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Questions for Trump Supporters

If you want to keep Hillary out of the Oval Office, does the fact that he donated to her last presidential run concern you at all? How effective will he be at combating Hillary when just 8 years ago he was a huge supporter of hers? I have hated the Clintons since "Ending Welfare as we know it", and this hate has gotten deeper over time.

Hating the Clintons doesn't answer the question. If you loathe Hillary, ask yourself is Trump the best to make a case against her? Whenever he disagrees with one of her policy proposals, all she has to do is respond with "Well I had the same position back in '08 and you seemed to be OK with it because you donated truckloads of money to my campaign."

If you think the Washington establishment no longer cares about the little guy, does the fact that Trump tried to use eminent domain laws to force a little old lady out of her property so he could build a limousine parking lot? They no longer know that the little guy exists, because they have the power to ignore us, and they use it.

Doesn't answer the concerns about Trump's actions? Do you think the born into wealth, billionaire, east coast elitist, reality TV star, donor class Trump knows anything about the "little guy" other than how to pander to him? Does the fact he's shown over and over he's not above screwing the little guy to get his way concern you?

If you value candidates who aren’t delusional, does the fact that Trump was the poster boy for the birther movement bother you? A bit, But Obama is such a Prick it does not bother me much

Its not about what you think about Obama. Its what being a vocal birther says about Trump's judgement. At best Trump cynically attached himself to a movement he knew was a total lie and based on delusional conspiracy theories. At worst, he genuinely believes it.

If you want to get rid of the GOP establishment, does the fact that Trump has donated to and supported numerous GOP establishment figures (like Mitt Romney and John McCain. If would’ve been nice if Trump would’ve told us what losers and chokers they were before he decided to endorse both of them) He was doing business under the rules of the time, playing the game as it existed at the time. Of course this does not bother me, that so many establishment hacks think that it might bother Trump supporters just goes to show how stupid they are.

How is it stupid to question how Trump "played the game" for decades and only now suddenly is disgusted by it and vows to clean it up? And in the case of McCain and Romney, he's clearly playing Monday morning quarterback. He endorsed both of them fully and only now comes out and tells us what losers they are? Its easy to be right after the fact.


If you thought Obama ran an empty, substance free campaign on Hope and Change, does Trump’s refusal or inability to give any specific policy proposals that aren’t rendered meaningless by common sense (Mexico is going to pay for the wall) or basic math (we will save 300 million by negotiating better prices on prescription drugs when medicare spends 78 million currently on said drugs) annoy you at all? Does the fact that he turns every question into either a) an insult against his opponents 2) talk about his poll numbers 3) mentioning how “great” he is and how much “winning” he’s going to do ever make you wonder if he has anything of substance to say? I which that Trump would have more of an agenda . He needs to take care of this in the general,and I am sure that he will

That's a big leap of faith. He's been running for how long and has yet to offer any substantial policy that isn't completely implausible or rendered impossible by basic math? Shouldn't he take care of this now, since he's asking for our votes now? I'm not going to back a guy who makes vague promises about being "great" and "winning" but can't give me any specifics.

Does the fact that he railed about China when asked about the TPP even though China is not included in the pact concern you? Not yet, but it will if he keeps it up.

How long does he have to keep getting basic things wrong before it becomes a concern? Me, I personally like leaders who actually know what they are talking about and several times this campaign season Trump has shown to have little to no grasp of the issues.
 
If you like to know what you’re getting before you buy it, does the fact that Trump promises to rely on mostly unnamed but “great” advisors when it comes to almost anything bother you. A person with no core beliefs can easily be swayed by advisors and we don’t even know who Trump’s advisors will be. I’d like to know who they are if they are the ones that will be really setting policy, wouldn’t you? He needs to come out with more information on where he wants to go and who he will listen to

If you’re concerned about immigration does Trump’s flip flops on refugees, H1B visas, and his new found “flexibility” on the issue trouble you? No, he is fast on his feet like muhammad Ali because he is a winner, I trust that he will want to go someplace that will be good for America. I trust this guy. THat said, he does needs to tighten up the agenda that he wants to go into office under a mandate from the people to execute.

I am glad that I could help.

Again I see an almost religious faith in Trump. You recognize the lack of substance and policy, but trust that some how it will all work out alright. Isn't that one of the charges folks blasted Obama's supporters for? Falling for pandering rhetoric like "hope and change" and ignoring the lack of specific proposals. And we saw how well that worked out. Are we really ready to go down this road again?
 
...Oh, my...yet another "everyone with a brain MUST hate Trump" thread...(yawn)

Where did I say anything like that? I don't like Trump, that is probably obvious, but he's obviously appealing to something. I just don't understand it and was hoping some of his supporters could explain it.

here is the funny part. I agree with everything you say bad about Trump.

but....no one...no one...is 100% bad, and that is all that is in this thread at the beginning.

I never said he was 100% bad. Care to quote where I did?

It is time for a few haters to quit hating and start opening their eyes to the reality that he is WINNING and WHY.

Otherwise, a few people will be left in the charred rubble with a dazed look saying, " What happened?".

Those few people are STILL wondering how the Trump phenomenon happened and STILL have no clue.

If they would stop their hating and attacking, and stick their head out of the cockpit with open eyes, they would see what is happening.

OK I'm asking right now, explain it to me. Why is he winning? What about his campaign is drawing people in? I don't understand it. I freely admit that. His campaign strikes me as the worst combination of celebrity culture, empty pandering, demagoguery, and appealing to the lowest common denominator. Please, tell me what I'm missing.


SOME still believe if anyone supports a different candidate, then they are stupid, uneducated, a "lesser" person, and have no brain. I hear this all the time in describing Trump supporters. It is this very same snobbish elitism that is driving people to vote for him. The more they make sound bytes and threads like this, the more people are pushed into his camp.

I haven't called anyone brainless, lesser, stupid, or uneducated. But I see major contradictions between what some of his supporters claim to be (i.e evangelical or libertarian or tea party or whatever) and what they're supporting in Trump. So I've asked his supporters to explain these apparent contradictions.
 

How long does he have to keep getting basic things wrong before it becomes a concern? Me, I personally like leaders who actually know what they are talking about and several times this campaign season Trump has shown to have little to no grasp of the issues.

He is a builder, I dont expect him to know this stuff, I am voting for him for his judgement, once he is in the chair he will have a posse of experts to guide him. It is a possibility that his lack of knowledge right now will become a problem for me, but I dont foresee this happening.
 
Again I see an almost religious faith in Trump. You recognize the lack of substance and policy, but trust that some how it will all work out alright. Isn't that one of the charges folks blasted Obama's supporters for? Falling for pandering rhetoric like "hope and change" and ignoring the lack of specific proposals. And we saw how well that worked out. Are we really ready to go down this road again?

Given the options on the table....yes.

I want a guy/gal like Robert Gates wants, but we dont have anyone like that asking for the job this year. We have to take the best of what is available.
 
The tl/dr is that even if Trump isn't perfect the other candidates are actually worse.

Rubio? The guy who wants to expand H-1B visas by 5X and didn't start talking about border security until Trump brought it up? No I'm not a fan of people who ride on the coattails of others (looking at you Hillary).

Cruz? Of the "I'm a Christian first and an American second" style of politics? To hell with that. I'd rather not support a theocrat.

Carson? Dude was asleep at the wheel from the word go.

Kasich? Sure he's a strong candidate based on him being an OHIO governor but he's establishment through and through and only seems reasonable to some because he's not entering into the fray. He's not entering into the fray because he's milqtoast and nobody is paying attention to him.

For all the hatred flung Trump's way he's the one who got people talking about doing something about illegal immigrants.

For all the vitriol flung at him, he's the one who's talking about how the TPP was a horrible deal (along with Rand who has dropped).

When half the candidates were talking about starting WW3 to establish a no fly zone in Syria, it was Trump (and Rand Paul again) who was talking about how that's bonkers and that we should work with Russia to defeat ISIS.

It's Trump who's been rightly pointing out that we don't even know who these "moderate rebels" are in Syria just like how we didn't know who the rebels were in Libya. And it turns out that in both countries if those people aren't flat out front groups for terrorists then they're sympathetic to terrorists.

It's Trump who's been pointing out a few names of whom would be in his administration while none of the other candidates have said anything about whom they would be looking at.

It's Trump who's mentioned two Supreme Court justices he'd like to nominate while all the other candidates have been silent. This is especially glaring for Cruz who's been trying to claim that "Trump will nominate liberals"! which is b.s.

Trump is the one who's had the courage to stand up and say the reason we went into IRAQ was garbage and a waste of time while the rest of the pack were sticking their heads in the sand as if it never happened or shift blame to OBAMA.

Does that clarify it for you or are you going to stick your fingers in your ear and keep trolling with the rest of the Trump haters?
 
Does that clarify it for you or are you going to stick your fingers in your ear and keep trolling with the rest of the Trump haters?

Seriously. I invest over 5 minutes in a point by point response, and I have not rated so much as a response to this point.

Lesson learned.
 
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