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Xmas for Dems - GOP establishment turns to Cruz!!!

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This is just too good to be true. The GOP country club establishment so hates Trump - and not without solid reasons - that they now appear to be turning to whack job Ted Cruz as the alternative. Bush flopped and Rubio seems to be going nowhere so now it anybody but Trump with Cruz winning the lead role.

For Democrats who want to keep the White House and take back the Senate, this is like Christmas coming early. Trump at least - for all his mountain of faults - could attract blue collar dems in November and has a certain roguish charm making him a wild card. I still think he would lose and lose big in November - but you never really know with this guy as he is defying all predictions.

Then we have Ted Cruz - the man who is hated by his Senate colleagues.... who is genuinely unlikable ..... who has the twinkle in his eye of the Uncle Ernie type who you just know has all kinds of dark evil secrets about him ..... and who is a far right wing true believer whose appeal to those outside the evangelical and tea party community is rather limited.

This article details the move to Cruz

GOP establishment creeps toward Cruz - POLITICO

Republican elites are begrudgingly embracing Ted Cruz—and hanging Marco Rubio out to dry. Panicked at Donald Trump’s dominance and dismayed by Rubio’s continued inability to do anything about it, some top Republican power brokers are turning to Cruz, putting aside their policy and personal misgivings to back the candidate they now openly label as their best hope to stop Trump’s GOP takeover.


“He seems to be the only guy who’s got some momentum, and is probably the best situated if there is anybody out there to beat Trump,” said Austin Barbour, a prominent Mississippi-based GOP operative. “That’s why there are many people like me—Ted Cruz wouldn’t have been our first choice, but as we go through the process, we’re reevaluating our vote, and he seems to be the guy at the top of the list.”
“Most people now think Ted’s the best vehicle to defeat Trump,” said Charles C. Foster, a Bush family loyalist from Houston who served on Jeb Bush’s national finance team. “I would say some are enthusiastic for Ted, some are just saying, ‘OK, Ted’s not my first choice, but anyone that can beat Trump, I’ll support.’”
“That’s a big motivating factor,” he continued. “I think Ted is the only possibility to stop Trump.”
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If you are a Democrat as I am - cue the band to begin playing the old FDR theme song "Happy Days Are Here Again".
 
So "yay", the Republicans are going to put up ****ty candidates and that will help the awful Hillary Clinton win!

Okay.
 
tres borrachos said:
So "yay", the Republicans are going to put up ****ty candidates and that will help the awful Hillary Clinton win!

Okay.
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What kind of **** do you prefer? At least Shillary is the solid-log type, leaves a smear but not a total nightmare to clean up. Cruz is the liquid **** type that seeps into everything and you can still smell months later, no matter how much ammonia you use.

Horrible metaphors aside, Cruz getting the GOP nod eliminates the anti-estsablishment vote, which is a big deal this cycle. He's also probably the only one that people genuinely dislike as much as her. I could see record low voter turnouts....... in the end, log or liquid, most people just don't like **** in general.
 
The establishment republicans hate ted cruz but they decided that cruz is more easily controlled than trump. They still cant stand cruz hes the lesser of the two evils to them
 
haymarket said:
This is just too good to be true. The GOP country club establishment so hates Trump - and not without solid reasons - that they now appear to be turning to whack job Ted Cruz as the alternative. Bush flopped and Rubio seems to be going nowhere so now it anybody but Trump with Cruz winning the lead role.

For Democrats who want to keep the White House and take back the Senate, this is like Christmas coming early. Trump at least - for all his mountain of faults - could attract blue collar dems in November and has a certain roguish charm making him a wild card. I still think he would lose and lose big in November - but you never really know with this guy as he is defying all predictions.

Then we have Ted Cruz - the man who is hated by his Senate colleagues.... who is genuinely unlikable ..... who has the twinkle in his eye of the Uncle Ernie type who you just know has all kinds of dark evil secrets about him ..... and who is a far right wing true believer whose appeal to those outside the evangelical and tea party community is rather limited.

This article details the move to Cruz

GOP establishment creeps toward Cruz - POLITICO




Read more: GOP establishment creeps toward Cruz - POLITICO
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If you are a Democrat as I am - cue the band to begin playing the old FDR theme song "Happy Days Are Here Again".
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I agree. THe best thing for the D would be Cruz. First off, almost all those Trump voters won't support Ted. And, more importantly, neither will swing voters.
 
haymarket said:
Consider the source. Andrew Napolitano is one of the most extreme ideologues allowed near a microphone to spew his nonsense. And therein lies another type of crime.
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You must be as he said, "In dream land"
 
WCH said:
You must be as he said, "In dream land"
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If that is a reality that he does not inhabit - its fine with me. Napolitano is pure slime and evil and all that is wrong with America.
 
haymarket said:
Consider the source. Andrew Napolitano is one of the most extreme ideologues allowed near a microphone to spew his nonsense. And therein lies another type of crime.
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The email thing is a lot of noise over nothing. Unless Hillary sent classified material to someone, she did nothing that has not been done before.

http://www.newsweek.com/colin-powell-emails-hillary-clinton-424187

The shocking truth about the last two Republican secretaries of state has finally come out: Colin Powell and aides to Condoleezza Rice trafficked in classified information on their personal email accounts. This is an enormous scandal!

Oh, wait. No, it’s not.
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This is just another "Ben---Ghaaazeee!!!"
 
WCH said:
Partisan much?
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Sure - I plead guilty to being a partisan on some things ... mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa ..... but its also the truth that Napolitano is pure slime and evil.
 
haymarket said:
Sure - I plead guilty to being a partisan on some things ... mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa ..... but its also the truth that Napolitano is pure slime and evil.
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Well, I'm going to work but, I would love for you to document the hateful accusation regarding the Judge.
 
WCH said:
Well, I'm going to work but, I would love for you to document the hateful accusation regarding the Judge.
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What I gave you was my opinion of the man.
 
Christmas for the Dems, huh ?

You guys are running a avowed Socialist who's openly advertising tax increases in a down economy and you're running a corrupt liar who's currently under a FBI criminal investigation.

Some Christmas
 
Fenton said:
Christmas for the Dems, huh ?

You guys are running a avowed Socialist who's openly advertising tax increases in a down economy and you're running a corrupt liar who's currently under a FBI criminal investigation.

Some Christmas
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Consider the alternative.
 
haymarket said:
This is just too good to be true. The GOP country club establishment so hates Trump - and not without solid reasons - that they now appear to be turning to whack job Ted Cruz as the alternative. Bush flopped and Rubio seems to be going nowhere so now it anybody but Trump with Cruz winning the lead role.

For Democrats who want to keep the White House and take back the Senate, this is like Christmas coming early. Trump at least - for all his mountain of faults - could attract blue collar dems in November and has a certain roguish charm making him a wild card. I still think he would lose and lose big in November - but you never really know with this guy as he is defying all predictions.

Then we have Ted Cruz - the man who is hated by his Senate colleagues.... who is genuinely unlikable ..... who has the twinkle in his eye of the Uncle Ernie type who you just know has all kinds of dark evil secrets about him ..... and who is a far right wing true believer whose appeal to those outside the evangelical and tea party community is rather limited.

This article details the move to Cruz

GOP establishment creeps toward Cruz - POLITICO




Read more: GOP establishment creeps toward Cruz - POLITICO
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If you are a Democrat as I am - cue the band to begin playing the old FDR theme song "Happy Days Are Here Again".
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None of this matters because, as much as I hate to admit it, Trump is a shoe in.

The "establishment" can kick and scream, cry and scheme, all they want to but in the end it will not accomplish anything more than making themselves look foolish and probably coughing up a few more Senate seats than if they would have just kept their mouths shut and went along with the voters.

Their options right now are to embrace Trump as their candidate and try like hell to get everyone to "play nice" or to continue on the path that they are currently on and go into November with a fractured base and a guarantee of massive losses. Either way, Trump is winning this thing and there's nothing they can do to stop it.
 
Jack Fabulous said:
None of this matters because, as much as I hate to admit it, Trump is a shoe in.

The "establishment" can kick and scream, cry and scheme, all they want to but in the end it will not accomplish anything more than making themselves look foolish and probably coughing up a few more Senate seats than if they would have just kept their mouths shut and went along with the voters.

Their options right now are to embrace Trump as their candidate and try like hell to get everyone to "play nice" or to continue on the path that they are currently on and go into November with a fractured base and a guarantee of massive losses. Either way, Trump is winning this thing and there's nothing they can do to stop it.
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Your post confirms what I have said in another thread: most the brave talk from those on the right who pretend they hate Trump will, in the end, pale compared to their hate of Clinton and the Democratis and they will vote for Trump in November.
 
haymarket said:
Your post confirms what I have said in another thread: most the brave talk from those on the right who pretend they hate Trump will, in the end, pale compared to their hate of Clinton and the Democratis and they will vote for Trump in November.
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There is a *chance* with Trump for the GOP establishment to still get a seat at the head table.(albeit, not the same seat that they are used to) There is no chance to get that seat with Ted Cruz... which makes their antics all that much more bizarre.
 
calamity said:
The email thing is a lot of noise over nothing. Unless Hillary sent classified material to someone, she did nothing that has not been done before.
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Hillary sent classified information over unclassified networks (which is a felony), at last count, 104 times.
 
haymarket said:
This is just too good to be true. The GOP country club establishment so hates Trump - and not without solid reasons - that they now appear to be turning to whack job Ted Cruz as the alternative. Bush flopped and Rubio seems to be going nowhere so now it anybody but Trump with Cruz winning the lead role.

For Democrats who want to keep the White House and take back the Senate, this is like Christmas coming early. Trump at least - for all his mountain of faults - could attract blue collar dems in November and has a certain roguish charm making him a wild card. I still think he would lose and lose big in November - but you never really know with this guy as he is defying all predictions.

Then we have Ted Cruz - the man who is hated by his Senate colleagues.... who is genuinely unlikable ..... who has the twinkle in his eye of the Uncle Ernie type who you just know has all kinds of dark evil secrets about him ..... and who is a far right wing true believer whose appeal to those outside the evangelical and tea party community is rather limited.

This article details the move to Cruz

GOP establishment creeps toward Cruz - POLITICO




Read more: GOP establishment creeps toward Cruz - POLITICO
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

If you are a Democrat as I am - cue the band to begin playing the old FDR theme song "Happy Days Are Here Again".
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he's on stage with carly now
and the audience coined for themselves another expression only the teabaggers can appreciate:
YUGO ted !
 
Jack Fabulous said:
There is a *chance* with Trump for the GOP establishment to still get a seat at the head table.(albeit, not the same seat that they are used to) There is no chance to get that seat with Ted Cruz... which makes their antics all that much more bizarre.
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In the end, Cruz would bow and scrape and say the right words of respect just as any nominee does if they want to win. And if he did not, he would lose as the party establishment would sit on its collective hands and do as little as possible the way the Republicans did in 64 with Goldwater or the Dems did in 72 with McGovern.
 
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