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When does Bernie attack Super Delegates as fraud?

Crovax said:
Sanders is not a fall guy but hes not running to win. And Sanders is not in a different branch of the party, there is only one branch of the democrat party. They pretty much all have the same view on every issue the only thing that separates them is how far they want to push the policies.
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Thank for concretely demonstrating that you have no understanding whatsoever about what you're talking about. Move along, I'm not even going to address a post that ignorant.
 
FieldTheorist said:
Thank for concretely demonstrating that you have no understanding whatsoever about what you're talking about. Move along, I'm not even going to address a post that ignorant.
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What you mean to say is that you can't refute my argument so are going to make a personal insult to try and hide your inability to have an intelligent debate.
 
haymarket said:
the idea that some are pushing is that Clinton is a done deal and is inevitable so Sanders should drop out soon. Thats not going to happen - nor should it.
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I have never made the argument that Sanders should drop out, the longer he stays in the better. The farther he pulls Democrats to the left the less chance they have in a general election. Bern baby Bern!
 
haymarket said:
I do think akrunner has a valid point that the state demographics with their heavy concentration of black dem voters no longer favors Clinton. Sanders is only going to have far more of an even playing field ahead of him.

What happens if Sanders wins California big on June 7 after wins in other states over the next three months? he could well win New York on April 19th and should do very well in Oregon in May as well as several other states.

Clinton could end up limping across the finish line a badly flawed and exposed candidate despite having the votes for the nomination

The only solution would be to tap Bernie for VP and unify the party the way JFK did in 1960 picking Johnson as his VP.
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Limping to a win is still a win and Hillary is going to win. As Bernie loves to point out the "radical" GOP does better when the turnout is low just as the low turnout the democrats are having this primary season is certainly helping him.
 
Crovax said:
What you mean to say is that you can't refute my argument so are going to make a personal insult to try and hide your inability to have an intelligent debate.
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LOL! Whatever you need to tell yourself. Like I said, I've no interest in discussing this with you. Go ahead and take the last word now.
 
FieldTheorist said:
LOL! Whatever you need to tell yourself. Like I said, I've no interest in discussing this with you. Go ahead and take the last word now.
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I dont need to tell myself anything, your cowardice speaks for itself. If you have no interest in debating on a debate forum you arent going to last very long here.
 
haymarket said:
Oh - I agree that it would be ugly. I am simply wondering when the time would be right to bring up the truth regarding the super delegates.
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Sanders can keep his super-delegates like the asshole Grayson.

Clinton should renounce hers altogether so Bernard's bellyachers can find others to e-mail their threats to .
 
haymarket said:
Let us say Bernie Sanders is able to replicate his success last night in Michigan in states like New York and California and a few others. And the delegate count between the two - minus the super delegates - is fairly close..... at what point does Sanders go after the very concept that such a large number of unelected delegates who have nothing to do with the vote of the people in the primary process is fundamentally a fraud to the entire process?

And what could be the result of such an effort?

And should he make that effort in the first place?
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Bernie is a superdelegate.

One that declared for Sanders well before any votes were cast, as I recall.
 
Greenbeard said:
Bernie is a superdelegate.

One that declared for Sanders well before any votes were cast, as I recall.
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So he is in a perfect position to criticize the concept. Excellent.
 
haymarket said:
Let us say Bernie Sanders is able to replicate his success last night in Michigan in states like New York and California and a few others. And the delegate count between the two - minus the super delegates - is fairly close..... at what point does Sanders go after the very concept that such a large number of unelected delegates who have nothing to do with the vote of the people in the primary process is fundamentally a fraud to the entire process?

And what could be the result of such an effort?

And should he make that effort in the first place?
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I have no idea but you have described corruption of the "political establishment" well. If the winner of the elections doesn't become the nominee then there will be some 'splainin' to do.
 
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