Could Hillary please start getting her lies straight?

ObamacareFail said:

If...and that's a big "if" Hillary gets elected, you would be miserable as well.

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I don't think so.

I would have untold amount of fun watching certain people crying as much as some of you good will.

ObamacareFail said:

I think you are frightened of the possibility that HIllary will have to run against a viable candidate rather then a RINO like Jeb Bush. You seem to be in your own way begging for the GOP to nominate Jeb Bush. What you seem oblivious to is the fact that American voters these days are suffering from dynasty fatigue. Most do not want another Bush or Clinton in the white house. That's why Jeb is at 4% and Sanders is drawing much bigger crowds then Hillary. As for Jeb being a spitting image of George W Bush, that is ignorance on your part. George W, would at least take a stand and stick to it. Jeb is more of a "go along to get along" RINO. They are both similar on the amnesty for illegal immigrants issue, however George was able to figure out when it was better to back off when the public railed against it.

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Actually I'm afraid of the off chance that Jeb could win. None of the other candidates stand a chance and besides they are not another Bush. I think you are in denial about Jeb's chances at the nomination and worse yet you will still vote for him over staying home. That's why one of your favorites won't ever get nominated, you are a sure thing. They need a candidate that will appeal to more moderate voters who are more fickle about which party they vote for.

iguanaman said:

Actually I'm afraid of the off chance that Jeb could win.

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I don't believe you. However...have a nice evening.

Jesse Booth said:

She's avoiding debates. That's not a good strategy for a politician, and there's nothing you can say to convince me that it is. At best, she's left out of the conversation. At worst, it's percieved as weakness, or bordering on admittion of guilt.

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It also make a lie out of any claim to "accountability".

If she's afraid to debate her opponents now, she's in for a real awakening should she win the nom

iguanaman said:

I think alot of us are frightened by another Bush in the Whitehouse. Jeb is a spitting image of his brother and a founding member of the neocons. What could go wrong?

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a lot meaning what nine, eleven?

Look, the left has spent the last eight years whining about the Bush administration, that better unemployment numbers, better cost of living stats, a far better economy etc., while Obama has been plagued with needless government shut downs, the most divisiveness in decades, the worst racism, race fueled riots every summer, massive under employment, strangulating policies, an unemployment scheme that made things worse; Islamic militants now control Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Afghanistan, and have stgrong holds all across North Africa as terrorists take advantage of the "friendly president".

In short, after seven years of Obama the nation is worse off than 1929...then there was no war.

What's frightening is letting a Democrat near the White House.

ObamacareFail said:

I get the impression that you are frightened of the top four in the GOP race and you are fantasizing that she will get the democrat nomination and not face a weak pushover like Jeb Bush.

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Their frightened about something. We have not seen this much using on the Republican nomination in ages. It may be that the Dem race is turning out so bad, Hilary leading a pack of 23 people.

I suspect it runs deeper, deep in their hearts they know they have ****ed it all up, Obama has pissed off too many people, and the coalition of millennials and blacks won't be there this time

Fearandloathing said:

Their frightened about something. We have not seen this much using on the Republican nomination in ages. It may be that the Dem race is turning out so bad, Hilary leading a pack of 23 people.

I suspect it runs deeper, deep in their hearts they know they have ****ed it all up, Obama has pissed off too many people, and the coalition of millennials and blacks won't be there this time

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So one might phrase this as 'the Democrats followed Obama over the cliff like Lemmings?'

Fearandloathing said:

a lot meaning what nine, eleven?

Look, the left has spent the last eight years whining about the Bush administration, that better unemployment numbers, better cost of living stats, a far better economy etc., while Obama has been plagued with needless government shut downs, the most divisiveness in decades, the worst racism, race fueled riots every summer, massive under employment, strangulating policies, an unemployment scheme that made things worse; Islamic militants now control Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Afghanistan, and have stgrong holds all across North Africa as terrorists take advantage of the "friendly president".

In short, after seven years of Obama the nation is worse off than 1929...then there was no war.

What's frightening is letting a Democrat near the White House.

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Everything Bush did turned to ****. The worst was upsetting the balance of power in the Mideast with no plan for the peace. That is saying alot considering he also presided over the worst financial crisis since 1929. Any American who thinks he is NOT better off than in 2008 is lying...or from Canada. That reminds me..How's that dollar doing? Last time I looked it was about 75 cents. No wonder you are pissed at Obama. Your currency is in the tank because your Govt. gambled heavily on oil staying at $100 a barrel. How is the price of oil Obama's fault?

iguanaman said:

Everything Bush did turned to ****. The worst was upsetting the balance of power in the Mideast with no plan for the peace. That is saying alot considering he also presided over the worst financial crisis since 1929. Any American who thinks he is NOT better off than in 2008 is lying...or from Canada. That reminds me..How's that dollar doing? Last time I looked it was about 75 cents. No wonder you are pissed at Obama. Your currency is in the tank because your Govt. gambled heavily on oil staying at $100 a barrel. How is the price of oil Obama's fault?

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And your citations for that are?

All I get from that post is that you are blinded by hate of a brand, there are serious doubts you even know what Bush did.

And things always fall to **** when a lying gang of incompetents take over.

How many terrorists fronts did Obama inherit? Two

How many has he now? 16

MMC said:

68% of Independent voters view her as dishonest and untrustworthy, and the poll still continues to increase with more.

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Did Hillary break the law by keeping a separate e-mail system and deleting many of her e-mail letters? Did she violate State Department regulations at the time?

Those are honest questions. I do not know the answers. If anyone responds to this post, please document your assertions with credible sources.

SmartCat said:

Did Hillary break the law by keeping a separate e-mail system and deleting many of her e-mail letters? Did she violate State Department regulations at the time?

Those are honest questions. I do not know the answers. If anyone responds to this post, please document your assertions with credible sources.

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I cannot help but wonder if the "independent voters" mentioned in MMC's post feel significantly different about other candidates.

Perhaps the "independent voters" are "independent voters"...because they think most of the candidates are dishonest and untrustworthy.

Fact is...I know several people (including some folk on the Internet) who have declared that they do not like Hillary Clinton...and view her as dishonest and untrustworthy...but they will vote for her if she is the nominee...because they see the GOP candidates as more dishonest and more untrustworthy...as well as less competent.

Just sayin!

Fearandloathing said:

And your citations for that are?

All I get from that post is that you are blinded by hate of a brand, there are serious doubts you even know what Bush did.

And things always fall to **** when a lying gang of incompetents take over.

How many terrorists fronts did Obama inherit? Two

How many has he now? 16

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How many hornets just flying around a nest? How many after you hit the nest with a bat?
That is what Bush did by invading Iraq. Your comprehension of the complex forces affecting the M.E. is quite lacking...just like GW's was.

SmartCat said:

Did Hillary break the law by keeping a separate e-mail system and deleting many of her e-mail letters? Did she violate State Department regulations at the time?

Those are honest questions. I do not know the answers. If anyone responds to this post, please document your assertions with credible sources.

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18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States......snip~


Hillary Clinton.....willfully, unlawfully, concealed, removed, mutilated, etc... and that's just the first sentence.



Hillary Clinton violated government policy over emails, says judge.....


Hillary Clinton violated government policy in her use of a personal email server, a federal judge said on Thursday.

“We wouldn’t be here today if the employee had followed government policy,” judge Emmet Sullivan said.

When a Justice Department lawyer raised concerns about the government’s right to search the private email of an official, Sullivan said: “There was a violation of government policy.” “We’re not talking about a search of anyone’s random email,” he said, after Justice Department lawyers argued with the plaintiffs over how far the government could reach in records requests.....snip~

Hillary Clinton violated government policy over emails, says judge | US news | The Guardian

MMC said:

18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

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I am not a lawyer. However, are private e-mail messages considered to have been "filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States?"

SmartCat said:

I am not a lawyer. However, are private e-mail messages considered to have been "filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States?"

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Doesn't matter as soon as she admitted she deleted emails she thought were private. On a unencrypted server. That's removing and destroying away ANY record.

Moreover she deposited records she held for 5 years with the State Dept. As well as a Congressional Committee. Those are public offices, Correct?

Did you want to try and look for an out on the classified Intel as well? Or if her server was breached?

Fearandloathing said:

Their frightened about something. We have not seen this much using on the Republican nomination in ages. It may be that the Dem race is turning out so bad, Hilary leading a pack of 23 people.

I suspect it runs deeper, deep in their hearts they know they have ****ed it all up, Obama has pissed off too many people, and the coalition of millennials and blacks won't be there this time

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It does run deeper. The fact that they are not likely to get another RINO yes boy to run Hillary against is just one of their major fears. Another is how much more damage Obamacare will do to them. The anti-establishment politician uprising is yet another.

ObamacareFail said:

It does run deeper. The fact that they are not likely to get another RINO yes boy to run Hillary against is just one of their major fears. Another is how much more damage Obamacare will do to them. The anti-establishment politician uprising is yet another.

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You are absolutely correct, O.

The GOP will not run another RINO (like Trump). I think someone like Ted Cruz...or Sarah Palin...or someone like one of them will head the ticket and lead the GOP to a huge victory in October 2016.

The GOP is much too smart and cunning to do something stupid like pick a RINO. They will select someone from the very far right...a true, blue conservative...to show everyone here and around the world what makes America tick.

I'm with you all the way on this.

Frank Apisa said:

You are absolutely correct, O.

The GOP will not run another RINO (like Trump). I think someone like Ted Cruz...or Sarah Palin...or someone like one of them will head the ticket and lead the GOP to a huge victory in October 2016.

The GOP is much too smart and cunning to do something stupid like pick a RINO. They will select someone from the very far right...a true, blue conservative...to show everyone here and around the world what makes America tick.

I'm with you all the way on this.

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LOLOL!!! The GOP is so incredibly stupid right now, they couldn't even be bashed into sensibility. You're talking about the party that couldn't bring itself to admit it got snookered by the Neo-Scum. Those clowns are so entirely devoid of principle that I'm surprised you can even support them at this point. The GOP you thought you knew is gone, mister. It's been replaced by a corrupt centrist version of Democrat-lite that has zero political principle and zero spine. Your establishment GOP is represented by people like John Boehner, the crying clown who just resigned after selling out the party's interests till the election. The GOP is in complete disarray, it's so bad the base is going for an unknown outsider by a 2:1 margin. The best thing the GOP could do is fire Reince Preibus right now and bring on someone with a brain cell. (Of course they won't do that, because they're corrupt, they're every bit as corrupt as Hillary and the Democrats). Wake up, man. We need a house cleaning, and it has nothing to do with red or blue.