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John Kasich's Alarming Power in the 2016 Race

Gladiator said:
"John Kasich (governor of Ohio) believes climate change is real and manmade and has called for action against it, but has not said how he would combat climate change if elected. While he feels renewable energy should be a large part of our future energy mix and encourages research into new technologies, he supports an all-of-the-above energy policy, which includes approval of the Keystone XL pipeline and oil drilling on federal lands. Kasich opposes the EPA’s Clean Power Plan and would undo all federal fracking regulations.

Presidential Candidates: Who Believes in Climate Change? - Scientific American Blog Network





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Opinions are a dime a dozen

Gladiator said:
Secy Clinton:

"During his time in office, Gov. Kasich has repeatedly attacked reproductive health and rights, signing 16 laws that have made it increasingly difficult for women to access vital reproductive health care and significantly decreased the number of health centers that provide access to safe and legal abortion,” Clinton said. “It’s time for Gov. Kasich to put the health and well-being of his constituents ahead of his own political ambitions and veto this bill to defund Planned Parenthood — a trusted health-care provider and lifeline for thousands of women, men and young people in Ohio.”


Planned Parenthood defunding bill may take time getting to Kasich | The Columbus Dispatch
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Oh my, I guess she is entitled to her opinion as well.

Gladiator said:
"concerned with helping the poor, but he opposes the Affordable Care Act. He expanded Medicaid to get $13 billion returned from Washington immediately, with much more in the following years, with the goal of eliminating the progressive Ohio income tax. That would reduce the tax of his wealthy donors.To balance the state budget, Kasich has raised sales tax and other costs for ordinary people. He reduced funding to education, municipalities and counties. That has required more local levies and bond issues. Many of these have not passed, so the quality of education and services has decreased. Infrastructure is crumbling and wages have stagnated. The job-creation rate has remained below the national average. Ohio's median income trails the national average, ranking 35th by median household"


Kasich's image conflicts with record | The Columbus Dispatch


Rich people should Love Kasich. Happy valentine's day.
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Once again, opinion.
 
Lovebug said:
Opinions are a dime a dozen



Oh my, I guess she is entitled to her opinion as well.



Once again, opinion.
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So you believe that Kasich is actually more moderate than his signature on bills reflects?

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Gladiator said:
So you believe that Kasich is actually more moderate than his signature on bills reflects?

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It is my opinion that his decisions are based upon what he believes is best for as many of his constituents as possible. Of course I don't know his heart, no one does.
 
ModerateGOP said:
I cannot find a reference to the way this is said in the media since before 2016.
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The earliest reference I could find is from 2013:

A more accurate description of Brownback may be that he's driving down the center of the Establishment lane of the Republican Party. — "What's Eating Sam Brownback?," Kansas GOP Insider (wannabe), a blog, Oct 22, 2013​

Here's a more mainstream source in late 2014:

A look back at recent contested Republican presidential primary fights suggests that the race typically boils down to one candidate from the establishment lane and one from the tea party/activist conservative lane — with the establishment candidate winning. — "Don’t assume Jeb Bush will be the Republican nominee in 2016," WaPo, Dec 18,2014​
 
mmi said:
The earliest reference I could find is from 2013:

A more accurate description of Brownback may be that he's driving down the center of the Establishment lane of the Republican Party. — "What's Eating Sam Brownback?," Kansas GOP Insider (wannabe), a blog, Oct 22, 2013​

Here's a more mainstream source in late 2014:

A look back at recent contested Republican presidential primary fights suggests that the race typically boils down to one candidate from the establishment lane and one from the tea party/activist conservative lane — with the establishment candidate winning. — "Don’t assume Jeb Bush will be the Republican nominee in 2016," WaPo, Dec 18,2014​
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Thanks for researching this further Mmi. Perhaps Kasich read one or both of these articles for inspiration and one of these is the story/ joke he was referring to. As he said "they say there is an establishment-lane." So he got it from somewhere but nobody was saying the term back then as evidenced by your own lack of sources. Only after he said it, are people now saying it all the time! It's pretty incredible.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Only after he said it, are people now saying it all the time!
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Don't tell my Democratic friends, but I'm sort of secretly hoping that he'll keep on driving down that lane … and eventually, perhaps after a contested convention and then a hard-fought general election, take the exit onto Pennsylvania Avenue. There's a lot of work to be done, and we may need a talented and experienced manager acceptable to both sides to move forward.

He's a bit of a goof, but I think he has what it takes for that very special office.
 
mmi said:
Don't tell my Democratic friends, but I'm sort of secretly hoping that he'll keep on driving down that lane … and eventually, perhaps after a contested convention and then a hard-fought general election, take the exit onto Pennsylvania Avenue. There's a lot of work to be done, and we may need a talented and experienced manager acceptable to both sides to move forward.

He's a bit of a goof, but I think he has what it takes for that very special office.
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You aren't the only one.
 
I really admire and respect Kasich. I almost voted for him last week but ended up sticking with Rubio. My husband voted for Kasich. He is an exceptionally bright man and a very appealing candidate.
 
Jasich is popular with a lot of people, problem is the noise makers drowned out any logic or reason. I think he will be back in four years and that this was just a test run, but we shall see.
 
New national poll finds John Kasich would soundly beat Hillary Clinton. But GOP voters still just aren't that into him.
New national poll finds John Kasich would soundly beat Hillary Clinton. But GOP voters still just aren't that into him. | cleveland.com


“Despite lagging in support among Republican primary voters, Ohio Gov. John Kasich currently is the GOP's best chance by far against Hillary Clinton in the November election, a new national poll found.

The USA Today / Suffolk University poll, released Wednesday, found Kasich would beat Clinton 49 percent to 38 percent in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup. The next-closest Republican candidate is Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who the poll shows leading Clinton 48 percent to 42 percent…………..”

And IMO Kasich is the only one of the GOP hopefuls qualified to be President………..

But what the hay……….Let’s pick another loser…………
 
imyoda said:
New national poll finds John Kasich would soundly beat Hillary Clinton. But GOP voters still just aren't that into him.
New national poll finds John Kasich would soundly beat Hillary Clinton. But GOP voters still just aren't that into him. | cleveland.com


“Despite lagging in support among Republican primary voters, Ohio Gov. John Kasich currently is the GOP's best chance by far against Hillary Clinton in the November election, a new national poll found.

The USA Today / Suffolk University poll, released Wednesday, found Kasich would beat Clinton 49 percent to 38 percent in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup. The next-closest Republican candidate is Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who the poll shows leading Clinton 48 percent to 42 percent…………..”

And IMO Kasich is the only one of the GOP hopefuls qualified to be President………..

But what the hay……….Let’s pick another loser…………
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Yeah I just saw this too. He is beating everyone against Clinton. It's too bad he didn't campaign that hard in SC, but I think he's playing good old fashioned politics and the long game. If Bush messes this up, hopefully he drops out after SC and Kasich takes most of that 9% away.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Yeah I just saw this too. He is beating everyone against Clinton. It's too bad he didn't campaign that hard in SC, but I think he's playing good old fashioned politics and the long game. If Bush messes this up, hopefully he drops out after SC and Kasich takes most of that 9% away.
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During the first several debates he seems like a broken record of well in Ohio we did this and that's about all he had to say.
But I do think that the last few debates which were more localized he has had pretty strong performances in my opinion. he has made some good points and counterpoints.
I think that's part of his surge.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Yeah I just saw this too. He is beating everyone against Clinton. It's too bad he didn't campaign that hard in SC, but I think he's playing good old fashioned politics and the long game. If Bush messes this up, hopefully he drops out after SC and Kasich takes most of that 9% away.
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.....except new head to head match-ups poll now has Sanders beating all but one of the GOP hopefuls........and the GOP winner (I forget who) was by one point........ Seems at this point in time that old commie from New England kicks @$$..........Ain't that a hoot!
 
A touching moment from the Kasich campaign is going viral tonight after he had a heart to heart tearful moment in SC with a supporter going through a really rough time:

John Kasich Hugs Student in Emotional Moment in South Carolina - ABC News

John Kasich brought to tears by supporter - Business Insider


Mid-day he posted the event onto his facebook page and as of now, its gotten 125,000 views. Anderson Cooper also showed the clip at the town hall thingy on CNN just an hours ago. It's now more popular than Kasich's sit down with Colbert yesterday. This is just another peek into the long game Kasich is running. He's shooting for being the nominee at the convention.

I Remember Romney's people had stuff pre-packaged at the convention to show Romney being THIS guy!!! A more human and emotional man, but due to campaign in-fighting, they chose to stick with issues instead. Issues that ended up being luke-warm to the voters in 2012. Also Romney's people had the Netflix Documentary already filmed but they chose not to put it out there until 2013 and his approval rating went sharply up. It just goes to show the impact positivity and kindness can really have in an election.

I truly believe if Kasich keeps this up and keeps on highlighting these points while sneakily posting videos such as these. He could easily become our nominee. After all, this guy can now lay claim to the first truly organic viral video in the election!
 
ModerateGOP said:
A touching moment from the Kasich campaign is going viral tonight after he had a heart to heart tearful moment in SC with a supporter going through a really rough time:

John Kasich Hugs Student in Emotional Moment in South Carolina - ABC News

John Kasich brought to tears by supporter - Business Insider


Mid-day he posted the event onto his facebook page and as of now, its gotten 125,000 views. Anderson Cooper also showed the clip at the town hall thingy on CNN just an hours ago. It's now more popular than Kasich's sit down with Colbert yesterday. This is just another peek into the long game Kasich is running. He's shooting for being the nominee at the convention.

I Remember Romney's people had stuff pre-packaged at the convention to show Romney being THIS guy!!! A more human and emotional man, but due to campaign in-fighting, they chose to stick with issues instead. Issues that ended up being luke-warm to the voters in 2012. Also Romney's people had the Netflix Documentary already filmed but they chose not to put it out there until 2013 and his approval rating went sharply up. It just goes to show the impact positivity and kindness can really have in an election.

I truly believe if Kasich keeps this up and keeps on highlighting these points while sneakily posting videos such as these. He could easily become our nominee. After all, this guy can now lay claim to the first truly organic viral video in the election!
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Actually I think there was a video of Rubio talking about faith prior to Iowa that went viral, and no doubt plenty of Trump's stuff has been shared by enough of his fans to count.

Showing humanity is indeed positive. Kasich talking about losing his parents was the most powerful part of his talk, which I think also had some awkward bits. It's unfortunate that he feels the need to be a bit deceptive on the medicaid bit, but I understand why he doesn't want to emphasize his cooperation with Obamacare.


and now Trump is suggesting that the Pope and the President of Mexico might be conspiring against him...

but did end up with complimenting the Pope. Wise and classy, from a guy who often isn't either.
 
calamity said:
Kasich can win. Neither Hillary nor Bernie can beat him in a general. I suspect that makes him a bad candidate to win the GOP nomination though. Funny how that works.
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bible thumpers worry more about offending their version of God (by say voting for a Mormon) than losing elections to candidates who hate everything the bible thumpers cherish
 
Kasich is my favorite candidate among republicans.

Between him and Hillary, my vote would be up in the air, probably settled by the debates. Electoral-wise, it'd probably come down to the campaigning during the general. Romney would have done much better if that 47% comment didn't slip out.

Between him and Sanders, i'd go Sanders. Some of you claim Kasich would beat Sanders in the general, well i don't think that's so clear. Voter turnout is often shamefully low among the youth, but Sander's youth-appeal is unmatched by any other candidate. If Sanders could get really out the vote from the younger demographics, he could be unstoppable.

Kasich is a true conservative, something he doesn't have in common with his competitors Trump and Bush but that he does have in common with Rubio and Cruz. Rubio and Cruz have their own baggage, and Kasich has a strong leadership record in Ohio. Best of all, he comes off as not only an experienced politician and a true conservative, but also as someone who genuinely wants to make America better.
 
Absentglare said:
Kasich is my favorite candidate among republicans.

Between him and Hillary, my vote would be up in the air, probably settled by the debates. Electoral-wise, it'd probably come down to the campaigning during the general. Romney would have done much better if that 47% comment didn't slip out.

Between him and Sanders, i'd go Sanders. Some of you claim Kasich would beat Sanders in the general, well i don't think that's so clear. Voter turnout is often shamefully low among the youth, but Sander's youth-appeal is unmatched by any other candidate. If Sanders could get really out the vote from the younger demographics, he could be unstoppable.

Kasich is a true conservative, something he doesn't have in common with his competitors Trump and Bush but that he does have in common with Rubio and Cruz. Rubio and Cruz have their own baggage, and Kasich has a strong leadership record in Ohio. Best of all, he comes off as not only an experienced politician and a true conservative, but also as someone who genuinely wants to make America better.
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Kasich has and does work with people on the other side. He's not an ideologue although he is pretty staunchly committed to "conservative" principles. The Rubio-Cruz side of the equation are demagogues, IMO neither one is a true conservative. One wants to govern in God's image and the other is pushing this "New American Century" crap, which sounds pretty radical to me.

If Sanders can't even electrify Black voters in SC, then he certainly can't win a general election. The youth vote is nowhere near enough to overcome the anti-socialist vote.
 
Rumor this morning is Bush is going to drop out after SC. His campaign is running on fumes, his donors have abandoned him. I can see many moving to Kasich.

Boy, Trump is really screwing up the GOP primaries. Bush dropping out, Rubio almost invisible now. They were the 2 favorites months ago, and because of Florida and the electoral college the 2 the GOP was praying it would come down to.
 
Just wanted to take this time to go on record that I am now leaning towards Kasich in 2016. Sorry Marco. :(

One of Kasich's favorite bands is Pink Floyd. Marco likes electronic dance music. 'Nuff said? :mrgreen:

I got to thinking about it. Besides being low in the polls with a remote chance of winning, there really isn't anything about Kasich I have any problem with. I have come to detest the other candidates. (Except crazy ol' Bernie. I love Bernie. I just have problems with his dreams of unicorns and glitter.)

I reserve the right to change my mind as things go forward.
 
Captain America said:
Just wanted to take this time to go on record that I am now leaning towards Kasich in 2016. Sorry Marco. :(

One of Kasich's favorite bands is Pink Floyd. Marco likes electronic dance music. 'Nuff said? :mrgreen:

I got to thinking about it. Besides being low in the polls with a remote chance of winning, there really isn't anything about Kasich I have any problem with. I have come to detest the other candidates. (Except crazy ol' Bernie. I love Bernie. I just have problems with his dreams of unicorns and glitter.)

I reserve the right to change my mind as things go forward.
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You aren't the only ones who change their minds. I'm not in anyway stumping for Kasich yet. I hope he does well in SC enough to kick Jeb out. If Kasich does beat Jeb in SC, there really is no more chance for Jeb going forward and all Jeb's supporters will likely go to Kasich. If that happens it's more likely a Kasich/Rubio ticket could emerge.
 
ModerateGOP said:
You aren't the only ones who change their minds. I'm not in anyway stumping for Kasich yet. I hope he does well in SC enough to kick Jeb out. If Kasich does beat Jeb in SC, there really is no more chance for Jeb going forward and all Jeb's supporters will likely go to Kasich. If that happens it's more likely a Kasich/Rubio ticket could emerge.
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I could hitch my wagon to that.
 
Well Everybody seemed to be the winner in South Carolina. So Kasich jumped on board and celebrated the fact that he is the only governor left in the race. That IS quite an accomplishment in itself because there were lots and lots of more popular governors that started out with a higher profile than Kasich.

South Carolina 2016: John Kasich team declares him winner of 'governors bracket' - POLITICO

Kasich is poised to pick up a lot of Jeb supporters, however what's puzzling is that the Governor has not made any campaign stops in Nevada. Instead he his making is way towards the North East this week to Michigan, Vermont, and Massachusetts. Kasich knows that's safer ground for him and his campaign might be content enough with whatever Jeb supporters go their way in Nevada without even having to try too hard.

John Kasich Campaign Revels in Jeb Bush?s Struggles - The New York Times
 
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