What Will Atheist Conservatives Do?

Skeptic Bob · Dec 20, 2015

I don't understand atheist conservatives. Atheist libertarians, sure, but not conservatives.

countryboy · Dec 20, 2015

HowardBThiname said:
Then you've missed a lot about Wright. He's evangelical, and, yes, he throws in a bit of anti-white and anti-Americanism. Many evangelical pastors are bigots, aren't they?

Here's one of his sermons:

https://newrepublic.com/article/61479/transcript-jeremiah-wright-sermon

You obviously don't know much about Black Liberation theology.

And no, "many" evangelical pastors aren't bigots. Where did you get that idea?

HowardBThiname · Dec 20, 2015

countryboy said:
You obviously don't know much about Black Liberation theology.

And no, "many" evangelical pastors aren't bigots. Where did you get that idea?

Black Liberation Theology is still evangelism, still preaches fire and brimstone.

Where did I get that evangelical pastors might be bigots? When was the last time you heard them open their arms to Islam or homosexuals?

Iamjesus · Dec 20, 2015

HowardBThiname said:
Black Liberation Theology is still evangelism, still preaches fire and brimstone.

Where did I get that evangelical pastors might be bigots? When was the last time you heard them open their arms to Islam or homosexuals?

It's part of the irony. Two groups, Blacks and Hispanics, that are cornerstones of Democratic support are among the most bigoted Americans. Much more so than white voters ...the majority of which vote Republican.

calamity · Dec 20, 2015

HowardBThiname said:
Black Liberation Theology is still evangelism, still preaches fire and brimstone.

Where did I get that evangelical pastors might be bigots? When was the last time you heard them open their arms to Islam or homosexuals?

And Jews. Don't forget the hatred Blacks have of Jews.

calamity · Dec 20, 2015

BrewerBob said:
I don't understand atheist conservatives. Atheist libertarians, sure, but not conservatives.

A true conservative believes in separation of church and state. Religious conservatives not so much. IMO, the GOP has been hijacked by the latter, which is why I have a hard time voting for them.

Bassman · Dec 20, 2015

calamity said:
A true conservative believes in separation of church and state. Religious conservatives not so much. IMO, the GOP has been hijacked by the latter, which is why I have a hard time voting for them.

Excuse me, but there is no "separation" clause in the USC. Only an Establishment clause.

calamity · Dec 20, 2015

Iamjesus said:
I don't consider religion when voting.

Obama claims to worship dead-guy-on-stick. As does every candidate. I think most running on both sides are liars and don't believe in anything. They will all make token visits to church while campaigning. Trump, Cruz, Hillary, Rubio etc. are too smart to believe in leprechauns, Jesus or the Easter bunny.

The President doesn't have much influence on religious or moral issues. Clinton was a decent Guy despite his sex with an intern...Carter was a dud despite his religious delusions. Bottom line...I don't care what they believe.

I vote on a package of issues. Religion is way down any priority list.

Sure. It really boils down to the issues. The Right makes it a point to battle sexual liberation and abortion. The Left goes after guns and free speech (hate crimes and PC campus policies). In some ways, the latter is worse because those issues are actually an attack on the constitution. But, for the most part gun bans and speech restrictions won't pass muster with SCOTUS while the closing of abortion clinics and choking off funds to planned parenthood is happening in real time.

calamity · Dec 20, 2015

Bassman said:
Excuse me, but there is no "separation" clause in the USC. Only an Establishment clause.

Which is a separation of the church from the state. Unless you are cool with Muslim or Satanic prayers in Congress, there is tacit agreement that Christianity is the established religion of the United States.

Bassman · Dec 20, 2015

calamity said:
Which is a separation of the church from the state. Unless you are cool with Muslim or Satanic prayers in Congress, there is tacit agreement that Christianity is the established religion of the United States.

Properly interpreted it means that the government cannot control the Church.

Manc Skipper · Dec 20, 2015

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They do beanies too!

Removable Mind · Dec 20, 2015

WCH said:
First of all, you have no idea how much or how little a politician's religious belief affect their decision making process. You just can't get inside their heads on that. It's a strict relationship between God and the man in question.

JFK had to verbally ensure Americans that he would not rely on his Catholic beliefs to guide his presidency but, I bet you would have voted for him....regardless.

Really? And bull****!

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' | World news | The Guardian

calamity · Dec 20, 2015

Bassman said:
Properly interpreted it means that the government cannot control the Church.

No. It means the government cannot establish a national religion.

winston53660 · Dec 20, 2015

countryboy said:
Yes, you did say that. But it is obvious your Christian hating, atheistic, leftist ideals, are the main drivers behind you not voting GOP.

Wow just wow as if you love atheist much less people to the left.

winston53660 · Dec 20, 2015

Bassman said:
Properly interpreted it means that the government cannot control the Church.

Does that include sacrificing virgins?

HowardBThiname · Dec 21, 2015

calamity said:
And Jews. Don't forget the hatred Blacks have of Jews.

Yes, that is just as irrational as the evangelicals who are bigoted against homosexuals and Muslims.

Hatred is borne of ignorance, but unfortunately, we have a lot of ignorance floating around.

tres borrachos · Dec 21, 2015

I couldn't care less what someone's religious beliefs are, or if he/she has any at all. Last I checked, people were still free to hold religious beliefs. I'm completely non-religious, but don't support or discount candidates based on their religion.

I'm voting for Rubio.

Lovebug · Dec 21, 2015

winston53660 said:
Wow just wow as if you love atheist much less people to the left.

Loving and respecting the individual, not the political leaning, religion, ethnicity or skin color is a great concept. Christians are being taught to love all. We all fall short now and then. That makes us human just like the next guy.
Nevertheless, we all should love more and judge less. It's a noble concept.

calamity · Dec 21, 2015

tres borrachos said:
I couldn't care less what someone's religious beliefs are, or if he/she has any at all. Last I checked, people were still free to hold religious beliefs. I'm completely non-religious, but don't support or discount candidates based on their religion.

I'm voting for Rubio.

I'm fine with religious people, but I worry about those who bring it up in their campaign or make odd statements about evolution or spreading Christianity to promote world peace.

WCH · Dec 21, 2015

calamity said:
He may have, but he probably didn't use it much when schtuping Marilyn Monroe.

Except for the continuous blertings of "OMG" "OMG" :3oops:

calamity · Dec 21, 2015

HowardBThiname said:
Yes, that is just as irrational as the evangelicals who are bigoted against homosexuals and Muslims.

Hatred is borne of ignorance, but unfortunately, we have a lot of ignorance floating around.

Plenty of Christians hate Jews too. Ann Coulter's comment from 2007 sums up their thoughts best.

The American Jewish Committee issued a statement declaring that it is "outraged" by Coulter's assertion on Donny Deutsch's CNBC show "The Big Idea" that Jews require "perfecting" by becoming Christians.
Jewish Groups Condemn, Boycott Ann Coulter - CBS News

WCH · Dec 21, 2015

Removable Mind said:
Really? And bull****!

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' | World news | The Guardian

You really think that's why W invaded Iraq.?

Personally, I think the Bush family are far from being Godly.

ocean515 · Dec 21, 2015

calamity said:
Why? She's pro-abortion, pro-immigration, supports amnesty and will not attempt to reverse the anchor baby amendment. That she may declare a war on guns is troubling, but less of an evil than either Sanders or Trump.

LOL

I guess " I am very much pro-business, small government, low taxes, and an aggressive military. I am law and order and not at all PC" meant nothing when you wrote it.

Sorry Calamity, but I call BS on your OP.

humbolt · Dec 21, 2015

calamity said:
Better her than the Socialist or Fascist.

You're not helping here. We need someone who can excel, and not simply a compromise among poor achievers.

gdgyva · Dec 21, 2015

calamity said:
One problem with the GOP is their lack of inclusion. You're either hard right or a RINO. Well, I may just pay you all back by voting a straight D ticket. Me and millions of others, perhaps.

yeah

big surprise

:shock:

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