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    Re: Is Trump alienating the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Has he succeeded in alienating the fourth estate?
    The "ing" instead of "ed" on the alienate makes me scratch my head a bit. The media, by and large, have been very negative and sour on Trump for quite some time. I don't think anything he's doing now is straining that relationship in any significant degree more than it already is.
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    Re: Is Trump alienating the media?

    the better question - is the media alienating millions of Americans

    I'm not a fan of Trump, but I do see over the top bias in their reporting of him.

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    Re: Is Trump alienating the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the better question - is the media alienating millions of Americans

    I'm not a fan of Trump, but I do see over the top bias in their reporting of him.
    How so? Do you think they should ignore the leaks and the lies? What do you think the job of the media is? To ignore those things?
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    Re: Is Trump alienating the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    That's what worries me. If we get through Trump's reign in one piece and return to having a normal, sane president, then overall ratings could go down. And I don't see that ending well.
    I think we may have hit a point where one of the societal cats got let out of the bag, and it's going to be difficult to get back in.

    IOW, nonsense may be here to stay.

    However after 4 years of Trump, there may be an opening for candidate that runs on "telling the truth". Seriously.

    "You've been promised the sky, and it's been all lies. I can't promise nirvana, but I will always be straight with you, and work my hardest for you. It's not as easy as you've been led to believe. Only by confronting our problems directly and honestly, will we prevail. It's time to dump the grandiose rhetoric, and roll-up our sleeves and get to an honest day's work. Will you work with me, America?"

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    Re: Is Trump alienating the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    How so? Do you think they should ignore the leaks and the lies? What do you think the job of the media is?
    apparently their job was to give him as easy a path as possible to winning the gop nomination, then attacking him with everything they got after that happened.

    the media played pretend with both Bush and Obama - press conferences were highly scripted engagements in make believe. that has went on my entire adult life...until now.

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    Re: Is Trump alienating the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Surely by now you've seen Trump's latest news conference, or at least parts of it.

    Has he succeeded in alienating the fourth estate? If so, will he get away with having done so? just how powerful is the media?

    What do you think?
    I have no idea what you're talking about.

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    Which he subsequently "cleaned up" to this.

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    But the whole "is he alienating the media" question is settled and frankly kind of irrelevant compared to the question of the purpose of such alienation down the road. Trump wants to be able to delegitimize the news so badly that when bad job reports, bad polls or the result of a crisis happens, he'll just dismiss them as fake. He's already done one of those things.

    He wants to be the sole pipeline of reality so he can claim that everything under him is great even when all the numbers and statistics point to the opposite.

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    Re: Is Trump alienating the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I have no idea what you're talking about.

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    Which he subsequently "cleaned up" to this.

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    But the whole "is he alienating the media" question is settled and frankly kind of irrelevant compared to the question of the purpose of such alienation down the road. Trump wants to be able to delegitimize the news so badly that when bad job reports, bad polls or the result of a crisis happens, he'll just dismiss them as fake. He's already done one of those things.

    He wants to be the sole pipeline of reality so he can claim that everything under him is great even when all the numbers and statistics point to the opposite.
    and will the American people be foolish enough to fall for it? I don't think so, but then I didn't think they would be so foolish as to elect Trump, either.
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    Re: Is Trump alienating the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and will the American people be foolish enough to fall for it? I don't think so, but then I didn't think they would be so foolish as to elect Trump, either.
    60 million people not only fall for it, they celebrate it. Trump just declared a free press the "enemy of the people," and every supporter on this board will eat it up with a spoon and ask for seconds.

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    Re: Is Trump alienating the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    60 million people not only fall for it, they celebrate it. Trump just declared a free press the "enemy of the people," and every supporter on this board will eat it up with a spoon and ask for seconds.
    What is truly frightening about that is you're probably right.
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    Re: Is Trump alienating the media?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Surely by now you've seen Trump's latest news conference, or at least parts of it.

    Has he succeeded in alienating the fourth estate? If so, will he get away with having done so? just how powerful is the media?

    What do you think?
    Trump alienated the media some time back when he trampled on its sacred cows and refused to accept its dictates. And when they turned out to be way more thin skinned than he is, he was smart enough to capitalize on that. His approval ratings may be lower than normal for an early Presidency but the MSM's approval ratings are so deep in the bottom it is laughable that they think they have any credibility at all.
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