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Axelrod: Clinton ‘Owned’ TPP Back In 2012......

MMC said:
Then there was their identity politics. Which has reduced the Demos to controlling fully only 7 states. Total of 14 with some sort of control in government. Their lowest levels since the Civil War.
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Yes, Republicans have done well in Mid term elections.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
You still haven't gotten the point, it is grammar, not phonics.

I see you cannot format quotations on vbulletin, cannot distinguish support while SoS from opposition while candidate, cannot understand that trade agreement authority has been granted to every POTUS since 1974.....in other words, your arguments are a complete ball of confusion from a content and format standpoint.

But then, what else is new?
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No you didn't get the point.....you act and felt like I cared or was suppose to. I didn't!

Not at all.....you tried to do that supposin' and assumin' stuff. But didn't get it Right. Nor were you even close. Trying to deflect to Bush and think I supported Bush. Which is why you now deflect and go tangential about how every president has done the same as BO peep.

It was made very clear to you. Despite your confusions, which surely comes from that supposin' and assumin' stuff you do. I stated I don't support expanding the Powers of the office of the Presidency. Republican or Democrat over trade.

Let Congress do the work they are suppose to. Take time off from the Camera and Vacations.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Southern conservatives still hold sway over large swaths of southern US states, is that supposed to be an indication of the correctness of policy? Or is might always right in your ball of confusion?
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Well Progressives and Liberals still Hold sway over the 3 Major Cities in this nation......wherein for 50 years or more they have proved failures as adequate managers. When will they step out of the way and let real leaders.....step in to handle what they can't.
 
MMC said:
No you didn't get the point.....you act and felt like I cared or was suppose to. I didn't!
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I know you don't care about English grammar, that is VERY self evident!

Not at all.....you tried to do that supposin' and assumin' stuff. But didn't get it Right. Nor were you even close. Trying to deflect to Bush and think I supported Bush. Which is why you now deflect and go tangential about how every president has done the same as BO peep.
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Bush? When did I talk about Bush, when was he even mentioned? The comment was about trade negotiation authority!, what derpiness!

It was made very clear to you. Despite your confusions, which surely comes from that supposin' and assumin' stuff you do. I stated I don't support expanding the Powers of the office of the Presidency. Republican or Democrat over trade.
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That wasn't the question, you distracted, diverted from the point THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, a position on a trade deal, namely the TPP. You don't get to sidestep by going all fundamental on me. If you don't want to discuss the TPP...DON'T BRING IT UP.

DERP!!!!

Let Congress do the work they are suppose to. Take time off from the Camera and Vacations.
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more derpiness! No one is stopping Congress from deciding what they want.

FFS!
 
MMC said:
Well Progressives and Liberals still Hold sway over the 3 Major Cities in this nation......wherein for 50 years or more they have proved failures as adequate managers. When will they step out of the way and let real leaders.....step in to handle what they can't.
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Now you are trying to move the goal post of the topic you brought up from the morality of state policy.....to some vague "managing" of cities (?!).

In debate circles, this is clearly a fail....and a derp.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Now you are trying to move the goal post of the topic you brought up from the morality of state policy.....to some vague "managing" of cities (?!).

In debate circles, this is clearly a fail....and a derp.
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Oh, you mean after you brought up some BS about Southern Conservatives. Yeah see how that happens. Maybe you shouldn't go so tangential then.

When you figure out the trade end and the significance. Then get back to me. :doh
 
MMC said:
Oh, you mean after you brought up some BS about Southern Conservatives. Yeah see how that happens. Maybe you shouldn't go so tangential then.

When you figure out the trade end and the significance. Then get back to me. :doh
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What moronic commentary! The point YOU brought up was the supposed moral superiority of conservative ideology....but suddenly, when the most obvious failing of said ideology is brought up.....well!.....lets distract with vague references to management of cities!

Accept your failings, learn from them and grow.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I know you don't care about English grammar, that is VERY self evident!
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That's because I don't change the definitions of the words. So then those alleged smart powers of yours are suppose to kick in. Really they should and it shouldn't take long. But at least give me a time span on how long I should wait.


Bush? When did I talk about Bush, when was he even mentioned? The comment was about trade negotiation authority!, what derpiness!
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Gimmesometruth said:
Perhaps you can explain what this means to you. To what "degree" does she "own it"? Did she have a hand in writing it it, or is it more a matter of supporting early on a policy of the administration when she was a cabinet member?

er...there is a difference between "to" and "too".

But to the point, the admin is assumed to be unhappy with any opposition to the TPP. I suppose you are in favor of it, in line with Jeb! and The President.
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Tsk tsk, forgetting what you said now why wouldn't I be surprised. Especially since it was couple pages back, huh?
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That wasn't the question, you distracted, diverted from the point THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, a position on a trade deal, namely the TPP. You don't get to sidestep by going all fundamental on me. If you don't want to discuss the TPP...DON'T BRING IT UP. DERP!!!!
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Your supposin' nstuff caused that remember.....now?


more derpiness! No one is stopping Congress from deciding what they want. FFS!
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Still can't figure out about giving the Office of the Presidency a lil special privilege, I see. Expanding that power. Give it a day.....it might set in by then. Just sayin. :mrgreen:
 
Gimmesometruth said:
What moronic commentary! The point YOU brought up was the supposed moral superiority of conservative ideology....but suddenly, when the most obvious failing of said ideology is brought up.....well!.....lets distract with vague references to management of cities!

Accept your failings, learn from them and grow.
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"Say What".....the Moral Superiority of the Conservative ideology. Where do you get this stuff? You might want to avoid the Demo-Underground for a little bit of time. Just sayin :lamo

Now that was some funny ****.....worthy of an SNL skit.
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