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GOP, A Disaster Spelled T.R.U.M.P.

Gimmesometruth said:
I didn't know that it hit it so hard that it can't see. Throw in the towel, its bleedin.
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You really need to follow your own advice as what you said applies only to you.

Again.

There is a difference between those coming temporarily and legally on a visa to work vs those who come illegally to stay.​

You haven't refuted that, so either your delusion is purposeful or you really do not understand.

Do you really not understand that there is a difference between the two?
 
Excon said:
Lame on it's surface.
It should be expected though.

There is a difference between those coming temporarily and legally on a visa to work vs those who come illegally to stay.
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Gimmesometruth said:
shortsighted fascist view, as usual. They (both) took yer jerbs!
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Oh wow! Another lame post by you. Figures.


Again.

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You haven't refuted that, so either your delusion is purposeful or you really do not understand.

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“I would be incredibly concerned if a President Trump governed in a way that was consistent with the way that candidate Trump expressed during the campaign," Hayden said.
Maher brought up Trump's pledge to kill family members of Islamic State terrorists. “That never even occurred to you, right?” Maher deadpanned.

“God, no!” Hayden exclaimed. “Let me give you a punchline: If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act.”
Maher responded incredulously, “What? Well, that’s quite a statement, sir.”
“You cannot—you are not committed, you are not required, in fact you’re required to not follow an unlawful order," Hayden replied. "That would be in violation of all the international laws of armed conflict.”


Read more: Former CIA director: Trump would be ignored by Armed forces - POLITICO
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I wish someone would nail Trump on this. My wife did 26 years USA, this bothers me.
 
NIMBY said:
You assume DEMs will vote as they did in 2008 and 2012, not 2010 and 2014.
I've seen no evidence of that.
In fact, I see DEMs and INDYs crossing over to Trump .
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Historical patterns say that they certainly will vote far closer to presidential years patterns of 2008 and 2012 than in off year elections.

Trump might get some George Wallace type Dems - if there are any left - but that will be more than made up by other Republicans who simply cannot hold their nose for that long while marking his ballot.
 
SDET said:
If a government of the politically connected, by the politically connected and for the politically connected means happiness for you, I suppose.

I can describe both Trump and Clinton in one phrase: Rent seekers.
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No it doesn't. But explain to me the other choices.
 
jimbo said:
The notion that Hillary will beat Trump is far from a certainty. The possibility of the establishment Senators going down IMO would not necessarily be a bad thing. Trump is not about Trump. Trump is about the establishment needing to be removed. McDonnell and those whut brung him there are the establishment.
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Jimbo...ya gotta be kidding here!!!
 
It's not just the elite establishment types that fear a Trump nomination but 70% of Republican primary voters can't stand him and a good percentage of them will refuse to vote for the guy in the general election. His unfavorables are higher than Clinton. He is the weakest candidate when placed head to head with Clinton where polls show Clinton beating Trump most of the time. He is the candidate the Democrats were hoping would emerge as the Republican nominee because he would be the easiest to knock off as he has a graveyard of skeletons in his closet that will make Clinton look less corrupt and untrustworthy.

When it is all over and the smoke has cleared we will be seeing Clinton sworn in and another 4 years of the Obama disaster.
 
vesper said:
It's not just the elite establishment types that fear a Trump nomination but 70% of Republican primary voters can't stand him and a good percentage of them will refuse to vote for the guy in the general election. His unfavorables are higher than Clinton. He is the weakest candidate when placed head to head with Clinton where polls show Clinton beating Trump most of the time. He is the candidate the Democrats were hoping would emerge as the Republican nominee because he would be the easiest to knock off as he has a graveyard of skeletons in his closet that will make Clinton look less corrupt and untrustworthy.

When it is all over and the smoke has cleared we will be seeing Clinton sworn in and another 4 years of the Obama disaster.
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Greetings, Vesper. :2wave:

Talk about choices! - and I thought some previous elections were baffling! :thumbdown:
 
vesper said:
It's not just the elite establishment types that fear a Trump nomination but 70% of Republican primary voters can't stand him and a good percentage of them will refuse to vote for the guy in the general election. His unfavorables are higher than Clinton. He is the weakest candidate when placed head to head with Clinton where polls show Clinton beating Trump most of the time. He is the candidate the Democrats were hoping would emerge as the Republican nominee because he would be the easiest to knock off as he has a graveyard of skeletons in his closet that will make Clinton look less corrupt and untrustworthy.

When it is all over and the smoke has cleared we will be seeing Clinton sworn in and another 4 years of the Obama disaster.
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Disaster was what Obama faced when he was sworn in. What we have today is just business as usual. I wouldn't say that is all well and good, but calling Obama's two terms a disaster is just silly.
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Vesper. :2wave:

Talk about choices! - and I thought some previous elections were baffling! :thumbdown:
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Yeah the choice between Trump and Clinton causes acid reflux.

This clip was posted on the net just an hour ago with Trump doing an interview on CNN. Before you watch it, you may want to wrap your head in duct tape to keep it from exploding. In the interview Trump is asked if he will denounce the white supremacist groups that have come out and endorsed him. Tapper specifically names David Duke/KKK and Trump acts like he doesn't know who David Duke is nor would he make a blanket denunciation of any white supremacist group. Unbelievable Pol. And this yahoo could be the Republican nominee.

 
calamity said:
lol...Karl Rove is even freaking out.
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Waddya mean "Even" Karl Rove?
He's been freaking out over Trump for a long time.
His requisite TV congratulations to Trump every time he wins a State notwithstanding.
He is one frantic chubby puppy.
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Vesper. :2wave:

Talk about choices! - and I thought some previous elections were baffling! :thumbdown:
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Hey Pol,
Just this morning I read a statement that I think nicely captures the current state of Republican electoral matters ...

"If my choices are a loud, vulgar know-nothing who will punch back; or a polite, respectful gentleman who'll stand there while his opponent beats him senseless, that's an easy choice to make."
 
Gimmesometruth said:
TR was anti-corporate trusts, Mussolini wrote the book on corporatism. I have no idea how Trump gets anywhere near TR politically/ideologically on economic policy. TR was very deeply involved in progressive democracy for a very long time for the protection of citizens/workers. TR welcomed immigration, understanding it was the base for economic growth.
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Did TR welcome illegal immigration? No? Yeah, didn't think so. :roll:
 
DRUDGE has a report from Roger Stone today that, if true, is utterly amazing even in this whacky year. They claim that Cruz offered to get out before Tuesday and endorse Trump in exchange for a Supreme Court appointment. And Trump said NO. And then Cruz will try to make the same offer to Rubio.

They also reported that a group of very rich men met Thursday with the Koch Brothers and pledged $75 million dollars to stop Trump as well as give another $25 million directly to Rubio. They also told Rubio that NO more money would be forthcoming if he lost Florida on March 15.

The claim that Mrs. Rubio called Mrs. Cruz and begged him to quit as the only way to stop Trump but she said no.

As all this were not enough they also report that Mitt Romney is ready to jump in for California and New York if Rubio fails to catch on in a few weeks.

All this is designed to STOP TRUMP.

Bombshell: Insider Leaks Koch Bros, Rubio Plan to Stop Trump » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

yeah - I know - consider the source. But its still interesting as all get out.

Heck, I think I will vote for the guy in the Michigan primary in ten days just to put the needle to the Koch brothers.
 
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calamity said:
The crossover Dems are already voting for Trump. He's not going to get any Sanders voters. And, Hillary's army is fixed. Swing voters like me will either vote for her or stay home. I doubt we'll vote for Trump--are you kidding?

I see the big wild card being a Bloomberg type jumping in, a solid Centrist who appeals to the swing voters like me. But, That guy would lack a base. However, a strong third-party candidate will throw a monkey wrench into the whole equation, which makes the race a complete toss-up.
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Swing voter? Do you really think you're fooling anyone with that ****? :roll:
 
countryboy said:
Swing voter? Do you really think you're fooling anyone with that ****? :roll:
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I swing vote all the time. As stated here many times, I voted for Kasich twice, Portman and Brown. I always vote GOp for my rep, who used to be Boehner. I'm not sure who will be on the ticket to replace him, but I may vote D this time simply because the R have gone insane.

I voted for Bush in 2000, and I might have voted for him again in '04 had he not ****ed up in Iraq so badly. But, after that, I haven't seen a GOP candidate for president worth a hill of beans.
 
haymarket said:
DRUDGE has a report from Roger Stone today that, if true, is utterly amazing even in this whacky year. They claim that Cruz offered to get out before Tuesday and endorse Trump in exchange for a Supreme Court appointment. And Trump said NO. And then Cruz will try to make the same offer to Rubio.

They also reported that a group of very rich men met Thursday with the Koch Brothers and pledged $75 million dollars to stop Trump as well as give another $25 million directly to Rubio. They also told Rubio that NO more money would be forthcoming if he lost Florida on March 15.

The claim that Mrs. Rubio called Mrs. Cruz and begged him to quit as the only way to stop Trump but she said no.

As all this were not enough they also report that Mitt Romney is ready to jump in for California and New York if Rubio fails to catch on in a few weeks.

All this is designed to STOP TRUMP.

Bombshell: Insider Leaks Koch Bros, Rubio Plan to Stop Trump » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

yeah - I know - consider the source. But its still interesting as all get out.

Heck, I think I will vote for the guy in the Michigan primary in ten days just to put the needle to the Koch brothers.
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I don't believe a word of that story. A mole at the secret meeting let the cat out of the bag? Yeah right.
It was designed to discourage Cruz supporters in hopes they would swing toward Rubio. Rubio hasn't won anything yet and it doesn't look like he will be winning anything on March 1 either. And neither will Kasich or Carson.
 
vesper said:
I don't believe a word of that story. A mole at the secret meeting let the cat out of the bag? Yeah right.
It was designed to discourage Cruz supporters in hopes they would swing toward Rubio. Rubio hasn't won anything yet and it doesn't look like he will be winning anything on March 1 either. And neither will Kasich or Carson.
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On the one hand I think Cruz and Trump are two of the biggest liars running for the GOP nomination, Rubio is getting pretty desperate- so who knows...

On the other hand how many PUBs/So-Cons would believe Willard uttered the crap about the 47% if it hadn't been recorded.... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
On the one hand I think Cruz and Trump are two of the biggest liars running for the GOP nomination, Rubio is getting pretty desperate- so who knows...

On the other hand how many PUBs/So-Cons would believe Willard uttered the crap about the 47% if it hadn't been recorded.... :peace
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I just read that Rubio was reading Trump tweets on stage and poking fun at the spelling errors. :lol:

GOP Presidential Field Scrambles To Attack Donald Trump, Deepening The Party's Split
 
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