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    Re: What exactly is wrong with "Nationlism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Problem is that nationalism so often leads to "we are better than them" attitudes, which is a problem for "them" if the nationalism gets so rabid that mass discrimination or worse happens... and that the nationalism basically blinds you to this, because standing up to such things would make you a traitor and not patriotic. We saw some of that during the Bush administration in the lead up to the Iraq war... just ask the Dixie Chicks and others that opposed the war.

    So a little being proud of your nation is fine, but if it gets out of hand then you got problems.
    If they are better then there is nothing wrong with understanding that they are better, or saying that they are better.

    The people who know the truth are better off than the people who dont.
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    Re: What exactly is wrong with "Nationlism"?

    There's nothing wrong with being proud of your country and it's accomplishments. It's not even surprising to see your own nation as morally superior.

    The problem with nationalism is how easy it lends itself to unwarranted and unnecessary senses of supremacy. How easily it is used to justify negative actions against other nations and groups simply because they're not of your own kind.

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    Re: What exactly is wrong with "Nationlism"?

    Don't work out, work in.

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    Re: What exactly is wrong with "Nationlism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    If they are better then there is nothing wrong with understanding that they are better, or saying that they are better.

    The people who know the truth are better off than the people who dont.
    So you are saying that Americans are better than Canadian.. or Christians are better than Jews or whites are better than blacks....? Rampant nationalism almost always leads defining them and us by race or religion. Rampant nationalism promotes discrimination
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    Re: What exactly is wrong with "Nationlism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So you are saying that Americans are better than Canadian.. or Christians are better than Jews or whites are better than blacks....? Rampant nationalism almost always leads defining them and us by race or religion. Rampant nationalism promotes discrimination
    If one restaurant suits me better than a different restaurant then that restaurant is better according to me. Same goes for countries. Same goes for Religion. Same goes for tribes of people within nations. If people are offended by me liking one thing better than another (and maybe putting my voice to that by pronouncing it better) well that is just too damn bad, they have to get over it, because I am a free man(nominally). They get to like what they like, and I get to like what I like.
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    Re: What exactly is wrong with "Nationlism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Merriam-Webster's definition of Nationalism appears to be quite reasonable to me!

    In fact; I personally already identify with most of this stuff__Am I missing something?

    Nationalism | Nationalism Definition by Merriam-Webster
    Simple Definition of nationalism
    : a feeling that people have of being loyal to and proud of their country often with the belief that it is better and more important than other countries
    : a desire by a large group of people (such as people who share the same culture, history, language, etc.) to form a separate and independent nation of their own

    Full Definition of nationalism
    : loyalty and devotion to a nation;
    : especially a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
    You're right, in fact I think there is something wrong with people who don't have a sense of nationalism.

    Being overly critical of the U.S. is very in fashion right now. We see a sense of anti-nationalism on this forum, by people who benefit from living here, but spend all their time saying how bad traditional values are, while never realizing how those traditional values created the prosperity that they benefit from.

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    Re: What exactly is wrong with "Nationlism"?

    It depends on how far you take it. The "my country, right or wrong" attitude can be dangerous.

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    Re: What exactly is wrong with "Nationlism"?

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    Re: What exactly is wrong with "Nationlism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    You're right, in fact I think there is something wrong with people who don't have a sense of nationalism.

    Being overly critical of the U.S. is very in fashion right now. We see a sense of anti-nationalism on this forum, by people who benefit from living here, but spend all their time saying how bad traditional values are, while never realizing how those traditional values created the prosperity that they benefit from.
    What "traditional values," specifically?
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    Re: What exactly is wrong with "Nationlism"?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Globalist scum like to resort to bringing Hitler or some other genocidal mass murderer to somehow paint nationalism is a bad light.
    Ever think it is nationalism that gets painted in a bad light specifically because I can reference Hitler or some other genocidal mass murderer as an example.

    You want to call me a scum, stop doing it in such passive and pussy manner.

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