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The Perfect Day

Conservative said:
Well at least you read the entire article but ignored the main points which were the first 8 items all of which make more sense than the status quo or anything else you have stated
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Again, the chain email is not substantive at all... Neither is anything you have said. All you have said is something about liberals being socialists and vice versa, accused me of not understanding the current political status quo...
 
Conservative said:
Right, returning power to the people and reverting to the vision the Founders had for this country is the same, exactly the same as Nazism? Wow, and I mean WOW
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This is "returning to the vision of the Founders"? "bio-encrypted Social Security ID’s"? Throwing people in jail or psych wards because you disagree with them is the "vision of the founders"? "Windows 12"? Suspects added to a "search list" because they are suspects of supposed terrorist activity is the "vision of the founders"? "cholesterol and fat free pepperoni" is the "vision of the founders"? The ****?
 
"Christianity has finally become the faith of most Americans again"

Well Christianity is still the "faith" of most Americans... What a stupid ****ing claim to say otherwise. But then again its a chain email...


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Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics | Pew Research Center
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
The problem with today's government is that it is corrupted by the idea that the government can only do evil or incompetent acts.

There has to be a return to the idea that the government can act to benefit and improve the lives of the people.

Part of the problem is that people no longer see participation in politics as a civic duty.
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No, actually the problem today is that the results don't match the spending and actions. We have three basic governments, federal, state, and local. People like you are looking to the big central govt. to do what your state and local governments should be doing. That couldn't be further from what our Founders created. it basically is a way of shirking your responsibility and claiming that look I really care. All the expenses of the poor are truly and eventually bourn by the states and local communities, not the federal govt. yet when a liberal cannot get their ideas implemented with that local government closest to them they go to the courts.

Forcing Neighbor helping neighbor isn't the role of the Federal Govt. other than to provide the incentive to do so. Taking from someone to provide for the common good as Hillary suggests also isn't the role of a particular individual but rather society.
 
calamity said:
You mean like when Blacks were 3/5 of a person?



xen·o·pho·bi·a
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intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.
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Keep making that asinine statement without knowing the history behind it. Please take a history course
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Again, the chain email is not substantive at all... Neither is anything you have said. All you have said is something about liberals being socialists and vice versa, accused me of not understanding the current political status quo...
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Then you tell me the difference as I don't see a dime's worth of difference because both put too much faith in the Federal govt. This country was built on equal opportunity but liberals and socialists want equal outcome
 
Conservative said:
Conservatives can always dream but then again wouldn't it be a perfect Day??

https://geeezblog.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/the-perfect-day/





And
this myfriends constitutes THE PERFECT DAY!!!!!!
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Dude, I am much easier to please, I think my perfect day would involve cookies, sex, and lots of relaxation, a completely clean house, possibly ending with my kid's report cards being straight As.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
"Christianity has finally become the faith of most Americans again"

Well Christianity is still the "faith" of most Americans... What a stupid ****ing claim to say otherwise. But then again its a chain email...


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Religion in America: U.S. Religious Data, Demographics and Statistics | Pew Research Center
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So ignore the chain email and tell us what percentage of the people in this country believe in God? Isn't that a majority?

What you seem to believe in is a massive central govt. being your God
 
Conservative said:
No, actually the problem today is that the results don't match the spending and actions. We have three basic governments, federal, state, and local. People like you are looking to the big central govt. to do what your state and local governments should be doing. That couldn't be further from what our Founders created. it basically is a way of shirking your responsibility and claiming that look I really care. All the expenses of the poor are truly and eventually bourn by the states and local communities, not the federal govt. yet when a liberal cannot get their ideas implemented with that local government closest to them they go to the courts.

Forcing Neighbor helping neighbor isn't the role of the Federal Govt. other than to provide the incentive to do so. Taking from someone to provide for the common good as Hillary suggests also isn't the role of a particular individual but rather society.
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That pesky federal government. Having all nation's railways be the same gauge sure is annoying.
 
calamity said:
That pesky federal government. Having all nation's railways be the same gauge sure is annoying.
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LOL, yep, it takes a 4 trillion dollar federal govt. to provide for the railways which by the way you have no idea how they are funded, just like you have no idea what funds our roads and bridges
 
Conservative said:
Then you tell me the difference as I don't see a dime's worth of difference because both put too much faith in the Federal govt.
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For starters. One is a socialist. One is a liberal. American liberalism is in favor of mixed market economy/keynesianism.. Socialism is in favor of, socialism...

This country was built on equal opportunity but liberals and socialists want equal outcome
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Nope no they dont.

Conservative said:
So ignore the chain email and tell us what percentage of the people in this country believe in God? Isn't that a majority?
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Yes. Your chain email claimed Christians were currently not the majority of Americans, and that whoever wrote the piece of **** email was dreaming when they became the majority again... They never left the majority...


What you seem to believe in is a massive central govt. being your God
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What in the **** are you talking about? You are the most irrational poster here and make little to no sense most of the time.
 
Conservative said:
Keep making that asinine statement without knowing the history behind it. Please take a history course
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Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons...

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3
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That clearly states that Indians do not count as people and blacks only count for 3/5 of a person. Maybe you should learn some basic reading skills.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
For starters. One is a socialist. One is a liberal. American liberalism is in favor of mixed market economy/keynesianism.. Socialism is in favor of, socialism...


Nope no they dont.


Yes. Your chain email claimed Christians were currently not the majority of Americans, and that whoever wrote the piece of **** email was dreaming when they became the majority again... They never left the majority...



What in the **** are you talking about? You are the most irrational poster here and make little to no sense most of the time.
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Your opinion noted, I don't see a dimes worth of difference because today's liberals wants the govt. to be the parent and the social worker which isn't different from the govt. controlling production

You want the govt. to provide for what you want and need, I want the individual to get help from their family and friends, not people in other states

As for Christians being the majority you wouldn't know that if you didn't look at the numbers because we have people like you who want to appease everyone else but Christians
 
calamity said:
That clearly states that Indians do not count as people and blacks only count for 3/5 of a person. Maybe you should learn some basic reading skills.
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Do you have any idea why that was put into the Constitution?
 
Conservative said:
Do you have any idea why that was put into the Constitution?
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Because the southern states wanted to be politically represented, but did not want to grant full citizenship to the African American slaves because that would undermine their economic system.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Because the southern states wanted to be politically represented, but did not want to grant full citizenship to the African American slaves because that would undermine their economic system.
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Better research again. Who do you think benefited if the slaves were treated as a whole person, the North? Since representatives are selected based upon population wouldn't the South benefit from having more representatives with a "WHOLE" person?
 
Conservative said:
Your opinion noted, I don't see a dimes worth of difference because today's liberals wants the govt. to be the parent and the social worker which isn't different from the govt. controlling production
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You are proving that one cannot argue with stupidity.

You want the govt. to provide for what you want and need, I want the individual to get help from their family and friends, not people in other states
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:lamo Oh pulease. What about the "bio-encrypted Social Security"?.

As for Christians being the majority you wouldn't know that if you didn't look at the numbers because we have people like you who want to appease everyone else but Christians
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What? What does this even mean? And no, we do know. Its called polling, statistics. Or can we not trust those now because they dont fit the message of your ****ty chain email?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
You are proving that one cannot argue with stupidity.


:lamo Oh pulease. What about the "bio-encrypted Social Security"?.


What? What does this even mean? And no, we do know. Its called polling, statistics. Or can we not trust those now because they dont fit the message of your ****ty chain email?
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Oh, I don't know, been doing it for years here in this forum. Absolutely nothing is going to change your mind or opinion
 
Conservative said:
So what you are saying is that the current Administration and its results aren't a disaster? Do you even know what those results are or a better question is why don't you and why don't you care?

You buy the headlines and ignore the substance but then again that is what makes you a liberal not an independent for independents truly do research and listen to both sides of the story. You have no interest in doing that or you would care about the 18+ trillion dollar debt that exceeds our annual GDP, you would care about the poor leadership of Obama, the stagnant economic growth, the millions and millions of unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, the lack of focus on foreign affairs and the burning world around us.

I truly understand liberals who love Hillary and statements like this
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Don't speak for me. Me questioning "your perfect day" has no bearing on the current Administration. And your characterization of Liberals and Independents alike is beyond laughable, especially when you consider the means and who all is responsible for how we got to $18 Trillion in debt well above 100% of GDP. It is beyond asinine and absent of all reality to place that blame squarely and solely on your political opposition. And you should know that, if you ever objectively look at deficits and debt over both who controls the White House and Congress going back decades now.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
The 3/5ths compromise was about how political representation in the house would be based on population.

The controversy was the opposition to counting slaves as part of the population because they were not citizens.
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The compromise was made by a Representative of Pa and Conn. neither southern states and actually cut the number of representatives would have had if the slaves were counted as whole people. The North benefited and it has nothing to do with the South or the perceived racism there and now.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Don't speak for me. Me questioning "your perfect day" has no bearing on the current Administration. And your characterization of Liberals and Independents alike is beyond laughable, especially when you consider the means and who all is responsible for how we got to $18 Trillion in debt well above 100% of GDP. It is beyond asinine and absent of all reality to place that blame squarely and solely on your political opposition. And you should know that, if you ever objectively look at deficits and debt over both who controls the White House and Congress going back decades now.
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the current debt of 18.2 trillion dollars today was created by the 7.6 trillion added to it BY OBAMA and it never was 100% of GDP until Obama did it. Your opinion is noted and is wrong
 
Conservative said:
Conservatives can always dream but then again wouldn't it be a perfect Day??

https://geeezblog.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/the-perfect-day/





And
this myfriends constitutes THE PERFECT DAY!!!!!!
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While you're fantasizing, why not wish for a winning lottery ticket and a harem of supermodels to cater to your every whim on your private yacht?
 
molten_dragon said:
While you're fantasizing, why not wish for a winning lottery ticket and a harem of supermodels to cater to your every whim on your private yacht?
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No, it is more fun getting liberals riled up and talking about things that would actually benefit this country and reverse the cycle of dependence and liberal social engineering.
 
Conservative said:
the current debt of 18.2 trillion dollars today was created by the 7.6 trillion added to it BY OBAMA and it never was 100% of GDP until Obama did it. Your opinion is noted and is wrong
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So the addition of almost $8 Trillion is bad, but the addition of over $5 Trillion is acceptable to you? Total debt at 101.3% of GDP is bad, but Total Debt at roughly 80% of GDP is acceptable to you? Raising the debt ceiling so many times under one President is not acceptable, but under another it is?

You sure this is the argument you want to have?
 
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