cuz....we might be all reading this in history classes in the next century, nobody took the colonies' tea protests seriously either, their leaders were dismissed as silly and inexperienced as well.

Would anyone like to borrow my old history book...find out what happened to those who needed to draw notes on their hands, those who were laughed at, laughed past.

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Winnb

You didn't answer the question. Actually you didn't answer anything.

I'm asking what the platform is for the tea party. That's it. A simple, honest, question. I know and agree with some of the things they're against, but that's not a platform. The GOP, Dems, Libertarians, Reform Party, Green Party, hell every political party and movement has a platform of some type. This isn't a new idea.

What are the Tea Party people against and what are they for? How would they govern and what would they change about our government? What cuts would they make in spending, what are their stances on social issues, abortion, gay rights, illegal immigration? Etc etc....

That's what makes up a party platform. It's the "business model" of how they would govern or how they want others to govern. That's all it is.

It ain't rocket science.

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Lack of representation is my answer.

It doesn't have one, it's a response to Obama and Congress' platform. It's not a political party, it's a grass roots movement, many of them don't have platforms. Their angry unrepresented voters. They feel their lives are being interfered with by the government, that it's become a government not governed by the governed but governed by itself.

Obviously...as Google even doesn't have it...there is no primary voice...no sole representative, no main issue now that health care is sinking.

No grass movement is asked to spell out platforms like this, please. Read some history, Winnb, our nation filled with ground swell political movements. Our very colonies had a host of grievances, one wonders whether someone like you went looking for a structured platform with a list of policy positions. Our nation's hisotry filled with such, our most recent the anti-war crowd from the Bush days. Gone noe even though both wars remain engaged, the anti-war folk were angry, felt unrepresented, felt powerless to stop what they truly considered an immoral act by their President and government. Anyone ask them for a list of policy platforms?

What if it's not a political party?

But in context and looking at history and precedent, your query here is naive and uninformed.

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Winnb

"Grass movements" are asked to spell out platforms ALL of the time. How can they be a movement if no one knows what they're for or against? They just come off as a bunch of complainers.

What exactly does the tea party want? And yes I know they're anti-Obama and anti-Congress. But what the hell does that mean?

You seem to be stating that opposition to the Obama Health Care package was part of a platform, maybe? So that's a good start. Now, what else?

I'm sure the tea partiers are against government spending. Now there's a whole lot of spending going on, so which spending are they against?

The devil is in the details Mr. Martel. Always...

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So what happens if Martel can't tell you?

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reefedjib

Then there can be no more Tea Parties. :P

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Rassales

Grass Roots movements that don't have platforms don't get anything done. Our political parties can't really appeal to the Tea Baggers because they don't actually want anything besides "not this." They all want something different. That's not a political movement. That's a bunch of whiners sitting in a circle and holding hands.

Winnb

Here's my point to all of this. Right now I see the tea party movement as a good thing. I'm always in favor of people protesting and demanding a better government. We need more involvement in politics from our citizens, not less.

But the tea party movement seems like they're just anti-government. And it seems they're only anti-government now that Obama and the Dems are running things. I never saw them or heard about them when Bush and the GOP were spending us down the river.

It makes me believe this movement is nothing more than an "anti-Democrat" movement. And if that's the case then what's the point of being involved in something that is nothing more than more partisan politics, more finger pointing, more of the blame game. I'm sick of that.

That's all I'm saying. And that's why I'm asking for specifics and details.

I hope that makes sense.

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What they said about tea hoisters in Boston too. Again, your being unaware of American history inspires your question.

To be heard. To explain to the government that the way out of this economic crisis isn't trillions in debt and public health care takeover.

It was part of no platform I know of and.....You answered your own question...."I'm sure the tea partiers are against government spending."

"There's a whole lot of spending going on" doesn't answer your question? You had a man just elected President making promises of job creation, change, transparency, he lied about all of it. You taking his jive hook line and sinker and then electing him started the anger, his broken promise and broken promise stirred the pot, the behind door secrecy and the belief that government can spend us out of this economic turmoil the bottom line ground swell.

What nonsense, again, you are so uninformed here. The devil hasn't been in the details in a numner of grass movements inclusing the very first tea party. One could have asked any one of the tea drowning boston harbor colonists what their detail or platform was and they wouldn't be able to tell you. The last straw in anger, their blood boiling over concerning misrepresentation and independent government. Today, the tea baggers insist on transparency as was promised, representation rather than misrepresentation, and for the wrong belief that government grows the economy to be extinguished.

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