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What Will Atheist Conservatives Do?

calamity said:
I may just vote for Hillary to spite all the Righties. Seeing her drive them crazy for 8 years may just be worth the price of admission.
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Thank you for revealing your true self. Not that there was any doubt. ;)
 
countryboy said:
Thank you for revealing your true self. Not that there was any doubt. ;)
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Well, when it comes to those needing to learn a hard lesson, the religious right leads the charge. I did say they were the main drivers behind me not voting GOP.
 
calamity said:
Well, when it comes to those needing to learn a hard lesson, the religious right leads the charge. I did say they were the main drivers behind me not voting GOP.
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Yes, you did say that. But it is obvious your Christian hating, atheistic, leftist ideals, are the main drivers behind you not voting GOP.
 
calamity said:
I may just vote for Hillary to spite all the Righties. Seeing her drive them crazy for 8 years may just be worth the price of admission.
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You don't know what the price of admission will be. Unfortunately, there are no refunds. When you buy that first day, you've bought 4 years of it.
 
calamity said:
Basically putting abstinence only ahead of promoting condom use was a complete disaster.

How Bush's AIDS Program is Failing Africans
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Millions of lives were saved so I fail to see how it was a "complete disaster."

Could it have been better? Sure. A "complete disaster?" Not even close. Yours is an exercise in nailing jello to a tree.

It was a bipartisan Congress that passed that initiative, by the way.

This is why it doesn't make sense to not vote just because someone is a Thumper. Misinformation like you're putting out is deceptive and it disenfranchises Americans, all of whom should exercise their right to vote.
 
calamity said:
I am somewhat curious because, first and foremost, I am non-religious. And, because of that, I refuse to vote for any Bible Thumper. After that, I could almost be a conservative, except I am in support of unlimited access to abortion from conception through week 12, no questions asked.

Fiscally and on defense, I prefer the hard right. I am very much pro-business, small government, low taxes, and an aggressive military. I am law and order and not at all PC. Lock up criminals and get babies away from druggies and other misfits who let them run around all day in a crap-filled diaper. IMO the government should pay for an abortion not for some scumbag to ruin five children while living in subsidized housing and eating junk food paid for SNAP.

On immigration, I'm pretty liberal. I'm realistic on a need for amnesty. And, letting in more is fine by me. I believe foreign adopted kids and those brought here by legal immigrants should be awarded citizenship on their 18 birthday, no questions asked. Birthright citizenship too should remain intact.

I'm pro-gun but anti-Jesus. So, I am not a fan of either the Democrats or the Republicans running for president today. Can't find one I like. The only GOP guy not hooked on Jesus is Trump. No way he gets my vote. Hillary or O'Malley are probably the closest to the things I support that I can find out there today, but both would increase the welfare state which I believe destroys lives not helps them. They would also **** with the guns.

I may just stay home on Election Day.
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if you are atheist and consertative too. doctor must check your brain function
 
calamity said:
I may just vote for Hillary to spite all the Righties. Seeing her drive them crazy for 8 years may just be worth the price of admission.
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Hopefully just a good dose of sarcasm, and thank God we vote every 4 years. ;) Hillary is, at least for me, the poster child of lip service and epitomizes the selfishness I so despise in many politicians. She is for everything you want, and against everything you don't.

calamity said:
Well, sure. But then when I look at the issues, this one bans abortion or that one restricts guns pops up.

The welfare issue too is big for me. I can't support continuing the status quo which breeds generations of people trained to major in failure. That needs to stop. But, on the flip side, I can't see me voting for the party that wants to restrict access to birth control and sex education.
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Sure, I disagree with Bernie on a lot. What you mention in bold is probably my biggest issue with the man. But he also is the most sincere of the bunch. I sense sincerity from Paul as well, but he, just like Sanders, isn't making a lot of waves.
While Hillary pretends she wants to help, and do for ....fill in the blank____________...., all she is interested in is making it before her window of opportunity closes forever. That, and sticking it to Bubba. The woman is in it for herself, and I suspect she will do anything and say anything to succeed.
 
fmw said:
I'm non religious and conservative but I don't care if people thump bibles or not. I'm surprised how intolerant non religious people are of religion. What people believe is immaterial to me. What they do is what matters to me. I stopped voting in the last cycle. It isn't because I care about political parties. It is that I've concluded that voting doesn't fix anything. Both parties continue the status quo. I want less government and the only candidate that agrees with me is Rand Paul. He won't be the Republican nominee. So I will also stay home on election day again.
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Umm, Cruz is for smaller government, the constitution and putting the government back in the bottle it escaped from.. When you see BOTH sides hating on someone, they are doing something right.
 
calamity said:
I may just vote for Hillary to spite all the Righties. Seeing her drive them crazy for 8 years may just be worth the price of admission.
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"don't cut your nose off to spite your face"
 
countryboy said:
I'm not going to read pages and pages. Why can't you simply provide quotes of republican candidates proposing a ban on abortion, as you claimed?
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You clearly missed the quote of the GOP front runner which I provided with the post you replied to.
 
countryboy said:
Yes, you did say that. But it is obvious your Christian hating, atheistic, leftist ideals, are the main drivers behind you not voting GOP.
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That atheist, pro-abortion spells Leftist to you would explain why I hope you get your ass handed to you by Hillary.
 
humbolt said:
You don't know what the price of admission will be. Unfortunately, there are no refunds. When you buy that first day, you've bought 4 years of it.
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Better her than the Socialist or Fascist.
 
ocean515 said:
This certainly throws your claims in the OP in doubt.
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Why? She's pro-abortion, pro-immigration, supports amnesty and will not attempt to reverse the anchor baby amendment. That she may declare a war on guns is troubling, but less of an evil than either Sanders or Trump.
 
HowardBThiname said:
Millions of lives were saved so I fail to see how it was a "complete disaster."

Could it have been better? Sure. A "complete disaster?" Not even close. Yours is an exercise in nailing jello to a tree.

It was a bipartisan Congress that passed that initiative, by the way.

This is why it doesn't make sense to not vote just because someone is a Thumper. Misinformation like you're putting out is deceptive and it disenfranchises Americans, all of whom should exercise their right to vote.
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The faith-based groups' war on condoms did more harm than abstinence only did good. I don't see it the way you do, obviously.
 
Lovebug said:
Hopefully just a good dose of sarcasm, and thank God we vote every 4 years. ;) Hillary is, at least for me, the poster child of lip service and epitomizes the selfishness I so despise in many politicians. She is for everything you want, and against everything you don't.


Sure, I disagree with Bernie on a lot. What you mention in bold is probably my biggest issue with the man. But he also is the most sincere of the bunch. I sense sincerity from Paul as well, but he, just like Sanders, isn't making a lot of waves.
While Hillary pretends she wants to help, and do for ....fill in the blank____________...., all she is interested in is making it before her window of opportunity closes forever. That, and sticking it to Bubba. The woman is in it for herself, and I suspect she will do anything and say anything to succeed.
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I agree, which is why any vote for Hillary would be just to spite the religious Right.
 
Gringo allstar said:
Umm, Cruz is for smaller government, the constitution and putting the government back in the bottle it escaped from.. When you see BOTH sides hating on someone, they are doing something right.
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I agree with that. Unfortunately neither he nor Paul have actually tried to do anything about it. Easy to complain. Hard to get it done.
 
fmw said:
I agree with that. Unfortunately neither he nor Paul have actually tried to do anything about it. Easy to complain. Hard to get it done.
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Yes, when one is a senator.. But being Prez puts a little more weight behind ones idea's.
 
calamity said:
The faith-based groups' war on condoms did more harm than abstinence only did good. I don't see it the way you do, obviously.
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I get your point - it's just not something worth getting all bent out of shape over. Millions of lives were saved. That's the thing about projects like that - people always have their own ideas and someone gets bent out of shape. I've served on a few local government boards and I've seen the same thing over and over. No one agrees 100%, and, usually, there are detractors as well. It's just life.

As far as the AIDS help, however, millions received life-saving treatment so I don't think anyone should be second-guessing it. It was a success, but, sure, it could have been better. What project do you know of that can't be better?

At any rate - GWB did not try and pass any legislation banning abortion, nor did he try to evangelize the country. He simply didn't have that kind of power.

A lot of people came down on Obama for sitting on the front pew for YEARS as Rev Wright preached hell fire and brimstone, but, again, it didn't really affect his ability to be the President.
 
calamity said:
I agree, which is why any vote for Hillary would be just to spite the religious Right.
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Except in your case, it would be birds of a feather. ;) Do you really think you're fooling anyone? :lamo
 
HowardBThiname said:
I get your point - it's just not something worth getting all bent out of shape over. Millions of lives were saved. That's the thing about projects like that - people always have their own ideas and someone gets bent out of shape. I've served on a few local government boards and I've seen the same thing over and over. No one agrees 100%, and, usually, there are detractors as well. It's just life.

As far as the AIDS help, however, millions received life-saving treatment so I don't think anyone should be second-guessing it. It was a success, but, sure, it could have been better. What project do you know of that can't be better?

At any rate - GWB did not try and pass any legislation banning abortion, nor did he try to evangelize the country. He simply didn't have that kind of power.

A lot of people came down on Obama for sitting on the front pew for YEARS as Rev Wright preached hell fire and brimstone, but, again, it didn't really affect his ability to be the President.
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Where did you get that idea about Wright? The only thing I have seen him preach is anti-Americanism.
 
countryboy said:
Except in your case, it would be birds of a feather. ;) Do you really think you're fooling anyone? :lamo
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One problem with the GOP is their lack of inclusion. You're either hard right or a RINO. Well, I may just pay you all back by voting a straight D ticket. Me and millions of others, perhaps.
 
I don't consider religion when voting.

Obama claims to worship dead-guy-on-stick. As does every candidate. I think most running on both sides are liars and don't believe in anything. They will all make token visits to church while campaigning. Trump, Cruz, Hillary, Rubio etc. are too smart to believe in leprechauns, Jesus or the Easter bunny.

The President doesn't have much influence on religious or moral issues. Clinton was a decent Guy despite his sex with an intern...Carter was a dud despite his religious delusions. Bottom line...I don't care what they believe.

I vote on a package of issues. Religion is way down any priority list.
 
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