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    Re: hating the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Ok...we have all heard the Right calling the Left Libtards, Commies and unAmerican Muslim sympathizers for years. Now we have the Left rightfully calling the Right out as partisan hacks who would hand the country to Putin if it meant keeping their Right Wing fantasies alive.

    Do you hate the other side?


    Why?

    I'll start. Even before this Trump fiasco, I developed a strong hate for the Religious Right. I'd probably be a Republican (at least up until Trump showed up) if not for them. Their constant insistence on pushing their religious values on the rest of us has been turning me off for about 20 years, and it's only getting worse. I hate those bastards.
    The zealous left is just as bad if the RR is your concern. Both parties in a general sense attempt to codify their values into law. This is what folks do, right or wrong.
    I think civilization fails or succeeds based on good values governing society. I believe that to be a political fact if you will.
    Libertarians are probably the least guilty of this, but I think their ideology fails for this very reason.
    Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.

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    Re: hating the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by Cable View Post
    The zealous left is just as bad if the RR is your concern. Both parties in a general sense attempt to codify their values into law. This is what folks do, right or wrong.
    I think civilization fails or succeeds based on good values governing society. I believe that to be a political fact if you will.
    Libertarians are probably the least guilty of this, but I think their ideology fails for this very reason.
    I'm definitely not a fan of the zealot Left. And, if they had any power, I would be railing against them right now, which I did back in the Obama days when they were whining about bathroom rights and forcing people to bake them cakes. But, those days are long gone now. Obviously.

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    Re: hating the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'm definitely not a fan of the zealot Left. And, if they had any power, I would be railing against them right now, which I did back in the Obama days when they were whining about bathroom rights and forcing people to bake them cakes. But, those days are long gone now. Obviously.
    Lol but the bathroom thing and the cake thing lives on....

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    Re: hating the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by Partsguy57 View Post
    Hmm I thought they were a force before 1980?? I thought they had a big hand in the founding of the country.... wrong??

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    Goldwater pushed them away back in the 60's. Nixon certainly never bothered bringing them home. Reagan, however, recognized the benefit of pandering to them, and Bush Jr took it to a whole new level.

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    Re: hating the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by Partsguy57 View Post
    Hmm I thought they were a force before 1980?? I thought they had a big hand in the founding of the country.... wrong??

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    No, Patrick Henry was a professing Christian, but most of the founders were Deists, Unitarians or other. Have proof to the contrary?
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    Moreover billionaires will not be tempted to use their office to enrich themselves.

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    Re: hating the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Goldwater pushed them away back in the 60's. Nixon certainly never bothered bringing them home. Reagan, however, recognized the benefit of pandering to them, and Bush Jr took it to a whole new level.
    Okay, did they have any effect in the founding of the country?

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    Re: hating the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by Partsguy57 View Post
    Lol but the bathroom thing and the cake thing lives on....

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    But, it's just a minor blip on the problem scale. And, they'll be lucky to keep any of those rights by the time Trump, Pence and the Right Wing Congress and Courts get through with rewriting the rule book. Which is why we have more important things to worry about now,

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    Re: hating the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Goldwater pushed them away back in the 60's. Nixon certainly never bothered bringing them home. Reagan, however, recognized the benefit of pandering to them, and Bush Jr took it to a whole new level.
    True. Goldwater quit the Republican party in the 1980's because of them.

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    Re: hating the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by Porkuloss View Post
    No, Patrick Henry was a professing Christian, but most of the founders were Deists, Unitarians or other. Have proof to the contrary?
    Okay so you are saying the religious "right " had less influence on the founding of the country, then they do now?

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    Re: hating the other side

    Quote Originally Posted by Partsguy57 View Post
    Okay, did they have any effect in the founding of the country?

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    Hard to say. It was a different time. Seems they went out of their way though to write the First, expressly stating that this is not a Christian Nation.

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