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Vern said:
Yes Bubba, I watched it. Obviously you didn’t. And you didn’t even read my post. Senator Obama and Candidate Obama wanted a UHC system to build off of. He didn’t say he wanted a republican system to build off of. Geez Bubba, if there was ever a poster child for LIV bait it would be you. Serious question bubba, since you’re determined to hide behind a patchwork of youtube videos from 2003 to 2007, when then candidate or senator Obama was talking about transitioning away from employer based coverage, how do you reconcile that with him making it a law for employers to offer health insurance in 2010? Explain how mandating employers with more than 50 employees offer health insurance is part of the grand scheme to eliminate employer coverage. Its your video. Just so you know bubba, this a debate forum not a chat room.

Fyi, the reason your youtube video highlights the word “transition” every time he says it is because they know it will work on the conservative brain. ooooooo transition oooooo. Now you’ll need to take off your tin foil hat for this but there was no public option in Obamacare. How do we “transition” (there’s that scary word again) from a republican plan to UHC? Again bubba, this a debate forum not a chat room.

Again, President Obama “moved to the middle” and “compromised” when he accepted the republican plan of mandates. See how you lack the courage and integrity to simply state he compromised. Why does your delusional conspiracy theory as to why he compromised prevent you from admitting he compromised? Again bubba, this a debate forum not a chat room.

And fyi, my data is correct. Feel free to peruse the Obamacare forum if you want whine at those facts. Again bubba, this a debate forum not a chat room.
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Well ... now don't get mad ... I going to assume you're not just trolling around ... so if you're serious, you have got be one of DP's most naive gullible members with no capacity to actually be aware of what's going on around you ... even when it's laid out for you in the perp's own words.
 
bubbabgone said:
Well ... now don't get mad ... I going to assume you're not just trolling around ... so if you're serious, you have got be one of DP's most naive gullible members with no capacity to actually be aware of what's going on around you ... even when it's laid out for you in the perp's own words.
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see how you try to make it about me and simply repeated your narrative. see how you avoided "explaining" your theory as to how the employer mandate will "transition" (oooo, there's that scary word again) to single payer and away from employer based health care? con, they're your theories. Explain them. You deflecting from them while whining about me is typical of cons but again this a debate forum not a chat room.
 
frswriter said:
My main beef with him (probably already covered over and over again in these forums...- but I JUST joined...) - he does not work with both parties. It is HIS way or the highway. He does not have any desire to "go to the middle" - how can any president thrust Obamacare on us without ONE REPUBLICAN vote. I thought the role of all presidents is to work with both parties. He will never understand the need to be more of a moderate! And that is because he does not give a damn about what anyone else says. He is pathetic!
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You can't work with a party who is unwilling to work with you. Remember this was the party who said compromise was a bad word and they were very proud of it. Also, you can't blame Obama for that. Republicans can't even work with republicans. You had a speaker that quit and they had to practically beg Paul Ryan to take the job.
 
Vern said:
see how you try to make it about me and simply repeated your narrative. see how you avoided "explaining" your theory as to how the employer mandate will "transition" (oooo, there's that scary word again) to single payer and away from employer based health care? con, they're your theories. Explain them. You deflecting from them while whining about me is typical of cons but again this a debate forum not a chat room.
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Well, yesterday on PBS’ Nevada Week In Review, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) was asked whether his goal was to move Obamacare to a single-payer system. His answer? “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”
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Give it a read.

Forbes Welcome

So ... if you really want to debate rather than chat and need more details, although I'm sure Harry wouldn't mind either way being a kindred soul and all, here is Senator Reid's contact information in DC.

522 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington , DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-3542
Fax: 202-224-7327

Everyone else sussed it from the get-go but maybe you're still a precocious youngster (you do post like one but maybe that's just your game) who has to have it spelled out so give Harry a call.
 
bubbabgone said:
Give it a read.

Forbes Welcome

So ... if you really want to debate rather than chat and need more details, although I'm sure Harry wouldn't mind either way being a kindred soul and all, here is Senator Reid's contact information in DC.

522 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington , DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-3542
Fax: 202-224-7327

Everyone else sussed it from the get-go but maybe you're still a precocious youngster (you do post like one but maybe that's just your game) who has to have it spelled out so give Harry a call.
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er uh bubba, have you noticed how I don't have to post "oh yea, watch this" or "oh yea, read this". I make clear straightforward statements so you know exactly what my point is. I watched your silly video and informed you I didnt see what you saw and asked you to explain a curious quandary between what you've chosen to believe and reality. And what did I get, "oh yea, read this". Well I got that after you deflected with "oh yea, watch it again".

And I see you still lack the courage to simply state that "yes President Obama moved to the middle and compromised with republican mandates" You can cling to the delusional conspiracy as to why he compromised, just admit he compromised. Oh and don't forget, I'm still waiting for you to explain your theory as to how the employer mandate will "transition" (oooo, there's that scary word again) to single payer and away from employer based health care?

again con, they're your theories. Explain them. Again, this is a debate forum not a chat room.
 
Vern said:
er uh bubba, have you noticed how I don't have to post "oh yea, watch this" or "oh yea, read this". I make clear straightforward statements so you know exactly what my point is. I watched your silly video and informed you I didnt see what you saw and asked you to explain a curious quandary between what you've chosen to believe and reality. And what did I get, "oh yea, read this". Well I got that after you deflected with "oh yea, watch it again".

And I see you still lack the courage to simply state that "yes President Obama moved to the middle and compromised with republican mandates" You can cling to the delusional conspiracy as to why he compromised, just admit he compromised. Oh and don't forget, I'm still waiting for you to explain your theory as to how the employer mandate will "transition" (oooo, there's that scary word again) to single payer and away from employer based health care?

again con, they're your theories. Explain them. Again, this is a debate forum not a chat room.
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heh heh
Call Harry.
I'm sure he can fill in the blanks for ya.

Didn't you used to post on Politico before they changed formats?
 
bubbabgone said:
Give it a read.

Forbes Welcome

So ... if you really want to debate rather than chat and need more details, although I'm sure Harry wouldn't mind either way being a kindred soul and all, here is Senator Reid's contact information in DC.

522 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington , DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-3542
Fax: 202-224-7327

Everyone else sussed it from the get-go but maybe you're still a precocious youngster (you do post like one but maybe that's just your game) who has to have it spelled out so give Harry a call.
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We can see that in spite of all the publicity, some people have effectively been Gruberized. It's a joy to witness.
 
humbolt said:
We can see that in spite of all the publicity, some people have effectively been Gruberized. It's a joy to witness.
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Do you think Gruber ever actually contemplated in his wildest fantasies that even after being captured on film describing, and depending on, some folk's stupidity that those same folks would still be so delusional?
I guess those folks can't stop dancing to the tune they were raised on.

 
bubbabgone said:
Do you think Gruber ever actually contemplated in his wildest fantasies that even after being captured on film describing, and depending on, some folk's stupidity that those same folks would still be so delusional?
I guess those folks can't stop dancing to the tune they were raised on.

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Ha! Gruber certainly hoped, along with all of those who placed their faith in his ability to bamboozle (Obama), that some would be so gullible. That the whole thing is based on lies is perfectly acceptable to some, and for some others to admit it would crush their leap of faith that such lies could never be so comprehensively implemented. Even that Harry admits it all will not sway them. They be believers.
 
frswriter said:
My main beef with him (probably already covered over and over again in these forums...- but I JUST joined...) - he does not work with both parties. It is HIS way or the highway. He does not have any desire to "go to the middle" - how can any president thrust Obamacare on us without ONE REPUBLICAN vote. I thought the role of all presidents is to work with both parties. He will never understand the need to be more of a moderate! And that is because he does not give a damn about what anyone else says. He is pathetic!
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Well obama is the result of our failure to perform comprehensive background checks on our candidates. I mean it's only logical to know who it is you are going to consider hiring for a job. As we now see, conservatives are getting their pasts examined with a fine-toothed comb.

But what many people fail to realize is that obama is not a democrat. He's a revolutionary, whom is using our political apparatus to further his radical agenda. And the sad thing is we would've found all this out, if the msm would've did their jobs up to par.
 
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