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Donald Trump has gained political strength since the Paris terrorist attacks last Friday, according to most of the polls released in the aftermath.

Trump’s gains show him once again confounding Beltway wisdom, where the widespread view was that such a grave event would lead voters to look toward White House candidates who are purportedly more mature and sophisticated than the erstwhile star of “The Apprentice.”

Instead, it seems that Republican voters have found themselves drawn to Trump’s emphatic rhetoric.
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Trump rises after Paris attacks | TheHill

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Told ya ... this kind of thing ties in nicely to illegal immigration which has been his, well, Trump Card.

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Like it or not, there's no goofy equivocation with Trump. While others are running around the block 14 times and saying, "See? We're right back where we started," Trump simply suggests going in a straight line to the destination, which he's more than happy to define. Yes, the terms are completely nebulous for the most part, but hey, let's make America great again.....and bomb the living **** out of ISIS..... That alone won't make us anything in particular, but it's a refreshing departure from the "ISIS is contained if you look at it through these blackout glasses here - context is your friend" BS we hear so much.

So when Obama cries for Syrian refugees, ignoring that his policies in that region are a significant contributing factor in the existence of refugees to start with, Trump's position on illegal immigration does give him a clear lift in the eyes of many.
 
It is because there is plenty of xenophobia to tap into as a means to secure social conservative voters.

It is easy to brand people a certain way based on the actions of some of them, and while those some are still a concern warranting conversation it is not a reasonable means to exclude them all. Trump's rhetoric after the Paris attacks is honestly no different than his rhetoric on illegals from Mexico still residing here. That same "round them up" and "deportation force" rhetoric supporting voters are likely to be just as xenophobic about those from the Middle East. The danger we face is in looking at Muslims through singular thinking.

I still find it acceptable to talk about modern liberal takes on social matters (as a means to multiculturalism) and faiths that present social conservative opposition to that thinking. I still find it acceptable to talk about a religion that tends to be the furthest behind the social evolution curve, that demands education over just about anything else.

What I do not find acceptable it discarding the Constitution or spirit of this nation in a manner as to bread such xenophobia for purely political gain. We should be willing to help, we should be willing to educate those coming to this nation to our cultural understandings. Encourage their development.

Trump is rising within an ideology that stands opposed to all of that thinking, and ironically is using their own brand of social conservatism to do so.
 
Considering the choices of Americans for presidents in the past few decades, I will be surprised if Donald Trump does not make it to the White House to become the Leader of the Free World.
 
Heinrich said:
Considering the choices of Americans for presidents in the past few decades, I will be surprised if Donald Trump does not make it to the White House to become the Leader of the Free World.
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We have not been the "Free World" in a very long time, Trump's rhetoric giving him a chance at the White House is one of the most eloquent evidences we have of that fact.
 
humbolt said:
Like it or not, there's no goofy equivocation with Trump. While others are running around the block 14 times and saying, "See? We're right back where we started," Trump simply suggests going in a straight line to the destination, which he's more than happy to define. Yes, the terms are completely nebulous for the most part, but hey, let's make America great again.....and bomb the living **** out of ISIS..... That alone won't make us anything in particular, but it's a refreshing departure from the "ISIS is contained if you look at it through these blackout glasses here - context is your friend" BS we hear so much.

So when Obama cries for Syrian refugees, ignoring that his policies in that region are a significant contributing factor in the existence of refugees to start with,
Trump's position on illegal immigration does give him a clear lift in the eyes of many.
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You got it. It was pretty obvious from July til now that it's mostly what got him where he is. The rest of the field should have tapped into it. Maybe one or two realized it.
 
bubbabgone said:
You got it. It was pretty obvious from July til now that it's mostly what got him where he is.
The rest of the field should have tapped into it.
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Maybe one or two realized it.
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It's not too late for Rubio and Cruz, but the rest of 'em are starting to look like toast, including Carson. Jeb's still trying to pull a rhino out of a hat, but he's done too.
 
I'm not calling Trump a fascist because in order to be a fascist one must have fascist policies and other than "build a wall" Trump doesn't have any policies of any kind. But the things that make fascists popular among the populace are the same things that make Trump popular.
 
humbolt said:
It's not too late for Rubio and Cruz, but the rest of 'em are starting to look like toast, including Carson. Jeb's still trying to pull a rhino out of a hat, but he's done too.
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Agreed.
Time to cull the herd.
Oh man that'll be tons o' fun when it can get down to 5 or less.
Yeah, Carson just doesn't cut it. Pity. He seems like a decent fellow. You just can't "study up" on some of this stuff and expect to maintain position when the media is poised to pounce for their own reasons.
Jeb? Not going anywhere but down.
 
bubbabgone said:
Trump rises after Paris attacks | TheHill



Told ya ... this kind of thing ties in nicely to illegal immigration which has been his, well, Trump Card.
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Demagogues and liars always rise on the news of terrorism.

Donald Trump on Syrian refugees: "They send them to the Republicans" - CBS News

This is a lie absolutely on the scale of Hillary's sniper lie, yet I haven't seen it mentioned on this site. I think people have just become so accustomed to his lunacy that it just doesn't make much of an impact any longer.
 
humbolt said:
Like it or not, there's no goofy equivocation with Trump. While others are running around the block 14 times and saying, "See? We're right back where we started," Trump simply suggests going in a straight line to the destination, which he's more than happy to define. Yes, the terms are completely nebulous for the most part, but hey, let's make America great again.....and bomb the living **** out of ISIS..... That alone won't make us anything in particular, but it's a refreshing departure from the "ISIS is contained if you look at it through these blackout glasses here - context is your friend" BS we hear so much.

So when Obama cries for Syrian refugees, ignoring that his policies in that region are a significant contributing factor in the existence of refugees to start with, Trump's position on illegal immigration does give him a clear lift in the eyes of many.
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Trump would ban refugees.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...M9cyIyvfR3XRxtIqQ&sig2=EZyUzqLymsxl8ltcKEuJAg
 
American said:
Trump would ban refugees.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...M9cyIyvfR3XRxtIqQ&sig2=EZyUzqLymsxl8ltcKEuJAg
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I wish he could ban Obama. I think we're going to find out if the new House Speaker has any guts or not pretty soon here. In the end, the refugee debate will come down to funding whatever watered down version of the House bill the Senate can muster, no matter an Obama veto, or simply not funding the whole enchilada until some reasonable accommodation is reached. I'll reserve my mostly cynical comments until after the fact, but you can imagine what I think will happen. I hope I'm wrong.
 
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