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Lester was a schill last night, as usual

Kal'Stang said:
Interesting. And here I heard towards the beginning of all this hoopla that Trump would never win the primaries because too many Republicans, including Republican politicians, were all against Trump. And while that was going on it was claimed that no republican politician would support any of his policies. Now all of a sudden all Republicans are 100% supporting Trump and he'll get all of his policies through?

And here's a curiosity. You state this about Trump...but what about Hillary? Won't the same apply to her if she wins and the Democrats take over the House and Senate? Oh wait...nvm...its perfectly OK for her huh?
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Democrats fall in love - Republicans fall in line. Rubio proved this. Cruz proved this. Ryan proved this. McCain proved this. And it continues.

Clinton has no extremist agenda. Trump has.
 
justabubba said:
each candidate's tax plan has been scored

tRump's trickle down tax cut proposal would add to the national debt a full quantum more than hillary's
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Which is another excellent reason why Trump can never be allowed to enter the White House as President and must be stopped.
 
haymarket said:
You are making crap up as I never said a word about Clinton professing any love for America or the American people.
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Well, at least you are admitting that she has none. That's a start I guess.

haymarket said:
Actually the effects of policies are very much a subject of debate. Especially when those policies are based on hyper nationalism, xenophobia, racism, sexism and sowing division as so many of Trumps are.
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I see you've equated wanting to secure the borders with xenophobia. I find fault in this false equivalency.
It's funny, but Trump hasn't ever been called a racist until he started running against Democrats. Funny how that works.
 
haymarket said:
Democrats fall in love - Republicans fall in line. Rubio proved this. Cruz proved this. Ryan proved this. McCain proved this. And it continues.
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Riiiiight. Tell me HM...how many of those that ran as Democrat against Hillary now are supporting her? Vs How many Republicans that ran against Trump are supporting him?

haymarket said:
Clinton has no extremist agenda. Trump has.
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:lamo :lamo :lamo :lamo :lamo
 
justabubba said:
each candidate's tax plan has been scored

tRump's trickle down tax cut proposal would add to the national debt a full quantum more than hillary's
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Name for me any scoring that accurately accounts for revenue growth due to economic activity? Is this the same scoring that claimed the Obama stimulus would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%?
 
eohrnberger said:
Well, at least you are admitting that she has none. That's a start I guess.
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You made that crap up also as I never said she did not love America.

Please pay more attention to the words from me you pretend you are replying to.

It's funny, but Trump hasn't ever been called a racist until he started running against Democrats.
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Tell that to Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan who labeled his words and actions on a Mexican American judge as textbook racism. No Democrat was responsible for those racist remarks. Trump did that to himself.

Also interesting that even your statement shows that you know Trump turned to the hard right when he left Democrats behind and in doing so had to embrace racists in the far right who are so influential in GOP primaries.
 
eohrnberger said:
I see you've equated wanting to secure the borders with xenophobia. I find fault in this false equivalency.
It's funny, but Trump hasn't ever been called a racist until he started running against Democrats. Funny how that works.
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Interesting no? Even Al Sharpton, the biggest race baiter in the entire US once supported Trump. Until he ran against Democrats.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Riiiiight. Tell me HM...how many of those that ran as Democrat against Hillary now are supporting her? Vs How many Republicans that ran against Trump are supporting him?



:lamo :lamo :lamo :lamo :lamo
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How many Democratic opponents did Clinton belittle, demean, insult, personally attack, call grade school names at, and insult their family members so as to not ever deserve their eventual support when the primary process was decided?

Answer that and you will see the difference in falsely comparing the two.
 
Cable said:
From my understanding, a political debate is where the mod asks a challenging political platform question and each candidate takes a swing at it. The the folks make their judgements.

Less-ter Holt asked Trump several direct questions last night:

1. When will you release your taxes?
2. Birther
3. Racism
4. Observations of Hillery

These aren't things Hillery could be provided equal response on, except maybe to pile on with Lester. But isn't it awesome that the liberal media is so stupid as to think the People won't notice this serious bias?
What Less-ter, no Benghazi? No Clinton Foundation? No lying to the Feds? No deleting email? No Bernie Sanders scandal-ism? No hard ball for Clinton at all? She was in her power suit Less. She can handle it.

Why aren't you 50 points ahead Hillery? Because the people are sick of your over-polished BS, and the sycophant media.

And that red power pants suit. Awesome. It just screamed "please don't think I'm weak"
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Half of the questions Lester Holt asked trump were is own dang fault for getting those types of questions being asked about him. There are plenty of successful businessmen that don't have his baggage. Also Lester did ask Hillary about the emails. It was on Trump to keep pressing it. Like Hillary kept pressing him.
 
haymarket said:
We have a 19trillion dollar debt. Can you tell me how we realistically pay this without raising taxes on the people with the most money to pay increases?
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Easy. Cut spending.

Ex1: There is no need for the US to be out spending 10 countries combined on our military.
Ex2: The US has been at war in one country or anther longer than I've been alive. Stop going to war.

That's two examples that would massively cut our spending.
 
haymarket said:
Actually the effects of policies are very much a subject of debate. Especially when those policies are based on hyper nationalism, xenophobia, racism, sexism and sowing division as so many of Trumps are.
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We have policies and results of those policies with Clinton, and the results are ugly. Your characterization of Trump's policies are simply partisan BS. You don't know any of that at all. You've simply swallowed the liberal media spin hook, line and sinker. If Trump's policies are so divisive, considering he has no political power just now, how do you explain the divisiveness we are seeing right now under a liberal administration? On the one hand (Trump's), we have speculation, and on the other (Clinton and Obama) we have reality. I'll take reality as the more reliable indicator.
 
haymarket said:
We have a 19trillion dollar debt. Can you tell me how we realistically pay this without raising taxes on the people with the most money to pay increases?
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Look up hyper inflation. That is in fact how it will be paid. Any other above board attempts to pay it will tank the economy in such a way as to have folks pining for the good old 2009 recession days. We are royally screwed on the debt. It's a ticking time bomb, and the most we can do is move the time to detonation off a little bit more each year. Obama had to double the debt to keep it from blowing during his term. I can't imagine we will be able to push the day of reckoning out much further.
 
haymarket said:
How many Democratic opponents did Clinton belittle, demean, insult, personally attack, call grade school names at, and insult their family members so as to not ever deserve their eventual support when the primary process was decided?

Answer that and you will see the difference in falsely comparing the two.
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She only attacked one because there was only one that was a serious contender against her. Sanders. Guess who he's supporting?

But hey, thanks for admitting that Republicans more than likely won't be upholding all of his policies near as much as you think.

Yeah yeah, I know, you didn't say it directly. More than likely don't even realize that is what your statement shows. But guess what....it does. ;)
 
haymarket said:
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Tell that to Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan who labeled his words and actions on a Mexican American judge as textbook racism. No Democrat was responsible for those racist remarks. Trump did that to himself.
Also interesting that even your statement shows that you know Trump turned to the hard right when he left Democrats behind and in doing so had to embrace racists in the far right who are so influential in GOP primaries.
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Hilary and the liberals embrace leftist racism every day and they've been able to mainstream it to boot.
La Raza, the black power fist, all of this crap is pure racism. But to libs this is the little guy trying to stand up for himself.
To objective reality, it is racism plain and simple.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Easy. Cut spending.

Ex1: There is no need for the US to be out spending 10 countries combined on our military.
Ex2: The US has been at war in one country or anther longer than I've been alive. Stop going to war.

That's two examples that would massively cut our spending.
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While I a free with you about over defense spending, I see nobody on the horizon who is going to pursue that as both Trump and Clinton are going in the opposite direction.... so its not a realistic expectation in todays political environment.

Tell me your specific plan to cut spending and pay off that 19 trillion debt.
 
Cable said:
Hilary and the liberals embrace leftist racism every day and they've been able to mainstream it to boot.
La Raza, the black power fist, all of this crap is pure racism. But to libs this is the little guy trying to stand up for himself.
To objective reality, it is racism plain and simple.
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Actually that is your opinion that I rarely see voiced outside of the hardcore alt right.
 
Kal'Stang said:
She only attacked one because there was only one that was a serious contender against her. Sanders. Guess who he's supporting?

But hey, thanks for admitting that Republicans more than likely won't be upholding all of his policies near as much as you think.

Yeah yeah, I know, you didn't say it directly. More than likely don't even realize that is what your statement shows. But guess what....it does. ;)
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I never said that. You are making crap up.
 
Conservative said:
Name for me any scoring that accurately accounts for revenue growth due to economic activity? Is this the same scoring that claimed the Obama stimulus would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%?
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then you are OK with the donald putting another $5.8 Trillion on the government's credit card to pay for tax breaks for the most affluent
 
Cable said:
Look up hyper inflation. That is in fact how it will be paid. Any other above board attempts to pay it will tank the economy in such a way as to have folks pining for the good old 2009 recession days. We are royally screwed on the debt. It's a ticking time bomb, and the most we can do is move the time to detonation off a little bit more each year. Obama had to double the debt to keep it from blowing during his term. I can't imagine we will be able to push the day of reckoning out much further.
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please share with us the currency in which you have placed your own assets if not US dollars
 
haymarket said:
I never said that. You are making crap up.
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Preeeety sure that I already said that you never said that.

Kal'Stang said:
Yeah yeah, I know, you didn't say it directly. More than likely don't even realize that is what your statement shows. But guess what....it does. ;)
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Notice the bold? Yeah, I said that you didn't say it directly.

Notice the red? Yeah...that.
 
haymarket said:
We have a 19trillion dollar debt. Can you tell me how we realistically pay this without raising taxes on the people with the most money to pay increases?
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We can't. But the problem is the liberals do not want tax increases to pay off the debt, but rather to use as payoff money for those that brung 'em them there or as a down payment on another social program to be paid by our children and grand children. The stimulus is an example of the first, Obamacare the second.

The only realistic way to pay off the debt is to stop spending more than you take in.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Preeeety sure that I already said that you never said that.



Notice the bold? Yeah, I said that you didn't say it directly.

Notice the red? Yeah...that.
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So stop making crap up.
 
jimbo said:
We can't. But the problem is the liberals do not want tax increases to pay off the debt, but rather to use as payoff money for those that brung 'em them there or as a down payment on another social program to be paid by our children and grand children. The stimulus is an example of the first, Obamacare the second.

The only realistic way to pay off the debt is to stop spending more than you take in.
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That only balances the annual budget. It fails to pay off the existing debt.
 
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