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GOP, A Disaster Spelled T.R.U.M.P.

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lol...Karl Rove is even freaking out.

Addressing a luncheon of Republican governors and donors in Washington on Feb. 19, he warned that Donald J. Trump’s increasingly likely nomination would be catastrophic, dooming the party in November. But Mr. Rove, the master strategist of George W. Bush’s campaigns, insisted it was not too late for them to stop Mr. Trump, according to three people present.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html?_r=0
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yeah, it does sound like a disaster for rove and the GOP establishment
 
lb_on_teh_cb said:
yeah, it does sound like a disaster for rove and the GOP establishment
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lol...as long as they are OK with a President Hillary and a Democrat controlled Senate, I guess they can say they really showed them thar establishment RINOs. :lol:
 
And there you have it - the asshole leadership's latest attempt to sink Trump before he takes the power away from their greedy little mitts - the sky is falling routine. They should know by now, we're not giving up this time. The membership is serious - it's our way or the highway fellas.
 
clownboy said:
And there you have it - the asshole leadership's latest attempt to sink Trump before he takes the power away from their greedy little mitts - the sky is falling routine. They should know by now, we're not giving up this time. The membership is serious - it's our way or the highway fellas.
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Yep. It'll be great come November. Vote for Trump or Hillary. Heads will explode all across this great land. I can't wait.
 
calamity said:
lol...as long as they are OK with a President Hillary and a Democrat controlled Senate, I guess they can say they really showed them thar establishment RINOs. :lol:
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The notion that Hillary will beat Trump is far from a certainty. The possibility of the establishment Senators going down IMO would not necessarily be a bad thing. Trump is not about Trump. Trump is about the establishment needing to be removed. McDonnell and those whut brung him there are the establishment.
 
lb_on_teh_cb said:
yeah, it does sound like a disaster for rove and the GOP establishment
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A lot of them can say BYE BYE to their careers. I saw someone on Twitter today predicting that a lot of these people would rather hand everything to the D's this year and try again in 4 years rather than allow Trump and his little people rebellion to take over the party, based upon their earning potential. Hopefully not, but maybe.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
A lot of them can say BYE BYE to their careers. I saw someone on Twitter today predicting that a lot of these people would rather hand everything to the D's this year and try again in 4 years rather than allow Trump and his little people rebellion to take over the party, based upon their earning potential. Hopefully not, but maybe.
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That's the way I see it.
 
calamity said:
lol...as long as they are OK with a President Hillary and a Democrat controlled Senate, I guess they can say they really showed them thar establishment RINOs. :lol:
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don't count on hilary getting bernie's support when the brokered democrat convention hands it to her against the will of the party. november going to be quite the surprise for a lot of people i'd wager.
 
calamity said:
lol...Karl Rove is even freaking out.
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That was an excellent article, and yes all the extablishment appear completely freaked-out!

Check this out:

"While still hopeful that Mr. Rubio might prevail, Mr. McConnell has begun preparing senators for the prospect of a Trump nomination, assuring them that, if it threatened to harm them in the general election, they could run negative ads about Mr. Trump to create space between him and Republican senators seeking re-election. Mr. McConnell has raised the possibility of treating Mr. Trump’s loss as a given and describing a Republican Senate to voters as a necessary check on a President Hillary Clinton, according to senators at the lunches.'

Wha??? WHA???

Is this real???

Freaking Amazing!

Also, I found this bit on the Ohian Governor interesting:

"Several senior Republicans, including Mr. Romney, have made direct appeals to Mr. Kasich to gauge his willingness to stand down and allow the party to unify behind another candidate. But Mr. Kasich has told at least one person that his plan is to win the Ohio primary on March 15 and gather the party behind his campaign if Mr. Rubio loses in Florida, his home state, on the same day."

And let's face it: Does anyone think Sen Cruz is going to bow-out in the name of the Party? Does anyone remember Cruz' performance during the government shutdown he orchestrated?

Yish, what a mess they've got on their hands!

And I'm happy for it! Good riddance if they fade way, and take the Dems with, please! :thumbs:
 
calamity said:
lol...Karl Rove is even freaking out.
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I like how "stopping Trump" at this point apparently consists solely of having Rubio add his own little (pretty lame) Comedy Central Roast of Donald Trump segment to his stump speech.

Good luck with that, GOP.
 
FDR used the song HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN as his campaign theme during the Depression.

And with Trump winning the nomination and fracturing the GOP - yes they are!!!!! :2wave::peace
 
Hawkeye10 said:
A lot of them can say BYE BYE to their careers. I saw someone on Twitter today predicting that a lot of these people would rather hand everything to the D's this year and try again in 4 years rather than allow Trump and his little people rebellion to take over the party, based upon their earning potential. Hopefully not, but maybe.
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Four years from now is a census election on top of a POTUS election--remaps are at stake for both parties.
2018 should be another disastrous mid-term election for DEMs.
DEMs are getting pounded by GOPs in voter totals right now and the DuNCe hasn't got a clue as to why .
 
haymarket said:
FDR used the song HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN as his campaign theme during the Depression.

And with Trump winning the nomination and fracturing the GOP - yes they are!!!!! :2wave::peace
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You assume DEMs will vote as they did in 2008 and 2012, not 2010 and 2014.
I've seen no evidence of that.
In fact, I see DEMs and INDYs crossing over to Trump .
 
haymarket said:
FDR used the song HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN as his campaign theme during the Depression.

And with Trump winning the nomination and fracturing the GOP - yes they are!!!!! :2wave::peace
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If a government of the politically connected, by the politically connected and for the politically connected means happiness for you, I suppose.

I can describe both Trump and Clinton in one phrase: Rent seekers.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
A lot of them can say BYE BYE to their careers. I saw someone on Twitter today predicting that a lot of these people would rather hand everything to the D's this year and try again in 4 years rather than allow Trump and his little people rebellion to take over the party, based upon their earning potential. Hopefully not, but maybe.
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They are forgetting the lessons from their own claimed party. They should start by taking a look at Teddy Roosevelt.
 
clownboy said:
They are forgetting the lessons from their own claimed party. They should start by taking a look at Teddy Roosevelt.
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I am still trying to figure out who Trump reminds me of most, but ya, I think it is much more TR than Hitler/Mussolini/Putin
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am still trying to figure out who Trump reminds me of most, but ya, I think it is much more TR than Hitler/Mussolini/Putin
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TR was anti-corporate trusts, Mussolini wrote the book on corporatism. I have no idea how Trump gets anywhere near TR politically/ideologically on economic policy. TR was very deeply involved in progressive democracy for a very long time for the protection of citizens/workers. TR welcomed immigration, understanding it was the base for economic growth.
 
calamity said:
lol...Karl Rove is even freaking out.
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The exit polls, popularity numbers, and his very wide appeal across many demographics suggest his only disaster would be to the gop establishment. he can not be bought as he has mastered using the media as free campaign advertising, and has no monetary ties to gop backers.

Dooming the party would not mean the republicians would lose, it would mean if he won come november they would have no control over him, which they would rather lose the election then elect a non team player.
 
beerftw said:
The exit polls, popularity numbers, and his very wide appeal across many demographics suggest his only disaster would be to the gop establishment. he can not be bought as he has mastered using the media as free campaign advertising, and has no monetary ties to gop backers.

Dooming the party would not mean the republicians would lose, it would mean if he won come november they would have no control over him, which they would rather lose the election then elect a non team player.
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I'd be amazed if someone who alienates his own party and half the electorate wins. But, I guess, anything is possible. Hillary could blow it...she's not very likable to begin with. But, my guess is that she will look like everyone's favorite grandma next to this clod.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am still trying to figure out who Trump reminds me of most, but ya, I think it is much more TR than Hitler/Mussolini/Putin
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I love Trump's NY bluster. It is absolutely amazing to watch him brawling against plastic characters like Rubio and Cruz. What throws me however is that a relatively normal candidate like Kaisich can't draw more than a handful of votes. I guess this is not the year for normal in the GOP.

I guess, we can't really count out Marco. He is pulling a lot of the heavy hitters his way right now. And, in some ways, he's a rather sharp politician. But, so far, he can't win anything except a narrow edge over Cruz.
 
calamity said:
I'd be amazed if someone who alienates his own party and half the electorate wins. But, I guess, anything is possible. Hillary could blow it...she's not very likable to begin with. But, my guess is that she will look like everyone's favorite grandma next to this clod.
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I don't know, america had elected a peanut farmer from georgia with prectically no good political experience, and the election after elected reagan, who the gop hated at that time.
 
NIMBY said:
You assume DEMs will vote as they did in 2008 and 2012, not 2010 and 2014.
I've seen no evidence of that.
In fact, I see DEMs and INDYs crossing over to Trump .
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The crossover Dems are already voting for Trump. He's not going to get any Sanders voters. And, Hillary's army is fixed. Swing voters like me will either vote for her or stay home. I doubt we'll vote for Trump--are you kidding?

I see the big wild card being a Bloomberg type jumping in, a solid Centrist who appeals to the swing voters like me. But, That guy would lack a base. However, a strong third-party candidate will throw a monkey wrench into the whole equation, which makes the race a complete toss-up.
 
NIMBY said:
Four years from now is a census election on top of a POTUS election--remaps are at stake for both parties.
2018 should be another disastrous mid-term election for DEMs.
DEMs are getting pounded by GOPs in voter totals right now and the DuNCe hasn't got a clue as to why .
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That's OK. If the Left of Center control the Court, the Senate and the Presidency, then I really want Righties in charge of the House anyway. Too much Leftist power is a very bad thing.
 
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