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John Kasich's Alarming Power in the 2016 Race

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Once thought as a laughing stock among conservatives and a no-shot but sweet VP candidate by more well known candidates, John Kasich seems to be shaping the 2016 race behind the scenes, in more ways than one!

Let's just forget for a moment that one of the key reasons the RNC likes Kasich is that he can deliver Ohio. A must win state for our party during the general election. Now with only six people left in the race, John Kasich's road to the White House is more clearer than it's ever been. BTW, that's a very exciting thought to me. Top tier candidates are saying only one or two candidates could beat them, and I have a feeling John Kasich is on both of their enemy-lists.

I think it was Kasich himself who first coined the term "establishment-lane," during a joke at one of the debates about him being in his own, "Kasich-lane." As I cannot find a reference to the way this is said in the media since before 2016.

This is not a clip of the time where he said it in the debate but here is he putting it out there again.


It seems that even Fox News has been reluctant to admit the GOP civil war as it was going on under their noses during the 2012 primaries. They seemed to want to ignore it, and hope that it goes away. Brushing it off as a weird big tent thing. SO Kasich brought that to the forefront of the media and now everyone is not just talking about it, but describing it in this same exact way! I can't remember the last time that happened in modern day american politics before the term "Obamacare," appeared in right wing blogs. Even so, the left doesn't like using the term Obamacare.

It all reminds me of a scene in House of Cards, where (now President) Frank Underwood displays his own power. By coining the term, Trickle-Down Diplomacy and using a young journalist to get everybody to say it! This is all different from Trump's many five minute media blitz's in which he says some off the cuff remarks. That everyone forgets about in a day. This seems to me to be a very calculated move on Kasich's part.

You may all be wondering, OK.... SO what? It's only a word! We've been talking about the GOP civil war for years, who cares if the media finally decides to say it out loud and admit that it's happening. I say come on, you just fell for it! It's not just any word, it's Kasich's word, at least that's what I've been able to gather.

Then I noticed a weird thing happening on the campaign trail last night and then today. I noticed how last night the media went on and on about how bloody and brutal the race in SC will be and has been historically. They were showing clips of Bush beating up McCain and Obama beating up Clinton and Obama calling Clinton a racist. This morning I noticed something else happening contrary to what the media was saying. The top candidates were suspending their negative ads!!! There is no logical reasoning behind this. At least none that I can find, and the candidates' response as to why they were all of a sudden doing this made no sense either.

John Kasich keeps it positive in new South Carolina ads - CNNPolitics.com

Ted Cruz pulls campaign ad featuring porn star - Chicago Tribune

Will Ted Cruz Keep His Bizarre Attack Ad Running After Trump Pulls His? | Alternet

So why are candidates all of a sudden trying to seem like they are NOT attacking each other? Who was the first candidate that said he was going to be running a positive, issued-based campaign? Yeah it was Kasich! That doesn't mean, the anti-negative perception will hold. It's just an interesting observation.

The media, at least the printed media. Is quietly getting behind the man as well. As one of the most popular national newspapers in the country, the New York Times has endorsed John Kasich for President: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/opinion/sunday/a-chance-to-reset-the-republican-race.html

John himself, is on record saying that he was shocked and was in tears when he heard how much they liked him. He couldn't believe that they liked a Republican that much! John Kasich Literally Cried After The New York Times Endorsed Him | Mediaite
Kasich Racks Up NYT, Boston Globe Endorsements, But in 2016… That Ain’t Such a Good Thing | Mediaite

As time goes on Kasich's strategy is becoming clearer and he's running a really interesting moderate general election campaign that could build bridges, fill gaps, and hopefully in the end unite the country.
 
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Well, they tried like hell to push Bush upon us, and when that failed they tried Rubio - another fail. Now the establishment is featuring Kasich. He's just another strand of spaghetti thrown against the wall to see if they can get it to stick. Most of us are not falling for it.
 
Regardless of what anyone says about the "liberal media": the media loves establishment. Even though Kasich is not touted as being an establishment guy he's part of that network too. It's just that there were people who were part of the inner circle like Perry, Bush, Walker and Rubio. Those people have the RNC movers and shakers on speed dial but that doesn't mean the establishment won't hesitate to rally around a couple of other candidates.

The establishment media has been ignoring a lot of things for a long time. The undercurrent of American dissatisfaction with the economy is something that affects both liberals and conservatives and moderates. This whole "war on drugs" has been increasingly been unpopular among the American people but the media has also been slow to respond.

Trump and Sanders on in the Rep and Dem races represent that overall American sense of unhappiness with our current system and the only people who should really be surprised is the media. They've been neglecting to do their jobs for so long that they don't even have their fingers on the pulse of the nation anymore.
 
Porn stars in GOP ads? Okay, perhaps the world is coming to an end.
 
Porn stars in GOP ads? Okay, perhaps the world is coming to an end.

Yeah, don't they usually run as independents?

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Kasich can win. Neither Hillary nor Bernie can beat him in a general. I suspect that makes him a bad candidate to win the GOP nomination though. Funny how that works.
 
Kasich can win. Neither Hillary nor Bernie can beat him in a general. I suspect that makes him a bad candidate to win the GOP nomination though. Funny how that works.

About 3 % difference, which is SweetFA. HRC has high negs and he can swing that, 1.5 % or so in certain States
 
About 3 % difference, which is SweetFA. HRC has high negs and he can swing that, 1.5 % or so in certain States

I have no doubt K wins Ohio and will be super-competitive in Florida once the people there get to know him. He can easily win Micigan and Pennsylvania as well. None of those states go to Cruz. And, with Trump they are all a toss up and highly dependent on how swing voters warm up to his style. Kasich is nowhere near as volatile as Trump and much more likable than both Cruz and Hillary.
 
The bit about attack ads being pulled by multiple candidates is interesting. Mudslinging has always been the most effective use of media. Are voters getting sick of the constant heavy negativity?
 
The bit about attack ads being pulled by multiple candidates is interesting. Mudslinging has always been the most effective use of media. Are voters getting sick of the constant heavy negativity?

It could be possible. That's Kasich's go-to line whenever Trump says anything nasty. Jeb is getting really nasty and is coming off as desperate. I think he was attacking Trump earlier. So Trump is going to have fun taking Bush out, which I think was a main goal of his from the beginning. Then there is this:

Kasich Worried About Jeb Hurting Family Name With Negative Ads

With all this strategic positivity, Kasich is looking more and more authentic/genuine. Cruz looks like a mean sleezeball to anyone who is not a staunch conservative or early Carson supporter. Trump is too nutty, Rubio...well we all saw what happened there. Then all that leaves is Bush... If Trump knocks Bush then it's a stark contrast between both Trump and Kasich's campaign. That's for sure! The New Hampshire polls and election results may have shown us what future races in some states could look like.

So now we also see Trump trying to "be more presidential." http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...ean-language-campaign-trail-article-1.2528285
 
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Kasich has the same problem Rick Perry had: he's said mean things about people who buy into a core GOP tenet.

Back in 2011, Rick Perry's poll numbers started tanking literally days after the debate in which he said to those who oppose DREAM Act-like policy "I don't think you have a heart." (By the time his "oops!" moment rolled around later in the year, he was already down 18 points in the RCP average from where he had been on the night of the "heart" comment.)

Kasich has gone much further than Perry, essentially telling those who oppose the ACA's Medicaid expansion that they're going to hell:

"I don’t know about you, lady,” he said as he pointed at Kendrick, his voice rising. “But when I get to the Pearly Gates, I’m going to have an answer for what I’ve done for the poor.”

He was done before he even started.
 
Kasich has the same problem Rick Perry had: he's said mean things about people who buy into a core GOP tenet.

Kasich has gone much further than Perry, essentially telling those who oppose the ACA's Medicaid expansion that they're going to hell:

He was done before he even started.

LOL that's a story from October of last year bud. Kasich is seeing momentum now! There is no evidence that indicates what you are saying is true. 1. His poll numbers are NOT going down, and 2. Even if they were, it wouldn't be from something he said a year ago which nobody but you is talking about.

So no. He's not done before he even started. I think he's just getting started! He's one of the only polls that has seen a HUGE jump after NH. I mean before the recent SC polls came out he was at 2 points. Now he's at 9.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - South Carolina Republican Presidential Primary
 
LOL that's a story from October of last year bud.

The fact remains, he defends his expansion of the welfare state (via Obamacare of all things!) by wrapping it in the cloak of his Christianity. He certainly did the right thing, and that may even be the reason he did it.

But you're not going to get traction in the GOP by arguing a good Christian would support Medicaid expansion.

There is no evidence that indicates what you are saying is true. 1. His poll numbers are NOT going down, and 2. Even if they were, it wouldn't be from something he said a year ago which nobody but you is talking about.

His poll numbers never went up so it's not particularly surprising they're not down. He's sitting at 4.0% in the RCP average.

Even in your South Carolina average, his New Hampshire victory lifted him from 2% to .... 6%. Kasichmentum!
 
1. But you're not going to get traction in the GOP by arguing a good Christian would support Medicaid expansion.

2. His poll numbers never went up so it's not particularly surprising they're not down. He's sitting at 4.0% in the RCP average. Even in your South Carolina average, his New Hampshire victory lifted him from 2% to .... 6%. Kasichmentum!

1. While you are right currently, as my OP points out. Kasich may be more of a master media manipulator than Trump could ever be! Especially if I am right about the way he coined the term, "Establishment-lane." He did used to be a Fox News Pundit after all, with his own show. If he gets just a fraction of the happy evangelicals to spread his positive message then you'll see a battle going on between the Trump angries and the Kasich happies.

2. Yeah the majority of those polls were taken before NH which was when he was tracking 1-2% in SC. So of course the average is not going to go up. Just the recent SC polls. The two most recent polls after NH have him tracking 9%
 
I have no doubt K wins Ohio and will be super-competitive in Florida once the people there get to know him. He can easily win Micigan and Pennsylvania as well. None of those states go to Cruz. And, with Trump they are all a toss up and highly dependent on how swing voters warm up to his style. Kasich is nowhere near as volatile as Trump and much more likable than both Cruz and Hillary.

Well the Cons - Bush right to rise- PAC's are spending large on attack adds targeting Trump.
 
Kasich can win. Neither Hillary nor Bernie can beat him in a general. I suspect that makes him a bad candidate to win the GOP nomination though. Funny how that works.

Kasich is a gentleman and true to his convictions. I could live with him being POTUS.
 
Kasich is a gentleman and true to his convictions. I could live with him being POTUS.


"So, when Ohio state legislators approved legislation to de-fund the abortion business this week, Planned Parenthood responded with a massive advertising attack to try to intimidate pro-life Gov. John Kasich.

Kasich, who is running for the Republican presidential nomination, is expected to sign the bill. Ohio is one of several states that has taken steps to de-fund Planned Parenthood after it was caught in multiple states selling aborted babies and their body parts."

Planned Parenthood Calls John Kasich an “Anti-Abortion Extremist.” His Response is Priceless | LifeNews.com


As long as you don't care about Women's Health, world population and refugee crises.





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"So, when Ohio state legislators approved legislation to de-fund the abortion business this week, Planned Parenthood responded with a massive advertising attack to try to intimidate pro-life Gov. John Kasich.

Kasich, who is running for the Republican presidential nomination, is expected to sign the bill. Ohio is one of several states that has taken steps to de-fund Planned Parenthood after it was caught in multiple states selling aborted babies and their body parts."

Planned Parenthood Calls John Kasich an “Anti-Abortion Extremist.� His Response is Priceless | LifeNews.com


As long as you don't care about Women's Health, world population and refugee crises.





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I am glad he approved it. He didn't stop abortions, he didn't stop women's health care. The selling of fetuses is an abhorrent practice.
If you want a conversation about refugees, you have to tell me what your issue is.
 
I am glad he approved it. He didn't stop abortions, he didn't stop women's health care. The selling of fetuses is an abhorrent practice.
If you want a conversation about refugees, you have to tell me what your issue is.

The Refugee issue is GOP cutting funding for birth control of all types. They defund the UN agency that provides birth control assistance to the world. The GOP is sneaky, and does not admit it is anti-birth control, but that is their intent. research Chris Smith.


"As early as 1984, that view prompted the antiabortion Reagan administration to devise and unilaterally impose a much more expansive set of antiabortion rules governing the program, dubbed the Mexico City policy and later the global gag rule. That same year, activists from the same quarters began accusing the program of complicity in coercive abortion practices, citing the annual U.S. contribution to the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), which operates a family planning program in China. Ever since, Republican presidents have imposed the global gag rule and blocked U.S. contributions to UNFPA, while Democratic presidents have rescinded the gag rule and supported UNFPA. In between presidential elections, the political battles over these issues have continued almost unabated as congressional supporters or opponents have weighed in on one side or the other. "

https://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/14/4/gpr140407.html







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The Refugee issue is GOP cutting funding for birth control of all types. They defund the UN agency that provides birth control assistance to the world. The GOP is sneaky, and does not admit it is anti-birth control, but that is their intent. research Chris Smith.


"As early as 1984, that view prompted the antiabortion Reagan administration to devise and unilaterally impose a much more expansive set of antiabortion rules governing the program, dubbed the Mexico City policy and later the global gag rule. That same year, activists from the same quarters began accusing the program of complicity in coercive abortion practices, citing the annual U.S. contribution to the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), which operates a family planning program in China. Ever since, Republican presidents have imposed the global gag rule and blocked U.S. contributions to UNFPA, while Democratic presidents have rescinded the gag rule and supported UNFPA. In between presidential elections, the political battles over these issues have continued almost unabated as congressional supporters or opponents have weighed in on one side or the other. "

https://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/14/4/gpr140407.html

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Guttmatcher.org??? LifeNews.com??? Leave it to the one issue voters to use two sources from completely opposite sides of the political spectrum to attack the Party one candidate just happens to be in and use that as an excuse to say GOP Bad. At least that's what I think you are doing here. In any case, John Kasich has nothing to do with anything in that part of your argument.
 
Guttmatcher.org??? LifeNews.com??? Leave it to the one issue voters to use two sources from completely opposite sides of the political spectrum to attack the Party one candidate just happens to be in and use that as an excuse to say GOP Bad. At least that's what I think you are doing here. In any case, John Kasich has nothing to do with anything in that part of your argument.


"Ohio Gov. John Kasich, the latest Republican to step into the presidential fray, has widely been labeled the moderate in a GOP field that tilts sharply to the right. Climate change? It's real. Common Core educational standards? He'll take it. Medicaid expansion? Sure. Immigration reform? He's open to the possibilities. But his celebrated moderation disappears when it comes to reproductive rights. The religious * former congressman and two-term governor is a hardliner on abortion: As governor he's signed and supported some of the most stringent anti-abortion legislation in the country. "


How Ohio Gov. John Kasich Is Making Life Hell for Women Seeking Abortions | Mother Jones

"Contraception is not abortion. Contraception is not abortion. It seems so simple, that I don’t know why I have to say it over and over again. Yet I do, because lawmakers aren’t just refusing to believe medical professionals when it comes to that fact, they are now stating that their own opinion matters more when it comes to using the legislature to cut off access to simple birth control.

An Ohio bill that primarily is meant to attack insurance coverage for abortions in the state had an initial hearing this week, and proved that it was more than it appeared at first glance. House Bill 351 has proposed taking Ohio’s already existing law that any insurance plan either offered via the state’s health care exchange, or belonging to a public employee or person on Medicaid is not allowed to cover “therapeutic” abortions, and expand that to include “an abortion that is performed or induced when a patient is not diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy.”

Yes, that includes abortions for people impregnated as a result of sexual assault."


Read more: New Ohio Bill Would Ban Most IUD Coverage...and Potentially the Pill, Too | Care2 Causes

New Ohio Bill Would Ban Most IUD Coverage...and Potentially the Pill, Too | Care2 Causes

Kasich is as anti-Contraception as he can get away with.

https://legiscan.com/OH/bill/HB351/2013


"Cleveland Plain Dealer Editorial Board: Bill May "Directly Penalize Women Who Seek" Other Health Services. In a January 29 piece, the Cleveland Plain Dealer's editorial board called out the bill to defund Planned Parenthood in Ohio as an effort that may "directly penalize women who seek non-abortion health services." The board explained that "only demagoguery can explain a purported anti-abortion bill that wouldn't really limit abortion but really would limit health services that benefit women":

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/02/12/ohio-media-highlight-consequences-of-kasichs-pu/208562




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Yes, that includes abortions for people impregnated as a result of sexual assault.

Kasich is as anti-Contraception as he can get away with.

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You know you could have just said you don't like his stance on abortion and leave it at that. All those "scary" headlines are not needed, but if it's information that people need that's fine.

I find it funny that people are now labeling him as a real conservative guy when before he was seen as the most moderate of the bunch that even democrats would like to vote for him and I suspect some might have in NH.

So guess his campaign is doing their job to appeal to the south huh?
 
"John Kasich (governor of Ohio) believes climate change is real and manmade and has called for action against it, but has not said how he would combat climate change if elected. While he feels renewable energy should be a large part of our future energy mix and encourages research into new technologies, he supports an all-of-the-above energy policy, which includes approval of the Keystone XL pipeline and oil drilling on federal lands. Kasich opposes the EPA’s Clean Power Plan and would undo all federal fracking regulations.

Presidential Candidates: Who Believes in Climate Change? - Scientific American Blog Network





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Secy Clinton:

"During his time in office, Gov. Kasich has repeatedly attacked reproductive health and rights, signing 16 laws that have made it increasingly difficult for women to access vital reproductive health care and significantly decreased the number of health centers that provide access to safe and legal abortion,” Clinton said. “It’s time for Gov. Kasich to put the health and well-being of his constituents ahead of his own political ambitions and veto this bill to defund Planned Parenthood — a trusted health-care provider and lifeline for thousands of women, men and young people in Ohio.”


Planned Parenthood defunding bill may take time getting to Kasich | The Columbus Dispatch
 
"concerned with helping the poor, but he opposes the Affordable Care Act. He expanded Medicaid to get $13 billion returned from Washington immediately, with much more in the following years, with the goal of eliminating the progressive Ohio income tax. That would reduce the tax of his wealthy donors.To balance the state budget, Kasich has raised sales tax and other costs for ordinary people. He reduced funding to education, municipalities and counties. That has required more local levies and bond issues. Many of these have not passed, so the quality of education and services has decreased. Infrastructure is crumbling and wages have stagnated. The job-creation rate has remained below the national average. Ohio's median income trails the national average, ranking 35th by median household"


Kasich's image conflicts with record | The Columbus Dispatch


Rich people should Love Kasich. Happy valentine's day.
 
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