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The End Of A Republican Party

I think now with the increase of the spread of information, the vacuum wouldn't last long, if at all.
If it did, I'd guarantee a split in the Dems, along the Liberal and Progressive lines.

Yeah, but on top of that, we aren't used to dissolving a party and/or having several newly-viable third parties with huge name backers that come and go every several years.

That tends to remove a lot of the energy toward destroying and recreating a party.

Now we tend to do a lot more of what our forefathers did: have non-partisan (but very much ideological) social movements in an attempt to adjust the priorities of either the Republican or Democratic parties.
 
Yeah, but on top of that, we aren't used to dissolving a party and/or having several newly-viable third parties with huge name backers that come and go every several years.

That tends to remove a lot of the energy toward destroying and recreating a party.

Now we tend to do a lot more of what our forefathers did: have non-partisan (but very much ideological) social movements in an attempt to adjust the priorities of either the Republican or Democratic parties.

The biggest problem with multiple parties is that they split too many votes and a dedicated minority can then take over the government. IMO, that's what happened to the GOP this year when 18 candidates split the normal vote and one nutjob pulled in all the crazy vote.
 
The End Of A Republican Party

there are only two choices, so i really doubt that one of them is going to die off. that being said, the Republican party really needs to get its **** together because we really need the Republican party. we need it to be a check on wasteful spending; a second opinion on new or existing programs. just because i think that we need to move left in areas like health care, public sector involvement in energy policy, and in some other areas doesn't mean that i think that left is the only direction that the car should steer. a left wing only or right wing only approach to every situation means that you're off the road and driving in circles pretty quickly. however, what has happened to the GOP is just sad. it's like finding out that someone you know has developed severe paranoid schizophrenia and has begun using his feces to draw penises on the wall. and the main defense against this is going to be, "well, look at the Democrats!" my response : exactly. look at the ****ing Democrats. that's why we need a sane GOP. pop a risperdal, and get back to work. this is our country, and currently, it's like reading a chapter in a yet to be written history book abut the decline of empires (or worse.) if we're going to artificially limit the choices to two, then those need to be two very good choices. or at least one of them does in any given election, FFS.
 
The biggest problem with multiple parties is that they split too many votes and a dedicated minority can then take over the government. IMO, that's what happened to the GOP this year when 18 candidates split the normal vote and one nutjob pulled in all the crazy vote.

Even the futility of the exercise was very much in the mind of the non-Whigs (or Whigs who were potentially ticked at the leadership) as well. That's why a number of them refused to separate from the Party despite their grievances.

As for your idea about the splitting of votes, just consider the Weimar Republic.
 
Two parties are a good thing. But...uh, certainly not if one of them is some white nationalist party of old men.

Maybe we will not have to worry about it for much longer.

I hope you realize that a party is just a name. A few years ago one could have said that the GOP is dead in NYC, then Giuliani was elected Mayor. Now if you want to say that individualism is dying and we are on our way to a collectivist world, that's a more powerful argument. There is a cultural trend away from liberty and towards people wanting to be more controlled and subsidized by government.
 
Interesting eulogy or wishful thinking?



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Buh bye backwards party...don't let the door hit ya.

If the Republican party goes belly-up, what do you think will happen afterwards?
 
I'm not saying that the GOP will disappear but around 2060 massive demographic change will reduce the GOP to a small,regional,party with little national power.

Wait and see,that's only 44 years away.
 
When the Whigs went out of business the GOP sprang up.

The GOP will be replaced by one or more new parties.

Right, so what's the hub-bub about? If the Republican Party goes away, all those Conservatives aren't going to stop being Conservatives and start voting for Democrats.
 
Right, so what's the hub-bub about? If the Republican Party goes away,
all those Conservatives aren't going to stop being Conservatives and start voting for Democrats.



The dead White people won't be voting for anyone.

:lol:

Demographic change is about people getting old and dying and other people taking their place.

Do a little research into the future demographics of the USA.
 
The dead White people won't be voting for anyone.

:lol:

Demographic change is about people getting old and dying and other people taking their place.

Do a little research into the future demographics of the USA.

By then, The United States will be a communist third world country.
 
That's your opinion which you're entitled to but I don't believe that will happen.

Get back with me in 50 years and we'll chat about it.

If The United States is made up mostly of people from third world countries, the The United States will become a third world country. That's reality.
 
I think now with the increase of the spread of information, the vacuum wouldn't last long, if at all.
If it did, I'd guarantee a split in the Dems, along the Liberal and Progressive lines.

That's the natural place for a third party to form in the US. An American equivalent of the Canadian NDP, a home for socialists/progressives, would allow liberals to leave the Republican Party and admit they're liberal.
 
That's the natural place for a third party to form in the US. An American equivalent of the Canadian NDP, a home for socialists/progressives, would allow liberals to leave the Republican Party and admit they're liberal.

We have third parties.
If the supposed doomsday were to happen, to the Repubs, the libertarians would likely be the new place holder.
As Fiddy already said though, it's more likely that the Repubs will just reform themselves ideologically to stay relevant.
 
By then, The United States will be a communist third world country.

The United States will no longer align with the United States?
 
The United States will transform into a third world country.

Meaning it'll be unaligned. The terms are cold-war leftovers- the first world is the US and nations aligned with the US.
 
You like the idea of a one party state do ya?

The Republican party is too big to fail! The government needs to bail them out!

A party falling apart naturally is exactly how the Republican Party was born. But you already knew that didn't you?
 
The republican party has been disconnected from most of the voters for years.
This year was the boil over point. And still with what has happened the establishment
republicans still do not get it. I don't think they ever will.

The left loves to push the narrative that college educated people don't vote for xxxxx.
First who has been in charge in Washington and created this massive mess? College educated men and women!
If you have a plumbing problem who do you want a Phd or a plumber? Give me a trade educated person anytime. :)
 
lol...the GOP has several boogiemen to replace him with. Ted Cruz being next in line.

The GOP is backing various dying agendas: white power, religious power, small government, low taxes for the rich, coal, guns, ant-gay, anti-abortion etc. All those are losing issues among the younger generation. Good luck with that.

I'll be very surprised if the GOP outlives me.

Here is your problem, you borrow and spend liberals, free handouts and all the rest is raising the national debt to limits that you liberals have no clue how to deal with. You have no idea how to grow an economy, after Obama borrowing as much as all the presidents combined and to show for it is a GDP of an anemic 1%. Every sense WWII liberals can't give handouts out fast enough and are still on a rampage. Borrowing 9 trillion in 8 yrs and end up with a GDP of 1% is disastrous. You think nothing of borrowing, the deficit is on the rise again as we speak. Once the people realize the end is coming they will call on the GOP to fix the problem.
 
Here is your problem, you borrow and spend liberals, free handouts and all the rest is raising the national debt to limits that you liberals have no clue how to deal with. You have no idea how to grow an economy, after Obama borrowing as much as all the presidents combined and to show for it is a GDP of an anemic 1%. Every sense WWII liberals can't give handouts out fast enough and are still on a rampage. Borrowing 9 trillion in 8 yrs and end up with a GDP of 1% is disastrous. You think nothing of borrowing, the deficit is on the rise again as we speak. Once the people realize the end is coming they will call on the GOP to fix the problem.

lol...Republicans borrow more than the D.
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The republican party has been disconnected from most of the voters for years.

You are absolutely right, the people like entitlements and freebies, no matter the cost to others or raising the national debt. They could care less about any of that just give me my entitlement and freebies.

This year was the boil over point. And still with what has happened the establishment
republicans still do not get it. I don't think they ever will.

You're right again, republicans are not into freebies, killing industries and jobs etc. The liberal elite has done a exceptional job of making the people dependent on them. The liberals have made the public uneducated, keep them dumb, and jobless and we'll have their vote forever. It's all about keeping power not helping the people

The left loves to push the narrative that college educated people don't vote for xxxxx.

That is not all they push, they also push republicans are all racist.

First who has been in charge in Washington and created this massive mess? College educated men and women!

Yes they have and the middle class and the poor eat it up. Take Obama a highly educated person that is dummer than a post.

If you have a plumbing problem who do you want a Phd or a plumber? Give me a trade educated person anytime. :)

Oh but worker bees are stupid, not part of the liberal elite.
 
lol...Republicans borrow more than the D.
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You missed a few years. I said Obama all by himself has raised the national debt more than all the presidents combined before him. Now go find a current chart and what Obama is borrowing in his last year.

Look at your chart, it shows Bush for 8 yrs and Obama for 3. I have to shake my head at the stuff you think people will fall for. Christ Obama outspent Bush in just 3 yrs. Now get the next 5 in there.
 
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