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Michael Savage bashed Donald Trump, but now supports him.

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Michael Savage bashed Donald Trump, but now supports him. It amazes me how someone who bashed Donald Trump in one of his in his book the "Political Zoo" for his flip flopping, use of bankruptcy to settle his debts, "gaudy architecture","overpriced luxury homes" and "socialist economics and soft-care cultural Trotskyism" is now one of Trump's biggest cheer leaders.He is even using the line that RINOs and their supporters use which is "wouldn't you rather have someone who agrees with you 50%, 60% or 70% of the time than someone who does not agree with you"? And if he is saying things like who made you the pope of conservatism to justify his support for someone who is obviously not a conservative. I think his support for Trump is much like Ann Coulter's support for Trump. They don't give a **** that he has flip flopped dozens of times, donated to liberal candidates, supported Obama, and supported liberal causes. What they care about is the fact Trump claiming to be opposed to illegal immigration and that is the one issue they care about. Coulter said Trump can perform abortions in the white house after immigration plan.
 
jamesrage said:
Michael Savage bashed Donald Trump, but now supports him. It amazes me how someone who bashed Donald Trump in one of his in his book the "Political Zoo" for his flip flopping, use of bankruptcy to settle his debts, "gaudy architecture","overpriced luxury homes" and "socialist economics and soft-care cultural Trotskyism" is now one of Trump's biggest cheer leaders.He is even using the line that RINOs and their supporters use which is "wouldn't you rather have someone who agrees with you 50%, 60% or 70% of the time than someone who does not agree with you"? And if he is saying things like who made you the pope of conservatism to justify his support for someone who is obviously not a conservative. I think his support for Trump is much like Ann Coulter's support for Trump. They don't give a **** that he has flip flopped dozens of times, donated to liberal candidates, supported Obama, and supported liberal causes. What they care about is the fact Trump claiming to be opposed to illegal immigration and that is the one issue they care about. Coulter said Trump can perform abortions in the white house after immigration plan.
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He is a talk radio host, they don't have real opinions, they just follow what is best for ratings.
 
jamesrage said:
Michael Savage bashed Donald Trump, but now supports him. It amazes me how someone who bashed Donald Trump in one of his in his book the "Political Zoo" for his flip flopping, use of bankruptcy to settle his debts, "gaudy architecture","overpriced luxury homes" and "socialist economics and soft-care cultural Trotskyism" is now one of Trump's biggest cheer leaders.He is even using the line that RINOs and their supporters use which is "wouldn't you rather have someone who agrees with you 50%, 60% or 70% of the time than someone who does not agree with you"? And if he is saying things like who made you the pope of conservatism to justify his support for someone who is obviously not a conservative. I think his support for Trump is much like Ann Coulter's support for Trump. They don't give a **** that he has flip flopped dozens of times, donated to liberal candidates, supported Obama, and supported liberal causes. What they care about is the fact Trump claiming to be opposed to illegal immigration and that is the one issue they care about. Coulter said Trump can perform abortions in the white house after immigration plan.
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I'm surprised anyone cares what Michael Weiner thinks or says.
 
 
 
Who cares? Savage and Coulter are political bomb throwers. Not a word that passes through either of their lips is worth a bootful of lukewarm piss.
 
jamesrage said:
Michael Savage bashed Donald Trump, but now supports him. It amazes me how someone who bashed Donald Trump in one of his in his book the "Political Zoo" for his flip flopping, use of bankruptcy to settle his debts, "gaudy architecture","overpriced luxury homes" and "socialist economics and soft-care cultural Trotskyism" is now one of Trump's biggest cheer leaders.He is even using the line that RINOs and their supporters use which is "wouldn't you rather have someone who agrees with you 50%, 60% or 70% of the time than someone who does not agree with you"? And if he is saying things like who made you the pope of conservatism to justify his support for someone who is obviously not a conservative. I think his support for Trump is much like Ann Coulter's support for Trump. They don't give a **** that he has flip flopped dozens of times, donated to liberal candidates, supported Obama, and supported liberal causes. What they care about is the fact Trump claiming to be opposed to illegal immigration and that is the one issue they care about. Coulter said Trump can perform abortions in the white house after immigration plan.
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Just politics as usual. Remember the fights between Hillary and Obama in '08? Yet, to hear her talk today, they never saw things differently. The "birther" thing actually started in her campaign crew. They're all fickle. They hate one candidate one day and love him the next.

All the people who are bashing Trump/Cruz/Rubio, et.al, right now, will all coalesce behind whoever gets the nod. It happens every darned time.
 
A talk radio host likes the bombastic idiocy of Donald Trump? Jesus, that's shocking. Ordinarily they have totally opposite personalities and outlooks on life.
 
HowardBThiname said:
Just politics as usual. Remember the fights between Hillary and Obama in '08? Yet, to hear her talk today, they never saw things differently. The "birther" thing actually started in her campaign crew. They're all fickle. They hate one candidate one day and love him the next.

All the people who are bashing Trump/Cruz/Rubio, et.al, right now, will all coalesce behind whoever gets the nod. It happens every darned time.
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FYI...

"...There is no record that Clinton herself or anyone within her campaign ever advanced the charge that Obama was not born in the United States. A review by our fellow fact-checkers at Factcheck.org reported that no journalist who investigated this ever found a connection to anyone in the Clinton organization..."

Did Hillary Clinton start the Obama birther movement? | PolitiFact​
 
Moot said:
FYI...

"...There is no record that Clinton herself or anyone within her campaign ever advanced the charge that Obama was not born in the United States. A review by our fellow fact-checkers at Factcheck.org reported that no journalist who investigated this ever found a connection to anyone in the Clinton organization..."

Did Hillary Clinton start the Obama birther movement? | PolitiFact​
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Okay, so it started with her supporters - not her campaign. That's good to know. A lot of bad blood between the two, however. Have you read "Blood Feud: The Clintons vs. the Obamas?"

Some amazing revelations about the animosity between them.
 
HowardBThiname said:
Okay, so it started with her supporters - not her campaign. That's good to know. A lot of bad blood between the two, however. Have you read "Blood Feud: The Clintons vs. the Obamas?"

Some amazing revelations about the animosity between them.
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Not so much animosity that Obama asked her to be his secretary of state and why she's now running on a platform of Obama's policies.



But no, I haven't read "Blood Feud".....


"..The book was attacked not only by liberals, but by a neoconservative as well. John Podhoretz wrote in the New York Post, "Thirty pages into it, I wanted to take a shower. Sixty pages into it, I wanted to be decontaminated. And 200 pages into it, I wanted someone to drive stakes through my eyes so I wouldn't have to suffer through another word."[10] In National Review James Geraghty wrote, “Folks, there are plenty of arguments against Hillary Clinton, her policies, her views, her proposals, and her philosophies. This stuff ain’t it. Nobody on the right, left, or center ought to stoop to this level.”[11] ...."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Klein​


That was the worst review of a writer that I think I've ever seen...ever. LOL But wait, there's more...


"... Klein has also come under fire for his use of anonymous quotes, purported to be from the subjects of his books, which he claims he received from anonymous insiders. The credibility of such quotes has been questioned by writers such as Joe Conason,[15] Salon's Simon Malloy [16] and conservative commentators Rush Limbaugh[17] and Peggy Noonan.[18] "Some of the quotes strike me as odd, in the sense that I don't know people who speak this way," Limbaugh said of Klein's work, describing the sources as "grade school chatter."​


LOL Sorry, but I don't think I'll be reading Klien's latest book any time soon. I don't want to have to drive stakes through my eyes. LOL
 
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Moot said:
Not so much animosity that Obama asked her to be his secretary of state and why she's now running on a platform of Obama's policies.



But no, I haven't read "Blood Feud".....


"..The book was attacked not only by liberals, but by a neoconservative as well. John Podhoretz wrote in the New York Post, "Thirty pages into it, I wanted to take a shower. Sixty pages into it, I wanted to be decontaminated. And 200 pages into it, I wanted someone to drive stakes through my eyes so I wouldn't have to suffer through another word."[10] In National Review James Geraghty wrote, “Folks, there are plenty of arguments against Hillary Clinton, her policies, her views, her proposals, and her philosophies. This stuff ain’t it. Nobody on the right, left, or center ought to stoop to this level.”[11] ...."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Klein​


That was the worst review of a writer that I think I've ever seen...ever. LOL But wait, there's more...


"... Klein has also come under fire for his use of anonymous quotes, purported to be from the subjects of his books, which he claims he received from anonymous insiders. The credibility of such quotes has been questioned by writers such as Joe Conason,[15] Salon's Simon Malloy [16] and conservative commentators Rush Limbaugh[17] and Peggy Noonan.[18] "Some of the quotes strike me as odd, in the sense that I don't know people who speak this way," Limbaugh said of Klein's work, describing the sources as "grade school chatter."​


LOL Sorry, but I don't think I'll be reading Klien's latest book any time soon. I don't want to have to drive stakes through my eyes. LOL
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LOL --- all books get bad reviews. Someone is always a little pissy.

I'm sure you saw -- if you looked on the Amazon site that it's still one of the highest-rated books around. I read it. I'm not going to review it for you but I'll say that it's quite enlightening.

I only bought it because I remembered the when Chelsea got married and, although many, many important people were invited, the Obama's were noticeably shunned. When Bill was questioned about the guest list - he defended Chelsea - saying "It's her wedding. She gets to choose who comes." And, of course, he was right...but, it was still obvious what happened.

Book or not - it's obvious there's a LOT of bad blood between the two families.

To think they cozied up after the negative primaries both of them ran is pretty silly. Offering her Sec of State was a given---to make sure she kept her mouth shut.

If you think they're unlike other politicians, well....I just gotta laugh.
 
HowardBThiname said:
Just politics as usual. Remember the fights between Hillary and Obama in '08? Yet, to hear her talk today, they never saw things differently. The "birther" thing actually started in her campaign crew. They're all fickle. They hate one candidate one day and love him the next.

All the people who are bashing Trump/Cruz/Rubio, et.al, right now, will all coalesce behind whoever gets the nod. It happens every darned time.
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That is true. Its how people who espoused conservative beliefs turned around and voted for a guy who does not. Mitt Romney did a bunch of things they claimed to despise, but yet supported him.
 
HowardBThiname said:
Just politics as usual. Remember the fights between Hillary and Obama in '08? Yet, to hear her talk today, they never saw things differently. The "birther" thing actually started in her campaign crew. They're all fickle. They hate one candidate one day and love him the next.

All the people who are bashing Trump/Cruz/Rubio, et.al, right now, will all coalesce behind whoever gets the nod. It happens every darned time.
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Some of the things Republicans are saying about Trump and Cruz cannot be taken back. I doubt many who made them will "rally" behind either one. You can't say a candidate will spell the end of the Republican party and turn around and just say "never mind".
Hillary endorsed Obama soon after she dropped out and she was not responsible for what some of her staff did because they were mad they lost. Sanders will do the same for Hillary. Differences aside, the Dems are united in the belief that Republicans do not belong in the Whitehouse. Our memories of the last one are not dimmed.
 
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iguanaman said:
Some of the things Republicans are saying about Trump and Cruz cannot be taken back. I doubt many who made them will "rally" behind either one. You can't say a candidate will spell the end of the Republican party and turn around and just say "never mind".
Hillary endorsed Obama soon after she dropped out and she was not responsible for what some of her staff did because they were mad they lost. Sanders will do the same for Hillary. Differences aside, the Dems are united in the belief that Republicans do not belong in the Whitehouse. Our memories of the last one are not dimmed.
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Conservatives said they are against Obama-care, worried that he would try to infringe on the 2nd amendment, and many other things. But yet they voted for someone who came out with the predecessor to Obama-care, signed this nation's first assault weapons ban at the state level, appointed liberal judges at the state level and many other things they claimed to despise. At the end of the many many conservatives are republicans first and conservatives 2nd. Although I suppose that is true about many liberal democrats as well.Although they would have the sense to weed out any conservative democrat candidates if such a thing still existed today. But if hypothetically one did make it to the national election the die hard democrats who want their party to win no matter would support that conservative democrat.
 
beefheart said:
He is a talk radio host, they don't have real opinions, they just follow what is best for ratings.
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Would you say Trump would garner a lot of popular vote for president?
 
jamesrage said:
That is true. Its how people who espoused conservative beliefs turned around and voted for a guy who does not. Mitt Romney did a bunch of things they claimed to despise, but yet supported him.
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After the first few GOP conservative state primaries/caucuses for president, usually a majority of conservative GOP presidential hopefuls get out due to a lack of public support.

Some conservatives throw support towards a GOP presidential candidate not because they agree with everything they espouse but because they have a better chance of winning the GOP presidential nomination (or the White House).

If it's inevitable that a 'non-conservative' will win the presidential nomination in the GOP, will conservatives like, for example, George Will and Glenn Beck back the candidate or will they look to a third party candidate?
 
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cabse5 said:
Would you say Trump would garner a lot of popular vote for president?
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...among Savage listeners who are mainly conservative? I see this as more of a fight among conservatives over Donald Trump than a fight between conservatives and Donald Trump.
 
cabse5 said:
After the first few GOP conservative state primaries/caucuses for president, usually a majority of conservative GOP presidential hopefuls get out due to a lack of public support.

Some conservatives throw support towards a GOP presidential candidate not because they agree with everything they espouse but because they have a better chance of winning the GOP presidential nomination (or the White House).

If it's inevitable that a 'non-conservative' will win the presidential nomination in the GOP, will conservatives like, for example, George Will and Glenn Beck back the candidate or will they look to a third party candidate?
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That is because liberals. the liberal media and RINOs are spewing the nonsense that you need a liberal republican candidate to win.It didn't work with McCain. nor did it work with Romney. So obviously running a moderate doesn't matter. Complaining about democrats and the crap they just to only turn around and vote for a candidate that did a lot of the crap they complained about makes no sense.
 
jamesrage said:
That is true. Its how people who espoused conservative beliefs turned around and voted for a guy who does not. Mitt Romney did a bunch of things they claimed to despise, but yet supported him.
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It happens on both the GOP and the Democratic side and it never fails to amaze me. Same thing happened last time Hillary and Obama were up. The National Organization of Women (NOW) were pushing hard for Hillary and against Obama. Soon as Hillary lost - they were right in Obama's lap.

I think it's just a symptom of what's wrong (one thing, anyway) with our two-party system. After a candidate loses in the Primary, they throw their support behind the "lesser of two evils."

I've got to where I don't take a whole lot of it seriously. They're all a bunch of jokers.
 
iguanaman said:
Some of the things Republicans are saying about Trump and Cruz cannot be taken back. I doubt many who made them will "rally" behind either one. You can't say a candidate will spell the end of the Republican party and turn around and just say "never mind".
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You wouldn't think so - but - it'll happen. If either Trump or Cruz gets the nod, the GOP will coalesce behind that candidate in the General. It's because no matter how much they might have wanted an establishment candidate to begin with -- they're take either of those over a democratic candidate. It's too bad our election process works this way...but it does.

Hillary endorsed Obama soon after she dropped out and she was not responsible for what some of her staff did because they were mad they lost. Sanders will do the same for Hillary. Differences aside, the Dems are united in the belief that Republicans do not belong in the Whitehouse. Our memories of the last one are not dimmed.
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The flip side is true as well. The GOP does not believe dems belong in the Oval Office and the current Administration just cements that belief. Right now, Hillary is saying that Sanders would destroy Obamacare, and he just might, but what she's not saying is that it could actually be better. Watch them on Wednesday. Hillary is fighting for her life. She will be saying many things that you would not expect a person to say about a candidate they oppose. And yet, if she loses -- she will throw her support behind Sanders. And, vice versa.

I wouldn't get so wrapped up in it. In reality, there are many, many people who advise the President and a lot of safeguards in place.
 
jamesrage said:
That is because liberals. the liberal media and RINOs are spewing the nonsense that you need a liberal republican candidate to win.It didn't work with McCain. nor did it work with Romney. So obviously running a moderate doesn't matter. Complaining about democrats and the crap they just to only turn around and vote for a candidate that did a lot of the crap they complained about makes no sense.
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The GOP needs a presidential candidate that most of the GOP can lend their support for and that can win the White House. In today's politics and governance, if you can't win the White House, you have nothing. What does The Constitution say about that?

If lately there haven't been many 'Ronald Regan-like conservative' GOP presidential candidates that've garnered enough strong support as a presidential nominee, it's because these candidates don't have strong enough support. Yes, redundant, I know. Or the conservative movement is divided as they are now. Or there isn't crossover support since conservatives although being the 'base' of the GOP are a minority of the party.

Why all those conservative presidential hopefuls flock to the beginning of the nomination process, and why, usually, after about 3 state nomination votes, most of them fall away due to lack of support.
 
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jamesrage said:
Michael Savage bashed Donald Trump, but now supports him. It amazes me how someone who bashed Donald Trump in one of his in his book the "Political Zoo" for his flip flopping, use of bankruptcy to settle his debts, "gaudy architecture","overpriced luxury homes" and "socialist economics and soft-care cultural Trotskyism" is now one of Trump's biggest cheer leaders.He is even using the line that RINOs and their supporters use which is "wouldn't you rather have someone who agrees with you 50%, 60% or 70% of the time than someone who does not agree with you"? And if he is saying things like who made you the pope of conservatism to justify his support for someone who is obviously not a conservative. I think his support for Trump is much like Ann Coulter's support for Trump. They don't give a **** that he has flip flopped dozens of times, donated to liberal candidates, supported Obama, and supported liberal causes. What they care about is the fact Trump claiming to be opposed to illegal immigration and that is the one issue they care about. Coulter said Trump can perform abortions in the white house after immigration plan.
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Hey look! Another bigot endorses a bigot (Trump)!
 
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