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Republicans Aren't Sure Who Was President on September 11, 2001

digitusmedius said:
It's about republicans so it's nonsensical by definition.
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When people post crap like this they lose validity and kind of become one of those people that everyone tends to blow off.
 
digitusmedius said:
Nice try, no ceegar. Trying to deflect this newest republidumb absurdity onto others is a pretty weak move. But if it's the only move you have I guess you had to do it. After all, the alternative is to steer completely away from this but that would mean keeping your dignity.
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Ahhh, the deflection accusation used to deflect. It didn't work.
 
fmw said:
There is a chance he might start cutting government down to size and fixing some things and that "trumps" his behavior and personality. I could live with his behavior if he would actually do what he proposes.
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I believe that sentence qualifies as a perfect expression of the "TRiUMPh [couldn't help it] of hope over experience" (with apologies to Dr. Johnson's ghost).
 
NonoBadDog said:
Ahhh, the deflection accusation used to deflect. It didn't work.
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Life must be easy for you, never allowing yourself to see the ugly facts or truths about people you consider "leaders."
 
digitusmedius said:
I believe that sentence qualifies as a perfect expression of the "TRiUMPh [couldn't help it] of hope over experience" (with apologies to Dr. Johnson's ghost).
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True. But can't think of another candidate with whom I would place the hope.
 
fmw said:
True. But can't think of another candidate with whom I would place the hope.
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So, you'll continue to put false hope into and votes for snake oil hucksters who'll promise you anything but reality and the result (if he actually managed to win) would be descent back into massive debt, failure and dog-knows what sort of worsening foreign misadventures that idiot could manage to create for us. I'll never understand why people reward failure time and time again hoping for a different outcome. Reminds me of that famous definition of insanity.
 
Beaudreaux said:
President (Clinton) during part of the time they were training here in the US.
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Bush had NINE MONTHS to do something, anything about bin Laden and al Qaeda and he did nothing. Instead, he took a couple vacations, including a 6-week vacation leading up to the attack. A vacation in which he received the August PDB memo warning of a bin Laden attack. No action was taken by Bush. He didn't care. Bush either let 9/11 happen or was so incompetent he missed all the warning signs.

Conservatives are to blame too. They held zero hearings on the threat of al Qaeda, but managed to find plenty of time to have a few hearings on their stupid Bush Tax Cuts.
 
The Penguin said:
Bush had NINE MONTHS to do something, anything about bin Laden and al Qaeda and he did nothing. Instead, he took a couple vacations, including a 6-week vacation leading up to the attack. A vacation in which he received the August PDB memo warning of a bin Laden attack. No action was taken by Bush. He didn't care. Bush either let 9/11 happen or was so incompetent he missed all the warning signs.

Conservatives are to blame too. They held zero hearings on the threat of al Qaeda, but managed to find plenty of time to have a few hearings on their stupid Bush Tax Cuts.
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There are so many clichés in this post.
 
tres borrachos said:
There are so many clichés in this post.
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Conservatives are cliches. So that's why it appears that way to you.

Bush and the Conservatives were in charge and did nothing to protect us. They either wanted 9/11 to happen so they let it, or they didn't take the threat of al Qaeda seriously. There's just no way they come out looking good here. That's why they are trying to blame everyone else. Pfft...some "personal responsibility".
 
The Penguin said:
Conservatives are cliches. So that's why it appears that way to you.

Bush and the Conservatives were in charge and did nothing to protect us. They either wanted 9/11 to happen so they let it, or they didn't take the threat of al Qaeda seriously. There's just no way they come out looking good here. That's why they are trying to blame everyone else. Pfft...some "personal responsibility".
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No, your post was a cliché. It's like you read Think Progress, saw Fahrenheit 911 a few times, and just ran with what the far left taught you.
 
tres borrachos said:
No, your post was a cliché. It's like you read Think Progress, saw Fahrenheit 911 a few times, and just ran with what the far left taught you.
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Then explain to me why Bush and the Conservatives did nothing with regard to al Qaeda in the nine months prior to 9/11.
 
digitusmedius said:
So, you'll continue to put false hope into and votes for snake oil hucksters who'll promise you anything but reality and the result (if he actually managed to win) would be descent back into massive debt, failure and dog-knows what sort of worsening foreign misadventures that idiot could manage to create for us. I'll never understand why people reward failure time and time again hoping for a different outcome. Reminds me of that famous definition of insanity.
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I don't vote. We are descending into debt currently at an alarming rate. Getting more of the same we have now would be rewarding failure.
 
The Penguin said:
Bush had NINE MONTHS to do something, anything about bin Laden and al Qaeda and he did nothing. Instead, he took a couple vacations, including a 6-week vacation leading up to the attack. A vacation in which he received the August PDB memo warning of a bin Laden attack. No action was taken by Bush. He didn't care. Bush either let 9/11 happen or was so incompetent he missed all the warning signs.

Conservatives are to blame too. They held zero hearings on the threat of al Qaeda, but managed to find plenty of time to have a few hearings on their stupid Bush Tax Cuts.
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Four questions? How old are you? And, have you read anything about that part of history that wasn't from an anti-Bush organization? Ever heard of the 9/11 Commission? And lastly, Did you know that the Democrats controlled the Senate - half of Congress?

So many inaccuracies, so little caring enough to correct you due to the amount of BS in your accusations.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Four questions? How old are you? And, have you read anything about that part of history that wasn't from an anti-Bush organization? Ever heard of the 9/11 Commission?
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Oh, you mean the Commission that Bush refused to testify to under oath, instead going into a closed room with Cheney by his side and answering questions in secret? Yeah, nothing suspicious there. You clowns have dragged Hillary in front of how many Benghazi panels to explain away something that has already been explained, yet you think Bush is somehow not complicit or at the very least indifferent to the threat of al Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks?
 
Beaudreaux said:
And lastly, Did you know that the Democrats controlled the Senate - half of Congress?
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No they didn't. It was split 50-50 until June when Jeffords became an independent. By that point, there had already been several warnings by the FBI and CIA about bin Laden that Bush either ignored because he wanted an attack to happen, or because he didn't take the threat seriously.
 
The Penguin said:
Oh, you mean the Commission that Bush refused to testify to under oath, instead going into a closed room with Cheney by his side and answering questions in secret? Yeah, nothing suspicious there. You clowns have dragged Hillary in front of how many Benghazi panels to explain away something that has already been explained, yet you think Bush is somehow not complicit or at the very least indifferent to the threat of al Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks?
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Calling people clowns is not the way to get them to respond to you.
 
fmw said:
I don't vote. We are descending into debt currently at an alarming rate. Getting more of the same we have now would be rewarding failure.
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I'll bet you didn't know that in 2000, the CBO estimated that the entire public debt would have been erased by 2006 had the revenue and spending balance that began in 1998 had been left in place. Electing DUHbya and DICK along with a republican congressional majority that year destroyed that goal completely and possibly forever.
 
digitusmedius said:
I'll bet you didn't know that in 2000, the CBO estimated that the entire public debt would have been erased by 2006 had the revenue and spending balance that began in 1998 had been left in place. Electing DUHbya and DICK along with a republican congressional majority that year destroyed that goal completely and possibly forever.
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That "balance" was due to the internet bubble. When it burst the government no longer had the same level of revenue but rather than reducing spending, It decided to grow and borrow to cover the costs. That is what government has always done regardless of the party in power with the exception of the short period between 1837 and 1839 when the U.S. had no debt.
 
fmw said:
That "balance" was due to the internet bubble. When it burst the government no longer had the same level of revenue but rather than reducing spending, It decided to grow and borrow to cover the costs. That is what government has always done regardless of the party in power with the exception of the short period between 1837 and 1839 when the U.S. had no debt.
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Can you please name me one modern, first world nation that currently has no debt?
 
fmw said:
That "balance" was due to the internet bubble. When it burst the government no longer had the same level of revenue but rather than reducing spending, It decided to grow and borrow to cover the costs. That is what government has always done regardless of the party in power with the exception of the short period between 1837 and 1839 when the U.S. had no debt.
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This is one of the things that make libertarians so much fun to poke. They just make up sh*t to fit their ideology. The bubble had either negligible or non-existent effects on the revenue surpluses that began in 1998 and continued to increase for the next 4 years, with 2001 (Clinton's last FY) being the last year we saw one of those. Bush's massive tax cuts for the rich and massive unfunded military spending all through his presidency led to the worst deficit in history for his last FY of 2009 of $1.4T. It's never been that high since and furthermore the Debt/GDP is heading back down to below 1 for the first time in 3 years. But the other thing libertarians reveal in this situation is that no matter how much they protest that they did like Bush they never fail to make excuses for his massive failures. Basically, below that thin libertarian veneer they are all really just rightwing republicans.
 
digitusmedius said:
This is one of the things that make libertarians so much fun to poke. They just make up sh*t to fit their ideology. The bubble had either negligible or non-existent effects on the revenue surpluses that began in 1998 and continued to increase for the next 4 years, with 2001 (Clinton's last FY) being the last year we saw one of those. Bush's massive tax cuts for the rich and massive unfunded military spending all through his presidency led to the worst deficit in history for his last FY of 2009 of $1.4T. It's never been that high since and furthermore the Debt/GDP is heading back down to below 1 for the first time in 3 years. But the other thing libertarians reveal in this situation is that no matter how much they protest that they did like Bush they never fail to make excuses for his massive failures. Basically, below that thin libertarian veneer they are all really just rightwing republicans.
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I certainly appreciate the misinformation. But telling me nonsense isn't much of an argument.
 
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