For Trump's New Supporters

PirateMk1 · Jun 20, 2016

Casper said:
Good for you, and since you are so brilliant I am sure you know that your State will be allocating their electoral votes to Clinton, meaning who You vote for matters Not, enjoy.

We wont know till election day. I don't care what you think of my vote. Its not pro Trump, its anti Clinton. I absolutely despise her. If I had to chose between her and a rapist pedophile or something even more vile then I vote for the vile. I know what she will do, and it is everything I am against. So I don't really have much choice as I see it. People should vote their conscious, if you despise Trump as much as I despise Clinton then vote for Clinton. Or not. Makes no real difference in the end because we all will vote however we vote and will be stuck with whomever manages to get the enough electoral college votes.

If you wish to despise me because of how I intend to vote that's your business, but I hold no ill will against you and don't care one way or the other what you do.

Conservative · Jun 20, 2016

cpwill said:
I'd be interested to hear if any of them can articulate a case for Trump that doesn't reference Hillary, or the Democrat Party in general.

I will be voting for Trump because of his business successes as well as leadership skills. What he says isn't nearly as important as what he has done and accomplished. He is beholden to no one and isn't a politician who helped get us into the mess we are today. The entitlement mentality as well as massive growth in the Federal Govt. has to stop and an insider isn't going to do that

Conservative · Jun 20, 2016

Casper said:
Good for you, and since you are so brilliant I am sure you know that your State will be allocating their electoral votes to Clinton, meaning who You vote for matters Not, enjoy.

You are so right and that is why this country is in such a mess. California is the entitlement state, billions and billions in debt and yet apparently that isn't enough as they would continue to Obama legacy with Clinton simply because they don't know any better nor do they care. Entitlements are their way of life and with Trump in the WH, California doesn't get that Federal tax funder bailout, the world remains on fire, then continued movement towards that socialist utopia Obama wants, and the American people remain less safe

SHOOTER · Jun 20, 2016

Crovax said:
He's not talking about who support Trump but those claimed they would never vote for Trump during the primary and are now supporting him. People like Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio

what you trump haters seem to over look is the 11.5 million Americans that voted for trump in the primary elections.
trump has more votes then any republican in the primary elections in history,i thank mr ryan and the rest of the republican might want to take notice that the people have spoken,or are you suggesting that the 11.5 million Americans that voted for trump should have their votes thrown out,that they do not matter.
i thank those 11.5 million voters might have an impact on mr ryan's support.

Crovax · Jun 20, 2016

SHOOTER said:
what you trump haters seem to over look is the 11.5 million Americans that voted for trump in the primary elections.
trump has more votes then any republican in the primary elections in history,i thank mr ryan and the rest of the republican might want to take notice that the people have spoken,or are you suggesting that the 11.5 million Americans that voted for trump should have their votes thrown out,that they do not matter.
i thank those 11.5 million voters might have an impact on mr ryan's support.

Romney had the most votes ever for a GOP presidential candidate, what exactly is your point? and BTW GWB had 12 million votes during the 2000 primaries...

Conservative · Jun 20, 2016

Crovax said:
Romney had the most votes ever for a GOP presidential candidate, what exactly is your point? and BTW GWB had 12 million votes during the 2000 primaries...

This simple point is this, we have two candidates for the office with a chance of winning and that is basic logic and common sense. No Third Party candidate has a viable chance of winning and whether we like it or not it is going to be Hillary or Trump. I will be voting FOR Trump as the alternative is much worse. Trump was never my choice but he sure beats the alternative

cpwill · Jun 20, 2016

Conservative said:
I will be voting for Trump because of his business successes as well as leadership skills. What he says isn't nearly as important as what he has done and accomplished.

:lol: What he's done and accomplished is to drive a series of businesses into the dirt, severely underperform the market, and demonstrate that he doesn't know the first thing about actual leadership.

He is beholden to no one

And yet, his campaign is now sending out "Emergency!" Fundraising letters. It looks like they have so little cash on hand that they will be extremely dependent on the GOP to come up with large donors.

He said he was self funding? He lied. Donald Trump owes money to every major bank on Wall Street.

and isn't a politician who helped get us into the mess we are today

No, he simply supported and funded getting us into the mess we are in today.

The entitlement mentality as well as massive growth in the Federal Govt. has to stop and an insider isn't going to do that

:doh Trump plans to expand the size and scope of the Federal Government, and has run on refusing to reform entitlements.

But thank you for making the point that the only way someone (outside, perhaps, of the AltRight) can make a positive case for Trump is willful self-delusion.

Conservative · Jun 20, 2016

cpwill said:
:lol: What he's done and accomplished is to drive a series of businesses into the dirt, severely underperform the market, and demonstrate that he doesn't know the first thing about actual leadership.

And yet, his campaign is now sending out "Emergency!" Fundraising letters. It looks like they have so little cash on hand that they will be extremely dependent on the GOP to come up with large donors.

He said he was self funding? He lied. Donald Trump owes money to every major bank on Wall Street.

No, he simply supported and funded getting us into the mess we are in today.

:doh Trump plans to expand the size and scope of the Federal Government, and has run on refusing to reform entitlements.

But thank you for making the point that the only way someone (outside, perhaps, of the AltRight) can make a positive case for Trump is willful self-delusion.

What Trump has done is show that there are success and failure in the business world and consequences for poor choices. He lost and then won big so what better person is there to face the bankruptcy that faces this country and can deal with the challenges ahead than Trump. He is a billionaire, failed and then succeeded. You really need to get a grasp on reality

What you continue to post are opinions and rhetoric ignoring results. Your claim that he will expand the role and scope of the federal govt. is ungrounded in reality

cpwill · Jun 20, 2016

Conservative said:
What Trump has done is show that there are success and failure in the business world and consequences for poor choices. He lost and then won big so what better person is there to face the bankruptcy that faces this country and can deal with the challenges ahead than Trump. He is a billionaire, failed and then succeeded. You really need to get a grasp on reality

:shrug: I'm not the one trying to polish a turd into something that it isn't. Trump has proven that he is talented at making money off of screwing others, doing poorly at business, and bribing politicians to help him out. He is successful at being a businessman the way that Hillary was successful at being SECSTATE.

What you continue to post are opinions and rhetoric ignoring results.

Actually I continue to link to information that backs up my claims. Unlike yourself, since there really is not a positive case to make (in reality) for Trump.

Your claim that he will expand the role and scope of the federal govt. is ungrounded in reality

Actually it's grounded in his own claims. I'm not the one saying that Trump wants to expand the Welfare State to include Universal Healthcare - Trump is. I'm not the one saying that Trump wants to keep the current entitlement system, with it's programmed increases, Trump is. I'd give you the links to prove that, in his own words, but you'd ignore them for the reality you prefer, so... :shrug:

Conservative · Jun 20, 2016

cpwill said:
:shrug: I'm not the one trying to polish a turd into something that it isn't. Trump has proven that he is talented at making money off of screwing others, doing poorly at business, and bribing politicians to help him out. He is successful at being a businessman the way that Hillary was successful at being SECSTATE.

Actually I continue to link to information that backs up my claims. Unlike yourself, since there really is not a positive case to make (in reality) for Trump.

Actually it's grounded in his own claims. I'm not the one saying that Trump wants to expand the Welfare State to include Universal Healthcare - Trump is. I'm not the one saying that Trump wants to keep the current entitlement system, with it's programmed increases, Trump is. I'd give you the links to prove that, in his own words, but you'd ignore them for the reality you prefer, so... :shrug:

The problem is you blame Trump for DOING something he never was in position to do and ignore exactly what Hillary has done. Look, this debate is going nowhere as I will still to my logic and common sense knowing there are only two viable candidates with a chance to win in November. I will vote for Trump because of his business background and leadership skills neither of which Hillary has. You keep buying what is said and ignoring what is being done. I will vote for Trump and I am not going to change my mind or yours.

Provide me a link where Trump has implemented universal healthcare, taken away the guns of American citizens, destroyed relationships with our allies, and made the world less safe.

justabubba · Jun 20, 2016

cpwill said:
:shrug: I'm not the one trying to polish a turd into something that it isn't. Trump has proven that he is talented at making money off of screwing others, doing poorly at business, and bribing politicians to help him out. He is successful at being a businessman the way that Hillary was successful at being SECSTATE.

Actually I continue to link to information that backs up my claims. Unlike yourself, since there really is not a positive case to make (in reality) for Trump.

Actually it's grounded in his own claims. I'm not the one saying that Trump wants to expand the Welfare State to include Universal Healthcare - Trump is. I'm not the one saying that Trump wants to keep the current entitlement system, with it's programmed increases, Trump is. I'd give you the links to prove that, in his own words, but you'd ignore them for the reality you prefer, so... :shrug:

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Casper · Jun 20, 2016

PirateMk1 said:
We wont know till election day. I don't care what you think of my vote. Its not pro Trump, its anti Clinton. I absolutely despise her. If I had to chose between her and a rapist pedophile or something even more vile then I vote for the vile. I know what she will do, and it is everything I am against. So I don't really have much choice as I see it. People should vote their conscious, if you despise Trump as much as I despise Clinton then vote for Clinton. Or not. Makes no real difference in the end because we all will vote however we vote and will be stuck with whomever manages to get the enough electoral college votes.

If you wish to despise me because of how I intend to vote that's your business, but I hold no ill will against you and don't care one way or the other what you do.

I will not vote for either, I will leave that choice blank as a the only form of disgust with the presented candidates that I can employ. You live in California, hence your states electoral college votes Will go to the Democrat running for the WH, just as those here in Texas will go to the GOP candidate, it is just simple as that. Despise you? You take this far too personally, relax, I am not your enemy, we are both in the same boat when the election is done, oh except that I live in a State that still believes in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, I have lived in yours and watch it going further and further left daily. I would suggest moving to a better and more Freedom Loving State.

Casper · Jun 20, 2016

Conservative said:
You are so right and that is why this country is in such a mess. California is the entitlement state, billions and billions in debt and yet apparently that isn't enough as they would continue to Obama legacy with Clinton simply because they don't know any better nor do they care. Entitlements are their way of life and with Trump in the WH, California doesn't get that Federal tax funder bailout, the world remains on fire, then continued movement towards that socialist utopia Obama wants, and the American people remain less safe

It is going to get Far Worse before the events in motion complete their inevitable course. Sadly we are living in the Dawn of the Grand Experiment, history is always interesting to observe in action, but sadly we are not witnessing the rise of a Nation but the demise of one. Maybe the future Nation(s) that rise up from the ashes will have learned some valuable lessons and get something better built to replace what once was.

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