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    Re: Criminals won't obey gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Again, innate, i.e. what we are originally born with, things are learned over the years that silence certain parts of free will, depending on that society, for better or worse. We know we have needs, and desire to fullfill them, what extents we will take it to is where our initial freedom ends.
    Ahh O.K. now I see what you're saying. Don't 100% agree but I get ya.

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    True anarchy is the absence of societal law and enforcement, thus, the strong would be at liberty to prey on the weak, anarchy could only work if 100% of the population had benevolent desires.
    Alright, The way it was written, I thought you we're suggesting that people trying to impose over someone else was Anarchy.



    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    The definitions are similar, I admit that, but the connotations are what mean the most when defining the scope of law. I bolded the connotations that have the most appropriate meaning when determining the state of man from a philosophical point of view.
    The definitions are the same. It's like comparing the same object in two languages or cultures. Some cultures attach more/less to the definition, but in essence it is the same thing. And, no offense, but just because you bold the connotations that have most appropriate meaning (to you) does not mean everyone else will accept that as the best idea.


    But overall, I think I see what you're saying, and I like the concept that we have Freedom but with it comes responsibility. my humble opinion, constructive criticism of sorts, use different words besides Liberty and Freedom to compare the two ideas you present, words with a clear definition of what you are looking for. Off the top of my head I can't think of what those words might be but you're on the right track with innate, Free Will, Rghts, etc.

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    Re: Criminals won't obey gun laws

    Criminals won't obey gun laws? Then I suggest you arm yourselves.

    Mossberg and Smith and Wesson can make criminals obey, I saw it I saw it with my own two eyes.
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    Re: Criminals won't obey gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Criminals won't obey gun laws? Then I suggest you arm yourselves.

    Mossberg and Smith and Wesson can make criminals obey, I saw it I saw it with my own two eyes.
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    Re: Criminals won't obey gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Criminals won't obey gun laws? Then I suggest you arm yourselves.

    Mossberg and Smith and Wesson can make criminals obey, I saw it I saw it with my own two eyes.
    Crook: [during a diner robbery] What's you doing, you pighead sucka?

    Harry Callahan: Every day for the past ten years, Loretta here's been giving me a large black coffee- except today she gives me a large black coffee and it has sugar in it. Alotta sugar. I just came back to complain.

    Crook: Say what, sucka?

    Harry Callahan: Well, we're not just gonna let you walk out of here.

    Crook: Who'se we sucka?

    Harry Callahan: Smith and Wesson... and me.

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    Re: Criminals won't obey gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Crook: [during a diner robbery] What's you doing, you pighead sucka?

    Harry Callahan: Every day for the past ten years, Loretta here's been giving me a large black coffee- except today she gives me a large black coffee and it has sugar in it. Alotta sugar. I just came back to complain.

    Crook: Say what, sucka?

    Harry Callahan: Well, we're not just gonna let you walk out of here.

    Crook: Who'se we sucka?

    Harry Callahan: Smith and Wesson... and me.
    inb4 Politically Correct people claim this story to be racist.

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    Re: Criminals won't obey gun laws

    For all the anti-gun people, here is a collection of essays that are worth the read. If nothing else, they are very thought provoking. I think this man has some of the most articulate arguments for gun ownership and carrying.

    http://munchkinwrangler.wordpress.com

    One of the best starts out like this.

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

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    why the gun is civilization. the munchkin wrangler.
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    Re: Criminals won't obey gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Easy Target View Post
    For all the anti-gun people, here is a collection of essays that are worth the read. If nothing else, they are very thought provoking. I think this man has some of the most articulate arguments for gun ownership and carrying.

    the munchkin wrangler.

    One of the best starts out like this.



    why the gun is civilization. the munchkin wrangler.
    LOL, Love it. Where was this quote originally from?

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    Re: Criminals won't obey gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post

    Mossberg and Smith and Wesson can make criminals obey, I saw it I saw it with my own two eyes.
    So does two nice hungry vicious dogs. They're great add-ons to a gun.
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    Re: Criminals won't obey gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    So does two nice hungry vicious dogs. They're great add-ons to a gun.
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    Re: Criminals won't obey gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Gun control advocates always amuse me, do they ever realize that they make those they believe they are protecting more vulnerable?
    Come on now,these are the same people that want to be humane by putting the Gitmo crew into the American prison system....where they will be ripped to shreds.
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