GOP Congressman Say Obama's Hesitance on Iran Responsible for Violence

goldendog · 06-24-09, 02:40 AM

The congressman comments that the op refers too is just as delerious and disgusting as (Fox News) great entertainer (the crap master)Nugents actions.

This congressman is just spewing more bile.

jallman · 06-24-09, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by goldendog

Hey Chis Mathews had the smarts and intelligence to recognize a good person when he sees it.

Now Beck's and Hannity's love of Nugent and Fox News love of Nugent is quite another thing.

Personally I think Nugent is a fine representative for the current values of the RightWingers and he should be their representative at all future Rightwing rallies.

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So Ted Nugent roams a concert stage while toting automatic weapons, calls Barack Obama “a piece of —–” and says he told Obama to suck on one of his machine-guns. He also calls Hillary Clinton a “worthless bitch” and Dianne Feinstein a “worthless whore.”

That Nugent, he’s a man’s man. He talks the talk and walks the walk, right?

Except when it was time to register for the draft during the Vietnam era. By his own admission, Nugent stopped all forms of personal hygiene for a month and showed up for his draft board physical in pants caked with his own urine and feces, winning a deferment. Creative!

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Perhaps Beck and Hannity should have check out this loons background before the hump his leg and invite him to represent them a rallies.

Ted "the crap master" Nugent.

Alright then, I take it we're open to nastiness from the pundits and entertainers now, too. Can't possibly win this one if it's about who is the nastier.

Way to move the goal posts around. I knew you couldn't confine yourself to any boundaries when there's a pile of **** to fling just on the other side.

formerroadie · 06-24-09, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jallman

Premium health insurance can be bought for about 180 a month for a healthy person up to about age 35. So no, it's not bs. Your experience does not equate to evidence.

A more just society isn't one that robs the responsible of what they earn to give it to those who did not earn it nor have any entitlement to it.

You problem is you equate "responsible" with those with money. there are plenty out there that are "responsible" but just can't catch a break. Once again, you don't want to understand poverty.

wbreese91 · 06-24-09, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by formerroadie

You problem is you equate "responsible" with those with money. there are plenty out there that are "responsible" but just can't catch a break. Once again, you don't want to understand poverty.

For the poor people out there whom next statement does not apply to, I'm sorry.

Grow up! Most people who are poor are poor because they made poor financial choices. Whether that means they overloaded 15 credit cards when they were 18 or they took out a loan they couldn't pay back today, they still demonstrated a lack of financial reponsibility. How is it fair that those of us who have managed our money responsibly should have to pay for their lack of responsibility?

jallman · 06-24-09, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by formerroadie

You problem is you equate "responsible" with those with money.

No, I equate responsible choices with being responsible.

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there are plenty out there that are "responsible" but just can't catch a break. Once again, you don't want to understand poverty.

There's the problem right there...life isn't about "catching a break". It is about making proper choices and creating the "breaks" for yourself.

I understand poverty just fine having lived in poverty all through college and afterward just to better myself.

Lopettaa · 06-24-09, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by formerroadie

Why is it that Republicans want to blame everything on Obama even when there is no connection? How does this Congressman rate or have the gaul to make such statements? Stupid.

GOP Congressman Says Obama's Hesitance On Iran Responsible For Violence (VIDEO)

They do this because some people are stupid enought to believe it.

Objective Voice · 06-24-09, 03:22 PM

Frankly, I don't understand what people (Reps/Conservs) expect President Obama to do about the Iranian presidential election. They make it seem like our president has such great influence over another country's electoral process. We don't!

Moreover, it's not like whatever we (the U.S.) says is going to change the vote count nor should it.

It's like this, folks...

We speak of democracy, but it would be very hypocritical of us to get involved in another country's electoral process. And it's not like any other country came to our aid during the 2000/2004 presidental elections. Some may have been very concerned over who the next U.S. president would be just so they'd know who they had to deal with for the next four years, but that was it. Ironically, the world now finds itself in that same position...in "waiting" mode.

The situation unfolding (barely) before our eye in Iran is substaintually different. What you have here is social, political, religious but above all human rights issues all changing, all evolving in Iran at the same time. How does one on the outside looking in step into that w/o fully understand how events will unfold?

I think our president has done the right thing on this matter to date. He has condemned the violence from the beginning and he has cautioned on the possibility of voter fraud. What more can he say on these two key issues w/o risking further hampering international relations between the U.S. and Iran, i.e., the Iranian government (and its religious leaders) blaming the U.S. for insighting the violence in their own country further damaging U.S./Iranian relations?

This is one of those issues you ultimately have to let play out before you can really do anything other than highly suggest a full recount* and condemn the violence.

*A full recount is something I'm sure many people want the President to come out and state, but honestly if he were to make such a statement it would wrongfully feed the perception that the U.S. is "meddling" in the electoral process of a foreign country, and that's NOT something this country should give any ammunition towards. Condemn the violence, but that's it. All the world can do is hope that the demonstrations push the Iranian government into calling for a full recount at the very least; and at the most that their ideology changes to listen to the voice of their people more.

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goldendog Banned Join Date: May 2009 Last Seen: 12-02-09 03:13 PM Posts: 4,695 Thanks: 674 Thanked 475 Times in 338 Posts Lean: Private	Re: GOP Congressman Say Obama's Hesitance on Iran Responsible for Violence The congressman comments that the op refers too is just as delerious and disgusting as (Fox News) great entertainer (the crap master)Nugents actions. This congressman is just spewing more bile.

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Objective Voice Educator Join Date: Apr 2008 Last Seen: 03-19-10 04:05 PM Location: Huntsville, AL (USA) Posts: 1,063 Thanks: 161 Thanked 289 Times in 197 Posts Lean: Moderate Gender:	Re: GOP Congressman Say Obama's Hesitance on Iran Responsible for Violence Frankly, I don't understand what people (Reps/Conservs) expect President Obama to do about the Iranian presidential election. They make it seem like our president has such great influence over another country's electoral process. We don't! Moreover, it's not like whatever we (the U.S.) says is going to change the vote count nor should it. It's like this, folks... We speak of democracy, but it would be very hypocritical of us to get involved in another country's electoral process. And it's not like any other country came to our aid during the 2000/2004 presidental elections. Some may have been very concerned over who the next U.S. president would be just so they'd know who they had to deal with for the next four years, but that was it. Ironically, the world now finds itself in that same position...in "waiting" mode. The situation unfolding (barely) before our eye in Iran is substaintually different. What you have here is social, political, religious but above all human rights issues all changing, all evolving in Iran at the same time. How does one on the outside looking in step into that w/o fully understand how events will unfold? I think our president has done the right thing on this matter to date. He has condemned the violence from the beginning and he has cautioned on the possibility of voter fraud. What more can he say on these two key issues w/o risking further hampering international relations between the U.S. and Iran, i.e., the Iranian government (and its religious leaders) blaming the U.S. for insighting the violence in their own country further damaging U.S./Iranian relations? This is one of those issues you ultimately have to let play out before you can really do anything other than highly suggest a full recount* and condemn the violence. *A full recount is something I'm sure many people want the President to come out and state, but honestly if he were to make such a statement it would wrongfully feed the perception that the U.S. is "meddling" in the electoral process of a foreign country, and that's NOT something this country should give any ammunition towards. Condemn the violence, but that's it. All the world can do is hope that the demonstrations push the Iranian government into calling for a full recount at the very least; and at the most that their ideology changes to listen to the voice of their people more.
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