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Is America at war, or not?

War for oil. Maybe. Maybe not. You mention energy policy. What should your country's energy policy be? If it makes sense maybe my country will adopt it.

Producing enough energy for itself. Living within our means. These used to be standard concepts here. How about there?
 
The problem is you avoid the question. Would you shoot bin Laden if you could? The answer is plainly...NO.


If he attacked me I would.
 
America is at war. Our president isn't. Something basically wrong with that.
 
The TV says we're at war. But from what I can tell, we're at the mall.
 
I think we are seeing these contradictions in policy because the war we are fighting should not be labeled as such.

Terrorism is not an act of war but a criminal act. It should be pursued and prosecuted as such.

We have handled what I would call terror similar way before with other groups. For instance, the KKK. Would anyone suggest we go around bombing houses to rid the US of KKK members?
 
You Gentlemen appear late to this party. The War Powers Act is engaged here in Afghanistan. It allows Obama to capture and detain enemies abroad, he's expanding the prison at Bagram as we speak. It allows him to strike Reapers and Predator drones into Pakistan. It allows him to troop surge or withdraw, he is the Commander in Chief. We can invade any nation, Somalia, the Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Iraq in seeking to destroy or capture al-Qaeda or any of its' tentacles. We have the same policy regarding the Taliban or any who host or protect these Jihadists.

A Declaration of War isn't necessary for a war to be waged Constitutionally since 1973, where have all of you been? Please look up the WPA on Google. Note, it was written to fulfill the original Framer's intent, it was to give war powers BACK to the Congress after post WW2 had proven in Korea and Vietnam that Congress' lack of a declaration clearly wasn't keeping us out of wars.

Ya'll get this....yes? You've read the War Powers Act?
 
Well said!

Thank you. Thank you very much. :2bow:

I bet that I am only one of a handful of people here that actually know what a catawba (catalpa) is. :cool:

(Of course now they will all google catawba and say they did, but what-ev-uhh. Maybe I assisted in raising the collective IQ a point or two. :rofl)

Catawba worms make GREAT catfish bait.

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OK... station break's over. Back to war and all that stuff.
 
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Thank you. Thank you very much. :2bow:

I bet that I am only one of a handful of people here that actually know what a catawba (catalpa) is. :cool:

(Of course now they will all google catawba and say they did, but what-ev-uhh.

They was also a tribe of Native Americans known as the Catawba, which meant river people.

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The TV says we're at war. But from what I can tell, we're at the mall.


I think retailers would beg to differ.


Retail at all levels is suffering as consumer confidence crumbles. Projections for 2009 are grim and retalers are scaling back inventory and staff, but there are other measures for weathering the downturn that are worth consideration

2008 Retail Recap, Predictions for 2009


Sorry Cap, we ain't at the mall either.


j-mac
 
I love how people say 'we must take the moral high ground to avoid being like the terrorists' Last time I checked we didn't hijack 4 airliners and use them as guided missiles. Executing terrorists isn't succumbing to their level, it's a necessary step in ridding the world of evil.

Sure, but first we have to prove they actually are terrorists. We have to say exactly what they are guilty of, and prove it. A number of the Gitmo detainees have been deemed completely innocent and freed.

Duh.
 
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