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Old 06-26-09, 09:47 PM   #1
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Obama: Bush's same ol secrecy measures

Bush's 3rd term continues:

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MSNBC reports that the Obama administration has denied its request for the names of individuals who have visited the White House since the Inauguration. Additionally, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington announced today that it is suing the Department of Homeland Security after the non-partisan organization was denied a request for records of visits of “leading coal company executives.”
Think Progress FLASHBACK: Obama Promised To End ‘Secret Meetings’ And Make The White House The ‘People’s House’
Obama blocks access to White House visitor list - White House- msnbc.com

Yes. That's ThinkProgress. Not a good sign for the President when ThinkProgress is reporting that.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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Old 06-26-09, 10:11 PM   #2
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Re: Obama: Bush's same ol secrecy measures

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Bush's 3rd term continues:



Think Progress FLASHBACK: Obama Promised To End ‘Secret Meetings’ And Make The White House The ‘People’s House’
Obama blocks access to White House visitor list - White House- msnbc.com

Yes. That's ThinkProgress. Not a good sign for the President when ThinkProgress is reporting that.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
It is kind of crazy that the people that hated bush can now hate obama for the exact same reasons.

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Old 06-26-09, 10:15 PM   #3
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It is kind of crazy that the people that hated bush can now hate obama for the exact same reasons.
Why is that crazy?

If I disliked Bush for policies A, B, C and D and then Obama goes and does policies A, B, C, and D, why wouldn't I dislike him on a rational level?

At this point, the only real thing I like about Obama is that he views science as something other than a tool to kill people with.
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It is kind of crazy that the people that hated bush can now hate obama for the exact same reasons.
What is even crazier is the number of people willing to excuse and overlook Dear Leader's imitations of the lesser qualities of Bush while condemning those same qualities in Bush.
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Old 06-26-09, 11:11 PM   #5
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Re: Obama: Bush's same ol secrecy measures

It is more irony than crazy. The bait and switch perpetrated on a global scale.
Peer pressure mass euphoria used as a distraction while the trojan horse establishes the police state foundation.


.Readiness Exercise 1984 (REX-84)
Operation Garden Plot


Stalin
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None of it happened overnight.

Two of these concentration camps are quite close to me.

Where are these camps?
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Wow with the conspiracy theories and fearmongering....
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Wow with the conspiracy theories and fearmongering....
Wow with the lack of history and understanding.

Secrecy as a general rule is antithetical to good government.
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What is even crazier is the number of people willing to excuse and overlook Dear Leader's imitations of the lesser qualities of Bush while condemning those same qualities in Bush.
Well you know, he inherited everything and ......
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Re: Obama: Bush's same ol secrecy measures

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Why is that crazy?

If I disliked Bush for policies A, B, C and D and then Obama goes and does policies A, B, C, and D, why wouldn't I dislike him on a rational level?

At this point, the only real thing I like about Obama is that he views science as something other than a tool to kill people with.


Hmm did we withdraw from the mideast?
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Hmm did we withdraw from the mideast?
That's code for cutting military spending.
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