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Question for Trump supporters...

AlbqOwl said:
So you are comparing Trump to Hitler but think Clinton's and Johnson's policies are preferable? That's pretty interesting.
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Trump doesn't have policies so how can I compare?
 
CriticalThought said:
Trump doesn't have policies so how can I compare?
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Policies are not for the President to make. Check your Constitution. Policy is not the President's job except for how the government agencies are run. Anybody who says he knows all the policies that are needed in the running of the government before he has the job is a liar. The best we can hope for is to know the goals the candidate has in mind. How he arrives at those goals have to be determined step by step once you have the authority to act. Ask any new manager or CEO if he/she knows exactly how to fix problems in the company before he/she is in a position to really analyse it from the inside. But you hire a new manager or CEO with the skill set to recognize and fix problems and make things work.

No candidate can give a blow by blow list of how he/she will do anything as President. All we can go on is what they see as problems from the outside and what their goals are.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Policies are not for the President to make. Check your Constitution. Policy is not the President's job except for how the government agencies are run. Anybody who says he knows all the policies that are needed in the running of the government before he has the job is a liar. The best we can hope for is to know the goals the candidate has in mind. How he arrives at those goals have to be determined step by step once you have the authority to act. Ask any new manager or CEO if he/she knows exactly how to fix problems in the company before he/she is in a position to really analyse it from the inside. But you hire a new manager or CEO with the skill set to recognize and fix problems and make things work.

No candidate can give a blow by blow list of how he/she will do anything as President. All we can go on is what they see as problems from the outside and what their goals are.
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I think you need to learn the difference between policy and law before you lecture others to read the Constitution. Or would you like to quote anywhere in the Constitution where they even use the word "policy"?
 
CriticalThought said:
I think you need to learn the difference between policy and law before you lecture others to read the Constitution. Or would you like to quote anywhere in the Constitution where they even use the word "policy"?
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You know what? Some posts are simply too. . . .well let's just say it is futile to respond. Do have a nice evening.
 
 
CriticalThought said:
No, it isn't. Not to Godwin the thread but Hitler told the Germans that Jews would be treated humanely. Forgive me if I want to know exactly what "humane" means to Trump.
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Ugh. Please don't compare Trump to Hitler. The two have nothing in common.

Hitler comparisons in general are hyperbolic and stupid.
 
AlbqOwl said:
The President cannot legally do anything different than existing laws without the consent of Congress, and Trump knows that
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That is giving him WAY too much credit. :shock:
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Maybe Trump should try to make his immigration policies more to the liberal world's liking by making it,you know, pay for play, establishing a Trumped Up Foundation where he could siphon off money to family members and get paid half a million a pop to talk about immigration, form classified and above plans, featuring immigration and, despite all warnings and laws to the contrary, promise to hire a private entity to run his server where he can put all this in emails under such labels as Don and Don Jrs racquetball, or Ivanka's wedding plans, recipes only for billionaires, etc...


Ok libs, help me out here, am I headed in the right direction at least?
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Or maybe Trump could try "withdrawing the medical benefits he had promised to his nephew’s infant son, who suffered from seizures that led to cerebral palsy" in order to win a lawsuit.

Trump helped draft will that excluded his brother's children: report | TheHill
 
Gaea said:
Or maybe Trump could try "withdrawing the medical benefits he had promised to his nephew’s infant son, who suffered from seizures that led to cerebral palsy" in order to win a lawsuit.

Trump helped draft will that excluded his brother's children: report | TheHill
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So, let me get this straight, Trump is helping his brother's children financially ... and then they sue him. He is supposed to be happy about that in a liberal world, I am supposing?

So if he is not hip to a flower child going around sticking flowers into the barrels of a soldiers gun while kicking the soldier in the shin, he is a bad guy then?
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
So, let me get this straight, Trump is helping his brother's children financially ... and then they sue him. He is supposed to be happy about that in a liberal world, I am supposing?

So if he is not hip to a flower child going around sticking flowers into the barrels of a soldiers gun while kicking the soldier in the shin, he is a bad guy then?
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You've got it a bit mixed up. His brother (Freddy) died in 1981. Freddy's children sued Donald because he helped his father, who had dementia, write the will that excluded Freddy's children. Donald retaliated by reversing a promise to help pay medical expenses on his nephew's infant son.
 
ModerateGOP said:
So you can't give me anymore information without linking to his website, and this is what I've been saying. Thanks for proving my point, have a good night!
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That is like saying show me but then closing your eyes.

Here is a bit more detail on a few items, all of which you can get from Trump's website... you say you want to know what his policies are but then refuse to go to the actual source? No, you don't want accurate information, you just want to irrationally complain.

"Nationwide e-verify. This simple measure will protect jobs for unemployed Americans.

Mandatory return of all criminal aliens. The Obama Administration has released 76,000 aliens from its custody with criminal convictions since 2013 alone. All criminal aliens must be returned to their home countries, a process which can be aided by canceling any visas to foreign countries which will not accept their own criminals, and making it a separate and additional crime to commit an offense while here illegally.

Detention—not catch-and-release. Illegal aliens apprehended crossing the border must be detained until they are sent home, no more catch-and-release.

Defund sanctuary cities. Cut-off federal grants to any city which refuses to cooperate with federal law enforcement.

Enhanced penalties for overstaying a visa. Millions of people come to the United States on temporary visas but refuse to leave, without consequence. This is a threat to national security. Individuals who refuse to leave at the time their visa expires should be subject to criminal penalties; this will also help give local jurisdictions the power to hold visa overstays until federal authorities arrive. Completion of a visa tracking system – required by law but blocked by lobbyists – will be necessary as well."

Its all right there. Your refusal to actually look is just a cry for voluntary ignorance.
 
Gaea said:
You've got it a bit mixed up. His brother (Freddy) died in 1981. Freddy's children sued Donald because he helped his father, who had dementia, write the will that excluded Freddy's children. Donald retaliated by reversing a promise to help pay medical expenses on his nephew's infant son.
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So which part, exactly, did I mix up?

Also, a claim by one side in a law suit does not make it a fact. " At the time, Freddy Trump’s children sued, claiming Donald Trump and his siblings had used “undue influence” over their grandfather, who had dementia."

We do not know any of the other family dynamics that may have entered into this, including the relationship of father and son and father and other son... nor how much the decision may have been predicated on helping the family grow the family business, etc...


Which discussion has no basis at all in my premise/question as to ways The Donald could go about making his immigration policies more acceptable to liberals.
 
ocean515 said:
The quote in my signature line is verbatim from Hillary Clinton.

Context has apparently been banned this election season by Hillary Clinton, her entire staff, the DNC, Democratic Party Memebers, Liberal/Socialist Progressives, and the majority of the major players in the MSM.

Please contact any one of the above to address your concerns regarding context. They are the ones who have decided to remove it from consideration.

Since they established the rules, Hillary's plans to deal with illegal aliens can be viewed below.
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ocean515 said:
I'm treating her verbatim quote in exactly the same manner as Hillary Clinton, her entire staff, the DNC, Democratic Party Members, Liberal/Socialist Progressives, and the majority of the major players in the MSM, have treated quotes from other candidates.

Again, if you have a problem with this equal treatment, you need to take it up with the parties identified above.
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er uh Ocean, you can only admit you're a liar. You cant admit someone else is a liar. I know you thought the "wah wah Billy did it too" defense was a good idea but its just you admitting you know you're lying. And fyi, "wah wah Billy did it too" wasn't even a good idea in third grade let alone a debate forum.
 
CriticalThought said:
What is Trump's current immigration policy?
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Fully and aggressively enforce current immigration law.
Build/finish a physical barrier on the Southern border.

The number one core issue on immigration is the well being of the American people.
 
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