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Xmas for Dems - GOP establishment turns to Cruz!!!

Fenton said:
Christmas for the Dems, huh ?

You guys are running a avowed Socialist who's openly advertising tax increases in a down economy and you're running a corrupt liar who's currently under a FBI criminal investigation.

Some Christmas
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actually, the tax increases - and they are substantial - will hit those among us who are not experiencing a down economy: the top 2%. those of us in the 98% will be better off with Sanders in the white house
 
calamity said:
I agree. THe best thing for the D would be Cruz. First off, almost all those Trump voters won't support Ted. And, more importantly, neither will swing voters.
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Cruz reminds me so much of the televangelist Jim Bakker - same smarmy smile, same "I-keep-looking-like-this-because-idiots-think-I-look-sincere" expression on his face.

Ick!
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Cruz reminds me so much of the televangelist Jim Bakker - same smarmy smile, same "I-keep-looking-like-this-because-idiots-think-I-look-sincere" expression on his face.

Ick!
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I love those pics of Cruz as Grandpa Munster or Ed Grimley for the old SNL when Martin Short did the character. But there are times when he has this gleam in his eye that he really looks like some far too eager slimeball who pulls up to an elementary school and asks if anybody needs a ride. There is just something about him which suggests Mrs. Cruz either gives him a very long leash.... or enjoys being on a very short one herself. And neither is pleasant to think about.

The guy is just creepy and completely unsavory.

When Trump calls him Lying Ted and says he comes in waving his Bible high and then drops it - I suspect that is just the tip of the iceberg.

I can easily see him as some Elmer Gantry type busing into a house of ill repute and telling some woman "okay harlot, get on your knees and repent ..... and since you are already down there ........"

The guy just creeps me out.
 
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justabubba said:
actually, the tax increases - and they are substantial - will hit those among us who are not experiencing a down economy: the top 2%. those of us in the 98% will be better off with Sanders in the white house
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And bless Bernie for making that case.... and it certainly resonated here in Michigan.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Cruz reminds me so much of the televangelist Jim Bakker - same smarmy smile, same "I-keep-looking-like-this-because-idiots-think-I-look-sincere" expression on his face.

Ick!
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Cruz is, by far, my least likable candidate. He's just a sleazeball Evangelical hypocrite.
 
calamity said:
Cruz is, by far, my least likable candidate. He's just a sleazeball Evangelical hypocrite.
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seems even the evangelicals don't like his slimey persona
so much so that they voted for the prospective hedonist-in-chief, the donald, instead
 
cpwill said:
Hillary sent classified information over unclassified networks (which is a felony), at last count, 104 times.
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Good luck with that.
 
justabubba said:
seems even the evangelicals don't like his slimey persona
so much so that they voted for the prospective hedonist-in-chief, the donald, instead
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I suspect lots of evangelicals have practical experience with the holier than thou 'get on your knees and repent ' types.
 
I believe Sen. Cruz is the most likely of all the Republican candidates to defeat Mrs. Clinton. I would pay good money to watch him, who argued eight cases before the Supreme Court of the U.S., debate her, who skipped half her constitutional law classes and imagines being fired at by snipers. Of course I'm assuming she will not be indicted by a grand jury for federal felonies during the campaign.
 
justabubba said:
actually, the tax increases - and they are substantial - will hit those among us who are not experiencing a down economy: the top 2%. those of us in the 98% will be better off with Sanders in the white house
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:roll:
 
haymarket said:
This is just too good to be true. The GOP country club establishment so hates Trump - and not without solid reasons - that they now appear to be turning to whack job Ted Cruz as the alternative. Bush flopped and Rubio seems to be going nowhere so now it anybody but Trump with Cruz winning the lead role.

For Democrats who want to keep the White House and take back the Senate, this is like Christmas coming early. Trump at least - for all his mountain of faults - could attract blue collar dems in November and has a certain roguish charm making him a wild card. I still think he would lose and lose big in November - but you never really know with this guy as he is defying all predictions.

Then we have Ted Cruz - the man who is hated by his Senate colleagues.... who is genuinely unlikable ..... who has the twinkle in his eye of the Uncle Ernie type who you just know has all kinds of dark evil secrets about him ..... and who is a far right wing true believer whose appeal to those outside the evangelical and tea party community is rather limited.

This article details the move to Cruz

GOP establishment creeps toward Cruz - POLITICO




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If you are a Democrat as I am - cue the band to begin playing the old FDR theme song "Happy Days Are Here Again".
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Democrats can seldom win, but Republicans will always figure out a way to lose.
 
cpwill said:
Hillary sent classified information over unclassified networks (which is a felony), at last count, 104 times.
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And gave her password to a subordinate in order to do so.
 
jimbo said:
Democrats can seldom win, but Republicans will always figure out a way to lose.
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They certainly have found one this time. And maybe the Senate as an added bonus.
 
WCH said:
Might not matter if your leading leftist is in prison;

[VIDEO] Napolitano: Case For Prosecuting Hillary For ?Espionage Is Well Known, Well Documented? -
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After 30 years of seeing the Clinton's get by with everything from insider trading to fraud to selling favors and setting up phony charitable organizations, and all the way up the ladder to possible murder, without a single indictment, I don't hold out much hope that I will see Clinton behind bars in the next few months.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: there is no luck either way. It's a data point, not an assessment.
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An objective observation is that nothing will come of it.

For those of you salivating -- or trembling -- at the thought of Hillary Clinton being clapped in handcuffs as she prepares to deliver her acceptance speech this summer: deep, cleansing breath. Based on the available facts and the relevant precedents, criminal prosecution of Clinton for mishandling classified information in her emails is extraordinarily unlikely.

...political idiocy is not criminal.

"There are plenty of unattractive facts but not a lot of clear evidence of criminality, and we tend to forget the distinction," American University law professor Stephen Vladeck, an expert on prosecutions involving classified information, told me. "This is really just a political firestorm, not a criminal case."
Why Hillary Clinton is unlikely to be indicted: Ruth Marcus | OregonLive.com
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jimbo said:
After 30 years of seeing the Clinton's get by with everything from insider trading to fraud to selling favors and setting up phony charitable organizations, and all the way up the ladder to possible murder, without a single indictment, I don't hold out much hope that I will see Clinton behind bars in the next few months.
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I would be just as happy if she spent her elder years taking care of her grandchildren all day. Just not at the WH.
 
i don't think cruz can win the general, he's too far right.
 
justabubba said:
actually, the tax increases - and they are substantial - will hit those among us who are not experiencing a down economy: the top 2%. those of us in the 98% will be better off with Sanders in the white house
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Except for the fact that it is a mathematical impossibility to collect enough revenue from the top 2% to pay for all of the **** Bernie is promising.

Other than that, the plan is foolproof.
 
QuadpolarNutjob said:
i don't think cruz can win the general, he's too far right.
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You may be right, but Cruz is a risk I am willing to take. I will reluctantly vote for him against Hillary (not the case with Trump). And, his positions on social issues and immigration being what they are, there will be a silver lining to his defeat. Which is by no means predetermined: the guy is smart and knows how to talk to different crowds, and how to organize a campaign. Hillary, meanwhile, seems to be chronically incapable of appearing likable....
 
Cyrylek said:
You may be right, but Cruz is a risk I am willing to take. I will reluctantly vote for him against Hillary (not the case with Trump). And, his positions on social issues and immigration being what they are, there will be a silver lining to his defeat. Which is by no means predetermined: the guy is smart and knows how to talk to different crowds, and how to organize a campaign. Hillary, meanwhile, seems to be chronically incapable of appearing likable....
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but cruz DOES come off as likeable?



i will concede he has managed an effective campaign
but if he receives kudos for that success, should we not then acknowledge the donald has accomplished much more with much less money and effort
 
shagg said:
What kind of **** do you prefer? At least Shillary is the solid-log type, leaves a smear but not a total nightmare to clean up. Cruz is the liquid **** type that seeps into everything and you can still smell months later, no matter how much ammonia you use.

Horrible metaphors aside, Cruz getting the GOP nod eliminates the anti-estsablishment vote, which is a big deal this cycle. He's also probably the only one that people genuinely dislike as much as her. I could see record low voter turnouts....... in the end, log or liquid, most people just don't like **** in general.
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(To continue the metaphor)
It's too difficult to flush.

I suspect they're not going to get Cruz nominated instead of Trump regardless of what a bunch of local Party elites told Katie Glueck.
 
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