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Could Hillary please start getting her lies straight?

DDD said:
So having an "end justify the mean's liars" is okay as long as they are men, but should a woman compete on those grounds (though those grounds are just demonizing acts) then its "about time we told them to take a hike?"
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Are you saying Mycroft didn't have a problem with Obama's policies until now?
 
Jesse Booth said:
She's avoiding debates. That's not a good strategy for a politician, and there's nothing you can say to convince me that it is. At best, she's left out of the conversation. At worst, it's percieved as weakness, or bordering on admittion of guilt.
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For us men, yes.

For women though, it works differently. She cannot assert herself as we do for she will be portrayed as a hysterical woman with negative images that makes you perceive her as you do currently.

I think that the way that this should be cleared out is by all the men candidates cancelling each other out. With Hillary weakened Fiorona has a good chance to combat and turn this to a clash of women challenge. Then with all the anti-Hillary focus removed, and all the competing men with demonizing campaigns removed, they should fight in equal terms.
 
Jesse Booth said:
Are you saying Mycroft didn't have a problem with Obama's policies until now?
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Do not care what he had or had not with Obama till now. Obama cannot compete anymore and is thus irrelevant from the current discussion.
 
Mycroft said:
There's nothing wrong with a woman being President. Has someone said there is? Or is this your latest strawman?

There is, however, something wrong with an "ends justify the means" liar who only cares about themselves being President. We've had one of those for almost 8 years. It's about time we told those kinds of people to take a hike.
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Being a damned liar is part and parcel of being a good Marxist. This statist hag is cut from the same bolt of cloth as the limpwristed specimen who is currently disgracing the White House.
 
DDD said:
Whats wrong with a woman being President? Why cannot you leave her alone and quit attempting to demonize her with these various conspiracy theories?

I say: All the US' women should also unite and support her!
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Do you consider her gender to be more important than her policies in regards to whether or not you should vote for her?
 
Jesse Booth said:
Do you consider her gender to be more important than her policies in regards to whether or not you should vote for her?
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Which policies of her are wrong should you remove all the demonizing campaign made towards her till now?
 
DDD said:
Whats wrong with a woman being President?
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Not a damn thing and that is a problem for her. It isn't about her being a woman.

Why cannot you leave her alone and quit attempting to demonize her with these various conspiracy theories?
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It is a conspiracy theory that there is a conspiracy theory.

I say: All the US' women should also unite and support her!
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And why would that be? That is a little sexist, don't you think? Screw credentials and honesty, do it for the "war on women". That is insulting to women to suggest they will fall for that type pf hyperbole.
 
Frank Apisa said:
According to you guys, she is the worst candidate in history.

But...if she wins...

...it will finally show the bizarre far right just how out of touch they are with America.


And i am pretty sure she will be nominated...and she will win.
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I am pretty sure she won't. The one with the biggest font size wins I guess.
 
DDD said:
For us men, yes.

For women though, it works differently. She cannot assert herself as we do for she will be portrayed as a hysterical woman with negative images that makes you perceive her as you do currently.

I think that the way that this should be cleared out is by all the men candidates cancelling each other out. With Hillary weakened Fiorona has a good chance to combat and turn this to a clash of women challenge. Then with all the anti-Hillary focus removed, and all the competing men with demonizing campaigns removed, they should fight in equal terms.
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I perceive her as a disconnected, disinterested politician who doesn't actually care for Americans in any way, shape, or form. If she was actually interested in fixing the problems facing the nation, she would speak up about them instead of hiding from the press.
 
Hillary will be toast by her own party's hand. It will be fun to watch.
 
DDD said:
Do not care what he had or had not with Obama till now. Obama cannot compete anymore and is thus irrelevant from the current discussion.
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His point was that Obama and Hillary have very similar methods of leading, and that we do not need any more of that method. That seems completely relevant to me.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Not a damn thing and that is a problem for her. It isn't about her being a woman.

It is a conspiracy theory that there is a conspiracy theory.

And why would that be? That is a little sexist, don't you think? Screw credentials and honesty, do it for the "war on women". That is insulting to women to suggest they will fall for that type pf hyperbole.
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NonoBadDog said:
Hillary will be toast by her own party's hand. It will be fun to watch.
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I am sure that men like you would enjoy watching how a woman seeking out a top political career fails. This is exactly the problem with Hillary being POTUS. Every men out there wants to see her fail!
 
Hmmmm...a vast right wing conspiracy again you say?

Look...heres the thing. OF COURSE the GOP was opposed to Bill. That had NOTHING to do with the fact he was a lying cheating misogynist that pled no contest to sexual harassment, is accused of sexual assault and rape, suboerned perjury and commited the crime of tampering with a witness and was himself guilty of committing perjury under oath while on trial not for blow jobs and poking Monica Lewinsky with cigars but for sexually harassing a campaign staffer. Blame all the right wingers you want...Bill is still guilty.

Fast forward...

True...not many republicans like Hillary. But lets be honest, there are more than a few liberals that wish she would fall in a hole. Regardless...no one else is to blame for her constant steady stream of lies SHE has told. She has a credibility problem because she has lied for years and has been caught in them.
 
Jesse Booth said:
His point was that Obama and Hillary have very similar methods of leading, and that we do not need any more of that method. That seems completely relevant to me.
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We will see how she leads while being POTUS.

Jesse Booth said:
I disagree with her on how to deal with the economy, foreign policy, and what we should do about the national debt.
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Elaborate please.

Jesse Booth said:
I perceive her as a disconnected, disinterested politician who doesn't actually care for Americans in any way, shape, or form. If she was actually interested in fixing the problems facing the nation, she would speak up about them instead of hiding from the press.
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All in due time Jesse,

Wait till the competition of men clears out of the way.
 
VanceMack said:
Hmmmm...a vast right wing conspiracy again you say?

Look...heres the thing. OF COURSE the GOP was opposed to Bill. That had NOTHING to do with the fact he was a lying cheating misogynist that pled no contest to sexual harassment, is accused of sexual assault and rape, suboerned perjury and commited the crime of tampering with a witness and was himself guilty of committing perjury under oath while on trial not for blow jobs and poking Monica Lewinsky with cigars but for sexually harassing a campaign staffer. Blame all the right wingers you want...Bill is still guilty.

Fast forward...

True...not many republicans like Hillary. But lets be honest, there are more than a few liberals that wish she would fall in a hole. Regardless...no one else is to blame for her constant steady stream of lies SHE has told. She has a credibility problem because she has lied for years and has been caught in them.
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What?

For not disclosing personal exchanges with a general?
 
DDD said:
So having an "end justify the mean's liars" is okay as long as they are men, but should a woman compete on those grounds (though those grounds are just demonizing acts) then its "about time we told them to take a hike?"
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Maybe I should have been more clear...the one we've had for almost 8 years is not a woman. It's Obama.

Give it up, dude. Nobody is making this about men vs women...except you.
 
DDD said:
Expecting a truther politician maybe?
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I don't know what a "truther politician" is. Please define the term.
 
DDD said:
All the relevant to the issue information was sent, the rest was irrelevant and personal
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How do you know this? I know this is what she keeps saying, but then we keep finding out she lied.
 
Mycroft said:
Weak reply. LOL!!

Just saying, "No cigar", doesn't mean a thing if you don't back it up with reasoning.
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Yeah.

I can tell you really consider it "weak."

Anyway...we will see who wins in a little over a year.
 
DDD said:
What?

For not disclosing personal exchanges with a general?
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:lamo

As soon as you can be serious about this whole email thing, let me know we can have a discussion.
 
Mycroft said:
Give it up, dude. Nobody is making this about men vs women...except you.
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Yet the demonization of Hillary never seizes.

Mycroft said:
How do you know this? I know this is what she keeps saying, but then we keep finding out she lied.
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That is not what she said, that is what the references from MMC say.

Mycroft said:
I don't know what a "truther politician" is. Please define the term.
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I meant a naive, truth telling, transparent politician. What I was getting at is that politicians lie.
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

As soon as you can be serious about this whole email thing, let me know we can have a discussion.
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She did provided all other e-mails, except the personal ones she had with the general. Those are irrelevant.

If she were a man then a more arrogant approach such as "Yes, I did not provided those personal e-mails with the general, and I do not intend to neither. You can each your heart out or go **** yourselves, and I would not care either way!" would do. But being a woman most of her voice is blocked while she must keep a more subtle elegant image so as to avoid the media portrayal of her as a hysterical incompetent leader (kinda what is already being done).
 
DDD said:
Yet the demonization of Hillary never seizes.
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I don't even know what this sentence means. Is English your second language?

That is not what she said, that is what the references from MMC say.
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Oh...that's what she has said...but then we keep finding more stuff.

I meant a naive, truth telling, transparent politician. What I was getting at is that politicians lie.
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Ahhh...you say that like honesty is a bad thing. :roll:

Well, just because politicians lie it doesn't mean we have to accept politicians who lie. In fact, politicians who lie should be punished by the voters. And it appears that's what is happening to Hillary.
 
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Mycroft said:
I don't even know what this sentence means. Is English your second language?
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Demonize | Define Demonize at Dictionary.com

Mycroft said:
Oh...that's what she has said...but then we keep finding more stuff.
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She did well not to provide the private e-mail messages that she had with the general for they were irrelevant.

Mycroft said:
Ahhh...you say that like honesty is a bad thing. :roll:

Well, just because politicians lie it doesn't mean we have to accept politicians who lie. In fact, politicians who lie should be punished by the voters. And it appears that's what is happening to Hillary.
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Feel free to not accept non-lying politicians and hope to "punish" politicians that do so. Meanwhile these people have a job to do and will continue lying whether one likes it or not.
 
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