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Clinton Drops 15 Points in Polls

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The republican smear campaign is doing what it's best at!
 
EnigmaO01 said:
The republican smear campaign is doing what it's best at!
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Yes, because being concerned about a major government official behaving as if they are above the law is all about the smear. :roll:
 
If it drops any further, she might just say never mind. Keep all the cash she's garnered and go about her merry way.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Don't believe the hype that she is invincible. Apparently another scandal will put her neck and neck with the challengers. And reporting about this is the dailykos:

Democratic Support For Hillary Clinton Drops 15 Points, Poll Shows

But for further insight take a look at RCP polls in various states. Warren has taken those 15 points from her. And in one case Biden has. RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 Presidential Polls
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I must say, this is a pleasant surprise.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Don't believe the hype that she is invincible. Apparently another scandal will put her neck and neck with the challengers. And reporting about this is the dailykos:

Democratic Support For Hillary Clinton Drops 15 Points, Poll Shows

But for further insight take a look at RCP polls in various states. Warren has taken those 15 points from her. And in one case Biden has. RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 Presidential Polls
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The GOP would like to see Clinton out of the race because they know they have no one who stands a chance against her. :roll:

Next year we'll see how this turns out.
 
shrubnose said:
The GOP would like to see Clinton out of the race because they know they have no one who stands a chance against her. :roll:

Next year we'll see how this turns out.
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A lot of things can happen in almost 2 years.
 
As someone with some leftist ideological sympathies I feel for Hillary. What happened to her with the affairs wasn't her fault. She did what she was supposed to do within the public system to get where she is and Bill stuck a knife in her at every turn. What's going to be done to her in the coming campaign in respect to Bill and his affairs is sad for her to say the least. She's going to suffer for it more now than she has in her entire life and she has Bill to thank for that. The social conservatives (not just on the right) will come for her over it with daggers drawn. If you think it was bad for Bill just wait for what's to come. It'll be a lot worse. Remember in social conservatives eyes it is the woman who tolerates it that is seen as guilty just as much if not more than the husband.


-She's going to have a lot of people on the left attacking her because they feel she's a "fatally doomed" candidate over the affairs. (and she may be, hence the choosing of Obama over her by the Left)

-Many ideologues (on the right & left) feel that the first Woman president shouldn't be an "affair-ridden" public career woman but instead a "Fresh Face". This is going to deeply hurt her chances. Hillary Clinton is basically the polar opposite of "A fresh face" for the first female president. She comes with a ton of baggage.
 
Ryan5 said:
As someone with some leftist ideological sympathies I feel for Hillary. What happened to her with the affairs wasn't her fault. She did what she was supposed to do within the public system to get where she is and Bill stuck a knife in her at every turn. What's going to be done to her in the coming campaign in respect to Bill and his affairs is sad for her to say the least. She's going to suffer for it more now than she has in her entire life and she has Bill to thank for that. The social conservatives (not just on the right) will come for her over it with daggers drawn. If you think it was bad for Bill just wait for what's to come. It'll be a lot worse. Remember in social conservatives eyes it is the woman who tolerates it that is seen as guilty just as much if not more than the husband.


-She's going to have a lot of people on the left attacking her because they feel she's a "fatally doomed" candidate over the affairs. (and she may be, hence the choosing of Obama over her by the Left)

-Many ideologues (on the right & left) feel that the first Woman president shouldn't be an "affair-ridden" public career woman but instead a "Fresh Face". This is going to deeply hurt her chances. Hillary Clinton is basically the polar opposite of "A fresh face" for the first female president. She comes with a ton of baggage.
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Don''t forget she's also an incompetent manager.
 
A 15 point drop?

It's nice to hear some good news now and again.

Can you imagine her and Biden in the cage match going at each other, given both of their history, under Obummer? That end-game could be messy!
 
EnigmaO01 said:
The republican smear campaign is doing what it's best at!
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You appear to be confusing facts and their being made known with smearing. It's a fact, for example, that Clinton wiped her server clean. I'm not saying that they will, but anybody who has been thinking about her candidacy for the Presidency should be thinking about this.
 
reinoe said:
Don''t forget she's also an incompetent manager.
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Oh I don't agree with that. For her to have survived the sexually rampaging idiocies of Bill Clinton all these years and to have still usurped her detractors by staying alive politically indicates she is a good manager or capable enough. However that may actually hurt her more than help her. America isn't secular Europe where a woman is given more moral slack politically. Americans are extremely morally judgmental and especially so in respect to any woman seeking political office. Hillary has extremely high negatives in Suburban and Rural America over her "Marital Arrangement" with Bill Clinton over the years. She will rely near completely on the single, unmarried degreed woman in Urban America in order to win and that's a very tall order considering her extreme negatives in the majority of America (Suburbia).
 
Ryan5 said:
As someone with some leftist ideological sympathies I feel for Hillary. What happened to her with the affairs wasn't her fault. She did what she was supposed to do within the public system to get where she is and Bill stuck a knife in her at every turn. What's going to be done to her in the coming campaign in respect to Bill and his affairs is sad for her to say the least. She's going to suffer for it more now than she has in her entire life and she has Bill to thank for that. The social conservatives (not just on the right) will come for her over it with daggers drawn. If you think it was bad for Bill just wait for what's to come. It'll be a lot worse. Remember in social conservatives eyes it is the woman who tolerates it that is seen as guilty just as much if not more than the husband.


-She's going to have a lot of people on the left attacking her because they feel she's a "fatally doomed" candidate over the affairs. (and she may be, hence the choosing of Obama over her by the Left)

-Many ideologues (on the right & left) feel that the first Woman president shouldn't be an "affair-ridden" public career woman but instead a "Fresh Face". This is going to deeply hurt her chances. Hillary Clinton is basically the polar opposite of "A fresh face" for the first female president. She comes with a ton of baggage.
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I call BS on this.

If anything is going to take her down, it will be her own actions that do it.

I don't think anybody is going to be talking about the affairs as they are old news, however they will be talking about how she skewered each and every woman who had the gall to accuse her husband of acting inappropriately.
 
If democrats and liberals are being honest they HATE themselves for defending the woman and worse...taking on the role as champion. Every one of them is secretly praying she comes down with some mystery illness that will get her out of the race and allow someone else to step in.
 
shrubnose said:
Like Hillary Clinton getting elected president of the USA, eh?
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Sure it's one possibility. There are infinite others though... curious why you'd want to linger on just one being a centrist and all.
 
Mason66 said:
I don't think anybody is going to be talking about the affairs as they are old news, however they will be talking about how she skewered each and every woman who had the gall to accuse her husband of acting inappropriately.
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That is "Talking about the affairs" lol..

:doh
 
The one issue that's not her fault is Bills involvement with the pedophile island...and that will be easy for her to fix. All she has to do is publicly separate herself from him...say something about how she has always been "standing by her man" but this being too much, even for her. Bill goes down in flames and she rises above it.

Pretty much all the other problems Hillary is having are due to her own actions coming back and biting her in the ass. My guess is that she will end up not running for President.
 
Ockham said:
Sure it's one possibility. There are infinite others though... curious why you'd want to linger on just one being a centrist and all.
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Because right now it seems like the most likely outcome.
 
Ryan5 said:
That is "Talking about the affairs" lol..

:doh
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No it isn't. The affairs are what Bill did, not what her reaction to those were.

It is a very different thing.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Tell that to Obama. He beat her last time and everyone was acting like he didn't stand a chance at first.
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He just ran a better campaign. Did the same against Romney. Actually Romney made it easy.
 
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