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    National ID card still a bad idea

    While health care has been the main focus of most people let us not forget about other statist programs that are once again rearing its ugly head.

    Officials in other states eager to take advantage of the massive information database that would be created by this de facto national identification card system, claimed that states failing to come on board were harming the fight against terrorism. Proponents of the REAL ID rarely fail to remind their audiences that several of the 911 hijackers possessed state-issued drivers licenses procured through false information (as if having Uncle Sam enforce a single, national standard for driversí licenses would magically prevent such problems from ever recurring).
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    Re: National ID card still a bad idea

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    While health care has been the main focus of most people let us not forget about other statist programs that are once again rearing its ugly head.



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    It may be too late already. I just renewed my driver's license, and guess what? The new one has a bar code on it.

    A good friend of mine is now living in Lake Chapala, in Mexico, which has 40,000 Americans in it, making it the largest American expat community in the world. People are not subjected to government intrusion and other crap there. The idea of moving there is beginning to look better every day. My wife and I are talking about retiring there instead of staying here. But, who knows, maybe in 6 years, when I retire, it will be just as bad there as it is here, so my plans are not set in stone yet. My biggest wish? To live in a place where the government tells me that my life is my own damn business, and none of theirs.
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    Re: National ID card still a bad idea

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It may be too late already. I just renewed my driver's license, and guess what? The new one has a bar code on it.

    A good friend of mine is now living in Lake Chapala, in Mexico, which has 40,000 Americans in it, making it the largest American expat community in the world. People are not subjected to government intrusion and other crap there. The idea of moving there is beginning to look better every day. My wife and I are talking about retiring there instead of staying here. But, who knows, maybe in 6 years, when I retire, it will be just as bad there as it is here, so my plans are not set in stone yet. My biggest wish? To live in a place where the government tells me that my life is my own damn business, and none of theirs.
    I've contemplated moving to the Phillipenes.
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    Re: National ID card still a bad idea

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It may be too late already. I just renewed my driver's license, and guess what? The new one has a bar code on it.

    A good friend of mine is now living in Lake Chapala, in Mexico, which has 40,000 Americans in it, making it the largest American expat community in the world. People are not subjected to government intrusion and other crap there. The idea of moving there is beginning to look better every day. My wife and I are talking about retiring there instead of staying here. But, who knows, maybe in 6 years, when I retire, it will be just as bad there as it is here, so my plans are not set in stone yet. My biggest wish? To live in a place where the government tells me that my life is my own damn business, and none of theirs.
    Mine expires in 2013 maybe we will get our wish in 2012. Ive also considered getting a passport but now it doesnt seem like a good idea. BTW I thought you were already retired.


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    I've contemplated moving to the Phillipenes.
    I thought Australia would be closest to a free society.
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    Re: National ID card still a bad idea

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Mine expires in 2013 maybe we will get our wish in 2012. Ive also considered getting a passport but now it doesnt seem like a good idea. BTW I thought you were already retired.




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    Re: National ID card still a bad idea

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Mine expires in 2013 maybe we will get our wish in 2012. Ive also considered getting a passport but now it doesnt seem like a good idea. BTW I thought you were already retired.




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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
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    Re: National ID card still a bad idea

    In Canada, provinces have started creating ID for health care and driver's licenses that have RFID in them. Not only can these be theoretically read by anyone who has a reader, they are trackable by satellite.

    I really don't understand why this technology is necessary, other than to intrude further into people's lives. Those who want to circumvent the system always find a way. "Security" is such a lame old excuse for "taking away my freedom bit by bit".

    My long term plan is to leave North America permanently though, so I'm not too worried about the distant future.

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    This is a good idea for valid security and government service reasons and will help prevent all manner of fraud. I do not understand the level of paranoia that this suggestion evokes in people.

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    Re: National ID card still a bad idea

    Nobody wants the government tracking them ....but it never amaze me how these people will foam at the mouth at this notion ...and dutifully hand over their phone numbers at Home Depot for example to buy a nail.

    Always the case with the right ...they can always rationalize when the corporations screw them in the very same way and worse ...than the government would.

    Do you actually know what that credit card company is doing with your personal information?

    Do you notice that even with all the technology in the world its getting harder and harder to get simple information from more and more companies ...because to get that information requires much more personal information from you?

    Wanna know what our products costs ...fill out this form first!

    Soon this practice will become standard as more and more companies start to use this tactic.

    Finally .... I heard nothing but praises from bush when he was busy listening in on pillow talk from many of our GI's and US citizens.

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