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GOP Strategy?

Velvet Elvis said:
1) Stop pandering to the evangelicals. They're as much a fringe group as the far-left wealth envious liberals. It's possible to have religion without forcing others to follow it.
2) Drop the whole war against abortion. They've been losing the war, and losing traction by the day.
3) Drop the whole war against gay marriage. Again...it's a losing war.
4) Quit segregating people into groups. That's what democrats do.
5) Stop using politicians as puppets to push your agenda, and stop lying to the public (well...BOTH sides are guilty of this).
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IF you were to drop the people who vote Republican for those reasons...you'd be able to have the Republican Party convention in the public room of a small town Elks Club.
 
cabse5 said:
The bolded isn't true. Trump has beaten Hillary in some polls and, for example, Rubio hasn't beaten Hillary in some polls. Besides, the idea of beating Hillary is the farthest thing on the minds of Trump-Haters. Their name says it all.
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That's a name you gave them. It's not their name.

Trump will fail to beat Clinton. His negatives have remained up around 60% for months. Which suits me; Clinton would be better than Trump, as much as I dislike her and her policies. She's not a freaking Mussolini, at least.

Trump supporters must be so angry that they don't care what happens to the country, that's the only thing I can figure.
 
LowDown said:
That's a name you gave them. It's not their name.

Trump will fail to beat Clinton. His negatives have remained up around 60% for months. Which suits me; Clinton would be better than Trump, as much as I dislike her and her policies. She's not a freaking Mussolini, at least.

Trump supporters must be so angry that they don't care what happens to the country, that's the only thing I can figure.
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Maybe Trump lovers, like me, want the law, and the judicial, executive and legislative branches to follow The Constitution.

As far as the moniker I gave those who dislike Trump as president, it's true and their sentiment is true. The motives of Trump haters are sometimes self evident. No one has to, for example, call the sun not rising in the east (at all) a catastrophe for it to be known as a catastrophe... Everyone knows who the Trump haters are. Just as everyone knows who the Trump lovers are. That polarization is just another part of American politics. Didn't use to be. Doesn't have to be.
 
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cabse5 said:
Maybe Trump lovers, like me, want the law, and the judicial, executive and legislative branches to follow The Constitution.
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From what we know of Trump he cares nothing for any of that.
 
LowDown said:
From what we know of Trump he cares nothing for any of that.
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How about following the 13th and 14th amendments as they were originally intended to be followed, for starters?

IMO, Judicial decisions come down to ideology and precedent rather than trying to faithfully interpret The Constitution. This bastardization of The Constitution began way back in the early 1800s with Jefferson's SCOTUS and their separation of church and state edict.
 
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LowDown said:
From what we know of Trump he cares nothing for any of that.
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We know that Trump's enemies say he cares nothing for the US Constitution. From what I know of Trump - and that is increasing by the day - he does care.

The people who are voting for him are sick of the political class, which includes the overwhelmingly liberal media, and I don't blame them. I expect nothing but good from a Trump Presidency which will imo give US democracy the shake-up it so badly needs.
 
Sweden said:
We know that Trump's enemies say he cares nothing for the US Constitution. From what I know of Trump - and that is increasing by the day - he does care.

The people who are voting for him are sick of the political class, which includes the overwhelmingly liberal media, and I don't blame them. I expect nothing but good from a Trump Presidency which will imo give US democracy the shake-up it so badly needs.
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Trump is far from being an expert of The Constitution. He does have good leadership at his disposal, though, which he uses constantly for guidance: For example, Jeff Sessions of Alabama.
 
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LowDown said:
Trump doesn't even support the right to free speech.
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Hyperbole and rhetoric. Current American laws don't support free speech. What do you think happens if you, for instance, yell fire in a movie theatre?

Or say the N word?? At best it's a hate crime. At worst, it could be your lynching.
 
Frank Apisa said:
IF you were to drop the people who vote Republican for those reasons...you'd be able to have the Republican Party convention in the public room of a small town Elks Club.
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Maybe. However, I think that if the republicans abandoned some of their more hard line theocratic views, they'd actually GAIN in popularity. There are far too many people who don't want to see either a socialist or con-artist in the White House, but they are put off by the theocracy in the republican party. Same with the democrats. If they'd quit this whole "punish the successful" and "reward the poor," more people would probably gravitate to their side.
 
cabse5 said:
Hyperbole and rhetoric. Current American laws don't support free speech. What do you think happens if you, for instance, yell fire in a movie theatre?

Or say the N word?? At best it's a hate crime. At worst, it could be your lynching.
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Trump doesn't respect or understand free speech rights, and neither do his supporters, apparently. One does not go running to the lawyers every time one is criticized. Is that hard to understand? People have a right to say those things.

It reveals an authoritarian streak in Trump a mile wide. There is no reason to suppose that he will temper that if elected.
 
LowDown said:
Trump doesn't even support the right to free speech.
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That's an interesting point. Should the media be free to lie about politicians views without the risk of being sued for libel? Are the libel laws in general an unwarrented restriction on free speech?

If the media tells an outright lie - for example "Trump doesn't even support he right to free speech" - should they be immune from legal action?
 
Tonawanda said:
It seems obvious that the GOP wants to get Trump out of the way permanently. If my math is correct? He has gotten more than 50% of the delegates available so far, which puts him on course to get the 1,237 delegates he needs for the nomination.

If Rubio is their guy and him not having great results yesterday, and after a good showing by Cruz, and none of the other candidates looking like they might bail out, what now?

They could try to get some of the candidates to drop out, and hope Rubio or some other candidate can derail him, or give up and support Trump. Since Cruz and Rubio are in for the long run, and Kasich for the time being, they could also continue to hammer Trump, keeping all the candidates in trying to get it to a brokered convention.

Short of taking a contract out on Trump, at this time, what would you think would be the best GOP strategy?
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Vote for Bernie.
 
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