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Ag Secretar Vilsack says Democrats need better message for rural America

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[FONT=&quot]“The Democratic Party, in my opinion, has not made as much of an effort as it ought to, to speak to rural voters,” Vilsack said Tuesday in an interview with The Associated Press. “What’s frustrating to me is that we actually have something we can say to them, and we have chosen, for whatever reason, not to say it.”

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Vilsack is a longtime friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton and was close to becoming Hillary Clinton’s vice presidential running mate. She chose Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine instead. Clinton ultimately won Virginia but lost, deeply, in many rural areas of the country.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Vilsack says he understands why party leaders chose a different path to try for electoral victory, focusing on expanding populations like Hispanics and African-Americans who had come out in large numbers to vote for Barack Obama, the nation’s first black president, in 2008 and 2012.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
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[/FONT]Vilsack says Democrats need better message for rural America | PBS NewsHour

The Agriculture Secretary is making the argument, almost assuredly something that will be taken for granted after this month, that Democrats have almost entirely become the party of the liberal urbanite. The Democratic Party used to have a vibrant coalition of non-urban voters who typically elected persons called "Blue Dogs" to national office. Their numbers had slowly eroded during the 1990s, but their decline accelerated dramatically in the aftermath of the Affordable Care Act, when both conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats scorned the moderates for altering the design of healthcare reform and voting for it.

In terms of this election, I always thought this was something important for liberals to understand. Kaine was seen as a somewhat moderate pick, which he was, but he was perhaps an urban moderate figure. Gun control favors well, green policies are urged, etc. Tim Kaine didn't have the same feel as Jim Webb, and that means something.

There's several Democrats that are in dangerous waters for 2018-representing the nearly extinct moderate forces of the Democratic Party.
 
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Fiddytree said:
[/FONT][/COLOR]Vilsack says Democrats need better message for rural America | PBS NewsHour

The Agriculture Secretary is making the argument, almost assuredly something that will be taken for granted after this month, that Democrats have almost entirely become the party of the liberal urbanite. The Democratic Party used to have a vibrant coalition of urban voters who typically elected persons called "Blue Dogs" to national office. Their numbers had slowly eroded during the 1990s, but their decline accelerated dramatically in the aftermath of the Affordable Care Act, when both conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats scorned the moderates for altering the design of healthcare reform and voting for it.

In terms of this election, I always thought this was something important for liberals to understand. Kaine was seen as a somewhat moderate pick, which he was, but he was perhaps an urban moderate figure. Gun control favors well, green policies are urged, etc. Tim Kaine didn't have the same feel as Jim Webb, and that means something.

There's several Democrats that are in dangerous waters for 2018-representing the nearly extinct moderate forces of the Democratic Party.
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A less urban/inner city democrst party couldnt hurt the democrats chances

But the democrat party is infested with liberals who have been running moteres out of the party for a long time
 
Fiddytree said:
[/FONT][/COLOR]Vilsack says Democrats need better message for rural America | PBS NewsHour

The Agriculture Secretary is making the argument, almost assuredly something that will be taken for granted after this month, that Democrats have almost entirely become the party of the liberal urbanite. The Democratic Party used to have a vibrant coalition of non-urban voters who typically elected persons called "Blue Dogs" to national office. Their numbers had slowly eroded during the 1990s, but their decline accelerated dramatically in the aftermath of the Affordable Care Act, when both conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats scorned the moderates for altering the design of healthcare reform and voting for it.

In terms of this election, I always thought this was something important for liberals to understand. Kaine was seen as a somewhat moderate pick, which he was, but he was perhaps an urban moderate figure. Gun control favors well, green policies are urged, etc. Tim Kaine didn't have the same feel as Jim Webb, and that means something.

There's several Democrats that are in dangerous waters for 2018-representing the nearly extinct moderate forces of the Democratic Party.
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the libs started a race war and a war to kill police. their party should be disbanned and suspended until further notice.
 
I don't see how the dynamics of the situation will work out. At some point the tent becomes too large and infighting will occur. I don't see how you can keep the extremes of the party while at the same time bring back the rural moderates. I might be wrong, but if they do manage to bring them back(which I doubt) I imagine avoiding what happened last time from occurring again will be quite challenging for the democrats.
 
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the libs started a race war and a war to kill police. their party should be disbanned and suspended until further notice.
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What is perhaps humorous about the whole thing is that their desire to be a big tent party will continue to backfire. As they continue to push further left they will likely keep leaking support from the other side. This will cause them to become more isolated in terms of locational support and make their current problem worse.
 
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Fiddytree said:
[/FONT][/COLOR]Vilsack says Democrats need better message for rural America | PBS NewsHour

The Agriculture Secretary is making the argument, almost assuredly something that will be taken for granted after this month, that Democrats have almost entirely become the party of the liberal urbanite. The Democratic Party used to have a vibrant coalition of non-urban voters who typically elected persons called "Blue Dogs" to national office. Their numbers had slowly eroded during the 1990s, but their decline accelerated dramatically in the aftermath of the Affordable Care Act, when both conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats scorned the moderates for altering the design of healthcare reform and voting for it.

In terms of this election, I always thought this was something important for liberals to understand. Kaine was seen as a somewhat moderate pick, which he was, but he was perhaps an urban moderate figure. Gun control favors well, green policies are urged, etc. Tim Kaine didn't have the same feel as Jim Webb, and that means something.

There's several Democrats that are in dangerous waters for 2018-representing the nearly extinct moderate forces of the Democratic Party.
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I can't believe "I'm gonna shut down the coal business" wasn't a winning message in Pennsylvania and Ohio. Maybe they should try "You'll be living in a shanty-town with Democrats" will be the next winning message the Democrats should try.
 
reinoe said:
I can't believe "I'm gonna shut down the coal business" wasn't a winning message in Pennsylvania and Ohio. Maybe they should try "You'll be living in a shanty-town with Democrats" will be the next winning message the Democrats should try.
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It's amazing people haven't figured out by now that democrats aren't for the poor. Did they miss cash for clunkers that took cheap cars off the market or the long list of regulations they pass all the damn time that raise the cost of goods and services?
 
Message? How about a change in policies and attitudes.
 
Democrats have become a party of pressure groups. The only group without a home in the democrat party are white males, who they demonize as the cause of every other pressure groups troubles. Hard to believe that white males would flee such a party
 
Liberals can do nothing for people who only want to be left alone. So long as they oppose the 2nd Amendment, they will never be more than a coastal party.
 
Fiddytree said:
[/FONT][/COLOR]Vilsack says Democrats need better message for rural America | PBS NewsHour

The Agriculture Secretary is making the argument, almost assuredly something that will be taken for granted after this month, that Democrats have almost entirely become the party of the liberal urbanite. The Democratic Party used to have a vibrant coalition of non-urban voters who typically elected persons called "Blue Dogs" to national office. Their numbers had slowly eroded during the 1990s, but their decline accelerated dramatically in the aftermath of the Affordable Care Act, when both conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats scorned the moderates for altering the design of healthcare reform and voting for it.

In terms of this election, I always thought this was something important for liberals to understand. Kaine was seen as a somewhat moderate pick, which he was, but he was perhaps an urban moderate figure. Gun control favors well, green policies are urged, etc. Tim Kaine didn't have the same feel as Jim Webb, and that means something.

There's several Democrats that are in dangerous waters for 2018-representing the nearly extinct moderate forces of the Democratic Party.
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Clearly the Democratic party became the party of the educated professional, which was demonstrated starkly during the primaries when Sanders, who was the only Democrat to make economic inequality the focus of his platform, was regularly treated in the media as the crazy commie. Clinton's nomination left those who would have voted for Sanders in a heartbeat racing toward the fascist lunatic who pretended to care about economic inequality.
 
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