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Four years of Hillary a good thing?

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In light of Trumps poor values, I can't help but contemplate Hillary as our next president. Would it be good for our Country?

I think it might be. Obama and the Fascist Progressives have taken us a long way down a bad road. Hillary will no doubt continue this journey. It could lead to a far stronger win in 2020 for conservatives, and hopefully we can put up a candidate that has a conservative platform, some integrity, and values that won't have us becoming a cog in the globalist Progressive world. Sure it will be a bumpy ride, but it might be worth putting up with.
The one thing Progressives don't seem to realize: The more they make their dreams come true the less people like it.
 
If Hillary is elected President, there is nothing to look forward to but:

* More staggering debt, most likely in the neighborhood of an increase of an additional $5 TRILLION over the first four years
* The final collapse of Social Security
* More corruption, more scandals, and even less accountability
* An agenda-driven (read, ignoring the spirit and letter of the Constitution) liberal majority in the US Supreme Court, and a resulting diminishment of our personal liberties and freedoms
and
* A staggering increase in the already horrible percentage of Americans out of work and drawing welfare, public assistance, and food stamps.

But we already knew that, didn't we?
:doh
 
As PJ ORourke put it, "She's the second worst thing that could happen to America."
 
it will be 8 years, the GOP are done winning unless they join reality and recognize more than scared old white men
 
When the alternative is Donald Trump? 4 year of Alfred E. Neuman would be a good thing.

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Sparky2 said:
If Hillary is elected President, there is nothing to look forward to but:

* More staggering debt, most likely in the neighborhood of an increase of an additional $5 TRILLION over the first four years
* The final collapse of Social Security
* More corruption, more scandals, and even less accountability
* An agenda-driven (read, ignoring the spirit and letter of the Constitution) liberal majority in the US Supreme Court, and a resulting diminishment of our personal liberties and freedoms
and
* A staggering increase in the already horrible percentage of Americans out of work and drawing welfare, public assistance, and food stamps.

But we already knew that, didn't we?
:doh
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This is all true. I think our debt must increase regardless of winner. If we do what needs to be done to become economically sustainable (good use of progressive term) we will be in a depression that few will want to bear.
It will happen eventually whether we have the appetite for it or not, but to take in on willingly, I think few have the constitution for this.

But that aside, it amazes me that Progressives and liberals have so little integrity as to lick their chops over Trumps shortcomings, but dismiss Hillary's lies, cheats, and half truths as acceptable tools to get the cause closer to the goal. Can a worthy goal be won by deceit? It will devour itself in the doing. But such is their folly. The lack of integrity speaks to their demise, an early warning to which they pay no heed.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
When the alternative is Donald Trump? 4 year of Alfred E. Neuman would be a good thing.
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I have said on a number of occasions over the past year that I would vote for a fetid, rheumy puddle of dog diarrhea before I would vote for Hillary Clinton.
I stand by that statement.

Her Party had the chance to support the honorable James Webb (D) of Virginia, or at the very least, the honest Bernie Sanders, but no.
They were in it balls-deep for Hillary from the get-go, and no one else.

Honesty, integrity, and accountability;
They matter nothing to the DNC.
All that matters to them is pushing the doddering, stumbling drooling Clintons back into the White House, at all costs.

It's a shameful situation, and given the scenario over in the Republican Party, it's a complete shiite sandwich.
Our Two Party System is official broken, and irreparably so.
:(
 
Sparky2 said:
I have said on a number of occasions over the past year that I would vote for a fetid, rheumy puddle of dog diarrhea before I would vote for Hillary Clinton.
I stand by that statement.

Her Party had the chance to support the honorable James Webb (D) of Virginia, or at the very least, the honest Bernie Sanders, but no.
They were in it balls-deep for Hillary from the get-go, and no one else.

Honesty, integrity, and accountability;
They matter nothing to the DNC.
All that matters to them is pushing the doddering, stumbling drooling Clintons back into the White House, at all costs.

It's a shameful situation, and given the scenario over in the Republican Party, it's a complete shiite sandwich.
Our Two Party System is official broken, and irreparably so.
:(
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I've had Trump supporters here say they'd support Hitler before they'd support Clinton. That's some serious F'ed up thinking.

But yes the system is broken. The whole primary system needs to be abolished. 4-5% of the Republican voters make someone like a Donald Trump their nominee? My God! And yeah, the DNC forcing their pick down the Dem voters throat.

But again, while the system is broken Donald Trump isn't the answer. He's far too dangerous. I'll hold on to the status quo for another 4 years until someone else comes along.
 
Cable said:
In light of Trumps poor values, I can't help but contemplate Hillary as our next president. Would it be good for our Country?

I think it might be. Obama and the Fascist Progressives have taken us a long way down a bad road. Hillary will no doubt continue this journey. It could lead to a far stronger win in 2020 for conservatives, and hopefully we can put up a candidate that has a conservative platform, some integrity, and values that won't have us becoming a cog in the globalist Progressive world. Sure it will be a bumpy ride, but it might be worth putting up with.
The one thing Progressives don't seem to realize: The more they make their dreams come true the less people like it.
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This "let them win" argument has been around for years. It's a very dangerous path and position to take.

With a Hillary win, the highly politicized Supreme Court will be allowed to fundamentally change the United States for generations.

The US will be pushed further backwards economically, as globalist socialist progressives carve up the Nation, and hand it to other power players eager to solidify their world leadership position in the New World Order they are trying to create.

2020 will come one way or the other, and what it will look like is at least worth fighting for today.
 
When you remove the conjecture, irritating voice and the fact that she consistently dresses like Dr. Evil, you're left with a politician who's really just not that bad in the large scheme of things. She's not a consumer rights activist so don't expect uhc or free college, but don't expect chaos either. Under a Clinton Administration, nothing's going to get much worse, and nothing's going to get much better.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
I've had Trump supporters here say they'd support Hitler before they'd support Clinton. That's some serious F'ed up thinking.
But yes the system is broken. The whole primary system needs to be abolished. 4-5% of the Republican voters make someone like a Donald Trump their nominee? My God! And yeah, the DNC forcing their pick down the Dem voters throat.
But again, while the system is broken Donald Trump isn't the answer. He's far too dangerous. I'll hold on to the status quo for another 4 years until someone else comes along.
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My fear with 'the status quo' is that there may not even be another election in four years.
The nation cannot take anymore corruption, dishonesty, and a complete disregard for accountability on the part of (let's face it) all three Branches of our Federal Government.

There are a lot unknowns about what life would be like under a President like Donald Trump.
It's admittedly a gamble.

But when the knowns about Hillary are so staggeringly-corrupt and crooked?
I really do fear the entire nation could go down the tubes, and end up in an economic Depression from which we cannot recover.
We are simply in too much debt.
 
Sparky2 said:
My fear with 'the status quo' is that there may not even be another election in four years.
The nation cannot take anymore corruption, dishonesty, and a complete disregard for accountability on the part of (let's face it) all three Branches of our Federal Government.

There are a lot unknowns about what life would be like under a President like Donald Trump.
It's admittedly a gamble.

But when the knowns about Hillary are so staggeringly-corrupt and crooked?
I really do fear the entire nation could go down the tubes, and end up in an economic Depression from which we cannot recover.
We are simply in too much debt.
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Maybe I'm more conservative then you.. I see a Trump presidency as a hell of a lot more dangerous then just a 'gamble'. Again, I can wait 4 years until someone better comes along. I don't want President Trump sitting up all night tweeting insults at the Little fat guy in N. Korea because the little fat guy insulted Trump.

When dealing with A'hole's like Jong-un, one of the 2 has to act like an adult. Neither Trump or Jong-un are adults. That's dangerous.
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
it will be 8 years, the GOP are done winning unless they join reality and recognize more than scared old white men
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I agree. The GOP needs to open up to more voters. The white base is already starting to fail and it will only get harder. Updating their social positions alone would be a big start.
 
Cable said:
Sad that you don't know.
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He's basing it off demographics. It's true that the GOP is the party of old whites. The question is, how does the GOP fix that? No need to act offended.
 
Sparky2 said:
My fear with 'the status quo' is that there may not even be another election in four years.
The nation cannot take anymore corruption, dishonesty, and a complete disregard for accountability on the part of (let's face it) all three Branches of our Federal Government.

There are a lot unknowns about what life would be like under a President like Donald Trump.
It's admittedly a gamble.

But when the knowns about Hillary are so staggeringly-corrupt and crooked?
I really do fear the entire nation could go down the tubes, and end up in an economic Depression from which we cannot recover.
We are simply in too much debt.
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oh brother
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
so you don't know either.

Trump polls almost zero to people outside of low educated white males.
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How does Hillary poll with poor uneducated blacks, like the thugs that tear up their cities when their criminal activities are pursued? Is this the kind of dialogue you like?
 
If she grants amnesty then little else will be done other than work toward her impeachment. If we assume she is lying to the Hispanics, and doesn't do that, then there is a possibility of getting some thing done, most notably expanding the H1B system that businesses are clamoring for to side step the minimum wage using the H1B temp's. It's as close to slave labor as you can get without the bad press.

There are a lot of loopholes in the FBI fix as it relates to "non disclosure" agreements forced upon the FBI agents. We just don't let people get away with this ****.
 
ocean515 said:
This "let them win" argument has been around for years. It's a very dangerous path and position to take.
With a Hillary win, the highly politicized Supreme Court will be allowed to fundamentally change the United States for generations.
The US will be pushed further backwards economically, as globalist socialist progressives carve up the Nation, and hand it to other power players eager to solidify their world leadership position in the New World Order they are trying to create.
2020 will come one way or the other, and what it will look like is at least worth fighting for today.
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I do get this, and I do agonize over it. But isn't this exactly what Christ said would happen? At what point do we fight, and at what point do we trust Him? That's my perspective as a voter.
I surely won't be voting for Hillary. I hope there is some great shake-up that would give me an alternative to Trump. These are two very real evils we are presented with.
 
Sparky2 said:
My fear with 'the status quo' is that there may not even be another election in four years.
The nation cannot take anymore corruption, dishonesty, and a complete disregard for accountability on the part of (let's face it) all three Branches of our Federal Government.

There are a lot unknowns about what life would be like under a President like Donald Trump.
It's admittedly a gamble.

But when the knowns about Hillary are so staggeringly-corrupt and crooked?
I really do fear the entire nation could go down the tubes, and end up in an economic Depression from which we cannot recover.
We are simply in too much debt.
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If we go down into Depression we take the world with us. What that means is anyone's guess. But we will recover somehow. Whether that looks like a global Progressive fascism, that's the real fear. That would be the ugliest I think.
 
MrPeanut said:
He's basing it off demographics. It's true that the GOP is the party of old whites. The question is, how does the GOP fix that? No need to act offended.
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Are old whites somehow irrelevant because they are old and white? Are they corrupt because they are old and white? Are they liars because they are old and white?

Hillary is old and white. She is a liar, a cheat, and a Progressive. Is it because she's old and white?
 
Cable said:
Are old whites somehow irrelevant because they are old and white? Are they corrupt because they are old and white? Are they liars because they are old and white?

Hillary is old and white. She is a liar, a cheat, and a Progressive. Is it because she's old and white?
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I never said they are irrelevant. They just aren't the only demographic a party needs to appeal to if they want to be elected in major elections. Take it easy on the red bulls.
 
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