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LABOR Secretary hates workers - more Trump insanity [W:86]

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jet57 said:
You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about and your posts are drivel and ignorant empty opinion on the subject of American labor.
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My opinions are based on facts about public sector unionism, federal labor laws and case law, antitrust laws, state statutes, collective bargaining agreements in my state, personal experience with unions, awareness of how unions spend their money, awareness of bull**** unions say to their members, experience growing up on the outskirts of a major decimated by Democratic and Big Labor control for decades, and other personal research and inquiry into labor unions.

I do know what I'm talking about. I know exactly what I'm talking about.

Even when shown how old American labor is in black and white, you still deny it.
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I don't deny it, it's just that I really don't care, because it doesn't matter at all.
 
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Neomalthusian said:
My opinions are based on facts about public sector unionism, federal labor laws and case law, antitrust laws, state statutes, collective bargaining agreements in my state, personal experience with unions, awareness of how unions spend their money, awareness of bull**** unions say to their members, experience growing up on the outskirts of a major decimated by Democratic and Big Labor control for decades, and other personal research and inquiry into labor unions.

I do know what I'm talking about. I know exactly what I'm talking about.



I don't deny it, it's just that I really don't care, because it doesn't matter at all.
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Your opinions are crap and moving the goal posts won't help you. Read this PRESIDENTIAL QUOTES - Labor Quotes
 
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jet57 said:
Your opinions are crap and moving the goal posts won't help you.
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My posts are honest, and my goal posts are to kill public sector unions, and are unmoving.

Read this PRESIDENTIAL QUOTES - Labor Quotes
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I started to, and many of them are not pro-union quotes at all. Some are, and they're wrong. The mid-20th century presidents wee by and large pro-union asshats and are to blame for why our
Governmental sectors are so infested today with unionism. Ironically it was our most liberal president who was perhaps the most critical of public sector unionism.
 
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Neomalthusian said:
My posts are honest, and my goal posts are to kill public sector unions, and are unmoving.



I started to, and many of them are not pro-union quotes at all. Some are, and they're wrong. The mid-20th century presidents wee by and large pro-union asshats and are to blame for why our
Governmental sectors are so infested today with unionism. Ironically it was our most liberal president who was perhaps the most critical of public sector unionism.
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You don't anything about labor and you make it up as we go along. I've posted proof that you're as wrong as one can be, so we're done.
 
jet57 said:
You don't anything about labor and you make it up as we go along.
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I know a lot about labor, I know even more about labor unions, and there's nothing I've made up. What have I made up? I know what federal and state law says, I know the case law, I know how CBAs work, so what exactly have I made up?

I've posted proof that you're as wrong as one can be, so we're done.
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You haven't posted proof of anything. You posted some quotes and a book about early American trade unions. What have you "proven" regarding how I am "wrong?"
 
Partsguy57 said:
I just went and looked at it. That's not mine as I received that in the form of a text. Who knows how many people it went through before it got to me as I don't know the name. Good job on spotting that and thanks for the warning. ( I would hope all would know it's just humor and be adult enough to recognize as just that)
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Humor or not we may and many times not agree quite vehemently, but still privacy is quite important as a basic precaution.
 
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SheWolf said:
Obama destroyed the economy? Its in better shape than when he took office for sure.
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Feel free to specify the Obama policies that improved the economy?
 
haymarket said:
Well ,we have a nominee for Education who hates public schools.... we have a nominee for head of the EPA who has gone to war against its basic function and purpose ..... and now we have a nominee for Labor Secretary who hates workers and unions. And before that we have racist Jeff Sessions in charge of Justice which is supposed to protect our rights and Tom Price in charge of Health and Human Services who wants to rip tens of millions from insurance coverage.

Trump to Name Pro-Robot Fast-Food CEO as Labor Secretary
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Basically Trump's presidency will be a very typical Republican Administration. A cheap labor guy for department of labor. A guy that could care less about environmental protection in charge of environmental protection. A woman that is anti-public lands in charge of public lands. I said this way back last summer that if he was elected, his administration would be just like Bush's if not even further to the right (at least Bush had a EPA administrator that cared about environmental protection).

Republicans will love these picks. Personally the EPA / Department of Interior picks are the ones that concern me the most. Luckily the worst damage they could do to public lands will be tied up in the courts until we get another president.
 
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Master PO said:
Simce i have an overkill of likes for my post, many people knew what i was talking about, iam sorry you did not get it.
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They're all right-wingers, so there's a common sense balance for 'ya.
 
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Porkuloss said:
Many of his appointments seem consistent with the standard conservative desire to have the government destroy itself so that the "free market" can feed on the carcass (i.e. suck up our tax money).

The only one I've really read up on is the the ScamWay trust fund baby he nominated for Education. If the Repubs want to destroy public education, go for it, but THEN don't take any more tax money for education. Let people buy their own education on the "free market".:roll:
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Huh ? Conservatives have no such desire. The Constitution sets explicit limits on Govt authority and what Conservatives " desire " is that Govt remain within those limits.

And how does the " Free market " feed on tax dollars ? Im guessing you have no idea how Free markets work let alone on what they " feed on ".
 
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_Sal said:
apparently not very well
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I disagree, I made the argument so well, you haven't even tried to rebut it.
 
haymarket said:
In point of fact the Democrats in the recent election
1 - garnered 2.5 million more votes for their candidate for President than did the Republicans
2- gained seats in the US Senate
3- gained seats in the US House of Representatives

That is some strange standard of failure that you are using.
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If it wasn't for CA the most liberal state that could care less about jobs, farmers, industries and the like now wants to make CA a sanctuary state for illegals your lying Hillary would have 20 million less votes.

Gained Seats in the Senate, how many again?

Gained Seats in the House, how many again?

And your bragging about that. When Obama lost the House and then the Senate and then the Presidency in only 8 yrs. Turned over all three branches of government to the Republicans and you're bragging about gaining 1 seat. WOW
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Basically Trump's presidency will be a very typical Republican Administration. A cheap labor guy for department of labor. A guy that could care less about environmental protection in charge of environmental protection. A woman that is anti-public lands in charge of public lands. I said this way back last summer that if he was elected, his administration would be just like Bush's if not even further to the right (at least Bush had a EPA administrator that cared about environmental protection).

Republicans will love these picks. Personally the EPA / Department of Interior picks are the ones that concern me the most. Luckily the worst damage they could do to public lands will be tied up in the courts until we get another president.
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Yep your dead on with that statement. You have to remember Obama's policies were reputeated.
 
Born Free said:
If it wasn't for CA the most liberal state that could care less about jobs, farmers, industries and the like now wants to make CA a sanctuary state for illegals your lying Hillary would have 20 million less votes.

Gained Seats in the Senate, how many again?

Gained Seats in the House, how many again?

And your bragging about that. When Obama lost the House and then the Senate and then the Presidency in only 8 yrs. Turned over all three branches of government to the Republicans and you're bragging about gaining 1 seat. WOW
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They all lose the presidency in eight years...

Obama gave away his majority when he caved on health care.

The Dems stayed home this year, the rest is history.
 
jet57 said:
They all lose the presidency in eight years...
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Yeah they do but Hillary lost because she was going to follow Obama's failed policies.

Obama gave away his majority when he caved on health care.
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He gave away his majority because of failed policies.

The Dems stayed home this year, the rest is history.
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The Dems stayed home, yep even they are fed up with Obama's failed policies.
 
Born Free said:
Yeah they do but Hillary lost because she was going to follow Obama's failed policies.



He gave away his majority because of failed policies.



The Dems stayed home, yep even they are fed up with Obama's failed policies.
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Well, you don't know WHAT Hillary was going to do, and as for the rest, I agree with you.
 
haymarket said:
Well ,we have a nominee for Education who hates public schools.... we have a nominee for head of the EPA who has gone to war against its basic function and purpose ..... and now we have a nominee for Labor Secretary who hates workers and unions. And before that we have racist Jeff Sessions in charge of Justice which is supposed to protect our rights and Tom Price in charge of Health and Human Services who wants to rip tens of millions from insurance coverage.

Trump to Name Pro-Robot Fast-Food CEO as Labor Secretary

Steve Bannon - the top Trump henchman from the far right - denies that he ever said he wants to destroy the state as some have attributed that boast to him - but these sort of nomination are putting the fox in the henhouse. And that usually gives us lots of dead chickens.

These nominations are far right wing wet dreams come true and they are going to have to hose down the bed if there are any more like this.

God save us because its going to take divine intercession from this monster.
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One has to understand capitalism to understand the stances by this proposed Trump Labor Secretary. The job of capitalism is to allocate resources to best maximize profits and keep the price tag low enough for the buying public to be interested. Paying burger flippers $15 an hour doesn't maximize profits. Paying burger flippers $15 an hour won't be conducive to a low enough price tag for the buying public to be interested. Instead, having machines flip burgers at a lower cost would maximize profits and keep unit prices down and affordable to buyers.

Sidenote: Trump's tweeted jab at the Indiana Steelworker boss local 1999 is the same 'jab' at undue higher costs for US manufacturing that doesn't benefit capitalism. That doesn't maximize profits. That doesn't attempt to keep the price tag down. Which won't keep American jobs in America if wages (and benefits) are too high to compete. That's why some of those jobs left the US in the first place.
Carrier Factory Union Chief Standing Ground Against Trump - ABC News
 
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jet57 said:
Well, you don't know WHAT Hillary was going to do, and as for the rest, I agree with you.
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Of course we know, her campaign outlined what she was going to do. Same as Trump did. Trump won out over Hillary because of Trumps policies.
 
Born Free said:
If it wasn't for CA the most liberal state that could care less about jobs, farmers, industries and the like now wants to make CA a sanctuary state for illegals your lying Hillary would have 20 million less votes.

Gained Seats in the Senate, how many again?

Gained Seats in the House, how many again?

And your bragging about that. When Obama lost the House and then the Senate and then the Presidency in only 8 yrs. Turned over all three branches of government to the Republicans and you're bragging about gaining 1 seat. WOW
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So you cannot dispute the truth of all three of my facts about the election results.
 
haymarket said:
So you cannot dispute the truth of all three of my facts about the election results.
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No I dispute your bragging rights. You have none. Now do you want to get into the governors and the controlled legislatures.
 
haymarket said:
So you cannot dispute the truth of all three of my facts about the election results.
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But who cares if hillary got 2.5 million more votes, the popular vote means nothing, you cannot dispute the fact trump got over 270 EC votes......big deal
 
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